Witcher 3 downgrade arguments in here and nowhere else

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Ehhh? Is it pc though? This is fucking confusing.

Is that one from the Xbox One version?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZRpljZvY3I

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There is so much footage out there and people are losing their minds by focusing on the worst possible comparisons. The amount of confirmation bias on both sides of this debate has blown my mind for the last 87 pages. Just a few more days and we will all know what each platform can or can't do.
 
Hey Andy, three questions:

1) For your tweak guide, are you guys sticking with the standard settings, or will you be looking into advanced CFG tweaks too?

2) Do you know why CDPR have recently demo'd the game using standard SSAO and not HBAO? IGN's live stream being an example.

3) Could you send me a G-Sync monitor?

Thanks.
 
Hey Andy, three questions:

1) For your tweak guide, are you guys sticking with the standard settings, or will you be looking into advanced CFG tweaks too?

2) Do you know why CDPR have recently demo'd the game using standard SSAO and not HBAO? IGN's live stream being an example.

3) Could you send me a G-Sync monitor?

Thanks.

Made a thread for this so that important questions don't get lost in all the insanity going on here :)
http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1046647
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZRpljZvY3I

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There is so much footage out there and people are losing their minds by focusing on the worst possible comparisons. The amount of confirmation bias on both sides of this debate has blown my mind for the last 87 pages. Just a few more days and we will all know what each platform can or can't do.

Looking at those screens on the previous page the PC(Ultra) didn't look like it was on those setting at least to me. People use screens that favor their narrative, it's pretty ridiculous, especially when you know in a couple days everyone will have their hands on every version of this game.
 
Hey Andy, three questions:

1) For your tweak guide, are you guys sticking with the standard settings, or will you be looking into advanced CFG tweaks too?

2) Do you know why CDPR have recently demo'd the game using standard SSAO and not HBAO? IGN's live stream being an example.

3) Could you send me a G-Sync monitor?

Thanks.

I'm thinking this to be my next purchase. Thing is for higher res monitors with GSync it's over 700€ so I might just stick to 27" 1080P for a more reasonable price...
 
I tried to find official The Witcher 3 uncompressed trailers on The Witcher forums, but I couldn't find them.
Does anybody have a link from where I could download them ?
 
I think it's probably time to officially leave that insider's info behind. The picture he painted was a bleak one. Said that we were being sold a false bill of goods, and that they were promising us a game that didn't exist.

Well he wasn't wