SunBroDave
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ENB is DX9 only. Fortunately ReShade is not.
Witcher 3 downgrade arguments in here and nowhere else
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texhnolyze
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If you play on PC, at least there are ways to make the color palette closer to what was shown in those original trailers:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/126903
Yep, I'll look up for ReShade configs at day one.
We can actually match 2013 lighting & visual with one.
We use ReShade instead for DX11.
GTA V ReShade configs are amazing.
Allnamestakenlol
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Well, I think I've reached the 'acceptance' phase. It happened a lot faster than I expected. I blame it on being old and easily tired. 
Now I just want the game (in whatever form). I'm now going to retreat to the comfort of my chair and pipe, and patiently await next week.
Now I just want the game (in whatever form). I'm now going to retreat to the comfort of my chair and pipe, and patiently await next week.Cave Johnson
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Isn't this how the Witcher 2 was operated? But go on, tell me otherwise why it isn't. This is a typical example of a mid-tier studio expanding to AAA and failing to see the demand required to push through.
The general consumer? No. They just watch a few trailers, maybe see a review, and go buy the game.
The thing is, we the gamers are beating developers and publishers over the head for more information all the time. I run really close to the Zelda fan base and I know this all too well. New game came out? Great! We're already asking for information about the new one as soon as we can, and asking when we can see it. This is what people do. We want our cake and to eat it too.
So developers will push things out fast (maybe it's not them, it could be the PR department pushing for it) and we end up with something that doesn't represent the final game.
I am not saying that happened in this case or any specific case, but it is true that we are always demanding more from them as soon as possible.
icecold1983
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I did say on average, as there are certainly unflattering screens. The sharpening in particular comes across rly bad in some. I guess i should ammend my statement to specifically focus on the vgx and nvidia trailers. Those are far beyond current footage in nearly every way.
Baldwin_the_First
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Have we seen pictures of the PS4 version in the swamps location yet? I want to see if there's that much of a difference between the old build and the new.
Marketing budgets for starters. W2 on the 360 went under the radar because it wasn't well advertised. Remind me of any AAA studio that has used the methodology you suggested.
BigTnaples
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Indeed. The VGX and Nvidia trailers had all the new tech. The e32013 trailer had the old renderer intermixed with footage from the Nvidia trailer. The game looks better than it did in 90% of the debut trailer, but is missing the wow of the Nvidia scenes.
The E3 2013 build did represent actual gameplay footage - I was there when CDPR did a demonstration. Looked incredible, it was easily the best thing I saw at the show that year.
Don't think the footage was uploaded anywhere - it was like 15-20 mins of gameplay, they didn't allow video to be taken.
Angry Joe also claimed that he got to try the game out in 2013... Since he has a good relationship with the devs, I believe him. A 2013 build definitely existed.
PC footage is getting out there, so I did some comparison shots between PS4 (top) and PC (bottom).
PC was said to be running on Ultra from a 970. Framerate obviously better on PC, but I'm really not sure how this disparity is possible...
http://imgur.com/a/h7hot
PC was said to be running on Ultra from a 970. Framerate obviously better on PC, but I'm really not sure how this disparity is possible...
http://imgur.com/a/h7hot
SunBroDave
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Wassup with the color differences? Geralt is...um...Quite "orangey" in the pc version.
That is great and all. But you're not going to see much on such tiny compressed images from YT. Also, seemingly as of right now a lot of PC demos have some differentiating features turned off.
viveks86
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PC footage is getting out there, so I did some comparison shots between PS4 (top) and PC (bottom).
PC was said to be running on Ultra from a 970. Framerate obviously better on PC, but I'm really not sure how this disparity is possible...
http://imgur.com/a/h7hot
PS4 is a beast confirmed!
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In the public forum, optimization is meant to sound like behind the scenes improvement and that's exactly what it is once the heaviest marketing is going on for a game. Downgrade controversies come when the meaty front and center drops happen after the developer already made the mistake of drawing attention to their visuals way too soon to back.
m_shortpants
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PC footage is getting out there, so I did some comparison shots between PS4 (top) and PC (bottom).
PC was said to be running on Ultra from a 970. Framerate obviously better on PC, but I'm really not sure how this disparity is possible...
http://imgur.com/a/h7hot
Uhhhh the top shots look better. Are you sure you got the order right?
BigTnaples
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PC footage is getting out there, so I did some comparison shots between PS4 (top) and PC (bottom).
PC was said to be running on Ultra from a 970. Framerate obviously better on PC, but I'm really not sure how this disparity is possible...
http://imgur.com/a/h7hot
I'm on my phone but what disparity? The look oddly close if anything. Or am I missing something?
The only big difference I see from here is the bathtub texture looks better on PC and the Skin Tone looks better on PS4...
viveks86
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Geralt's hair in the first comparison is a dead giveaway. They are either not ordered correctly or the PC version is not running at ultra.
Anton Sugar
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At first, I was like: that's gotta be reversed. PC is on top, PS4 is bottom. I mean, look at the hairline and that glowing ponytail:
BUT--is the window blurrier because of a lower res PS4 texture, or better PC depth of field?
Shitty hair, great shirt texture, worse door details, worse AO (check the doorframe at the bottom of the door:
Better hair, worse shirt texture, better door details, better AO...and a different mountain layout?
The hell is going on here.
BUT--is the window blurrier because of a lower res PS4 texture, or better PC depth of field?
Shitty hair, great shirt texture, worse door details, worse AO (check the doorframe at the bottom of the door:
Better hair, worse shirt texture, better door details, better AO...and a different mountain layout?
The hell is going on here.
Zomba13
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Yeah, apart from some colour differences they look identical (minus the added bra in the PS4 version which I assume is due to the region of the copy that screen was grabbed from).
But yeah, I don't expect the PC version to look much better than the PS4 version. Higher resolution and framerate, probably better AF and AO, maybe textures at their nicest if they were compressed a bit for the PS4 version.
At this point, unless the game is a PC version first and foremost and then ported down to consoles games won't look much better on PC over their console versions. You will get higher res and higher frame rates and slight improvements, enough to see that it is better in direct comparisons but not enough to make you go "wow! next gen leap! so good!".
But yeah, I don't expect the PC version to look much better than the PS4 version. Higher resolution and framerate, probably better AF and AO, maybe textures at their nicest if they were compressed a bit for the PS4 version.
At this point, unless the game is a PC version first and foremost and then ported down to consoles games won't look much better on PC over their console versions. You will get higher res and higher frame rates and slight improvements, enough to see that it is better in direct comparisons but not enough to make you go "wow! next gen leap! so good!".
hammertomb
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Why is the ps4 version missing a bra?PC footage is getting out there, so I did some comparison shots between PS4 (top) and PC (bottom).
PC was said to be running on Ultra from a 970. Framerate obviously better on PC, but I'm really not sure how this disparity is possible...
http://imgur.com/a/h7hot
BeforeU
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Zomba13
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Most likely captured from a region where the game was censored.
viveks86
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PS4 version is probably from the middle east.
So I guess that confirms that the order is correct. The only question left is if it's really running on ultra.
PC footage is getting out there, so I did some comparison shots between PS4 (top) and PC (bottom).
PC was said to be running on Ultra from a 970. Framerate obviously better on PC, but I'm really not sure how this disparity is possible...
http://imgur.com/a/h7hot
They look sunburnt on ps4 but I can deffo see a difference between them. Hardly what I would like to see see. This is blatantly no longer a pc focused game. Not much difference on my phone and I mixed up typing on it
viveks86
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Top versions are better, no doubt. Given that the ME has been playing the PS4 version for a while and we know they have the censored version, the likelihood of it being the PS4 version is pretty high. And since the source claims that it is indeed the case, the order of the shots is probably accurate. What may not be accurate is the settings and/or build for the PC version.
Something amusing that I have just noticed. Nobody has made the comment that the reason the 360 port of W2 was so good was because the PC version wasn't as impressive technologically as people make out.
Everybody assumes as if CDPr achieved magic in 360 port, when in fact nobody actually can beat physics.
The Sword of Destiny trailer still looks sharpened as hell compared to the current footage, but features the newer color saturation. The gameplay demo from around the same time even looks like it had more AO than the current footage. It seems like the color switch happened sometime in the first half of 2014, then CDPR dropped the sharpening, though I'm not sure when. SOD trailer has it, E314 gameplay doesn't (or has it but to a lesser degree).
I'm actually starting to think we STILL haven't seen what the game truly looks like with absolutely everything cranked up, and when it is cranked up it'll look very similar to the game we saw at E3 2014.
Primethius
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Wow, that difference isn't as drastic in those shots as I was expecting... or hoping.
The hair too, not sure whats up that.
The hair too, not sure whats up that.
plasmawave
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The PC version looks like he's wearing a wig.
Cave Johnson
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Crytek (Crysis 1).
How does this stop porting from being "advertised"? 2nd, I don't really think CDPR were AAA (in the context compared to US marketing budget), they just happen to reach that mark the moment their budget escalated with the Witcher 3.
Crysis 1 was never released on consoles (warhead doesn't count).
You port it a year later. Now you need two seperate marketing campaigns. They weren't AAA until witcher 3, which is precisely my point. The marketing budget has to grow to such a degree that it becomes a lot less cost efficient to dedicate the resources in two separate campaigns while doing justice to both. The mindshare gained by being available on all modern gaming systems shouldn't be underestimated.
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flipswitch
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You have a good eye my friend, didn't realise that until you pointed that out.
I think we'll notice the differences when we're outdoors in the game world, things should be easier to spot. The game releases shortly.
I just hope for PC users we don't get a dodgy version, riddled with bugs and crashes.
Imagine what would happen if there's very little differennce between console and PC on ultra. I'm not expecting a brand new game but I hope it's more than some basic gfx toggles.
Weird. I must have missed it. Did it do particularly well on the console?
It certainly wasn't as heavily marketed, right?
Edit: oh, wait....they ported a 2007 game to consoles in 2011? Crazy.
I can't post screens at the moment, but the Witcher 3 clueless gamer (running on PC) looks a lot better than those screens - colors seem more comparable to the PS4 screenshots.
viveks86
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Towelgate?
mrqs
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PC footage is getting out there, so I did some comparison shots between PS4 (top) and PC (bottom).
PC was said to be running on Ultra from a 970. Framerate obviously better on PC, but I'm really not sure how this disparity is possible...
http://imgur.com/a/h7hot
This doesn't seems right. Screen from conan below.
universalmind
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lol wtf? The PS4 shots look miles better...PC footage is getting out there, so I did some comparison shots between PS4 (top) and PC (bottom).
PC was said to be running on Ultra from a 970. Framerate obviously better on PC, but I'm really not sure how this disparity is possible...
http://imgur.com/a/h7hot
Typomancer
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Wow, those discrepancies cant be right. The hair, certain texture, and lighting differences between PC and PS4 make me feel like the PC version needs the day one patch solely for the graphics
No, the PS4 version has the bra (all the top screenshots are the PS4 versions), and I believe the source of that PS4 video was from an Arabic country.
No, the PS4 version has the bra (all the top screenshots are the PS4 versions), and I believe the source of that PS4 video was from an Arabic country.
viveks86
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CDPR did say there would be no difference between the console and PC versions aside from HairWorks and whatever resolution you play at.
I thought a 970 would stomp a PS4 in games. Apparently not. The difference is just one is a higher framerate. What explains this? Optimisation? Why is the PS4 so OP....?
viveks86
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The bottom pic is NOT the PC version on ultra. Heck, I'm not even sure if it's the PC version. The PC version has soft lighting that neither console version seems to have. And you don't need to run on ultra to see the difference. If it's the PC version, then it's probably running on medium. The fact that she has underwear on, but not the top makes it very suspicious as well. That's neither the censored final version nor the uncensored final version.
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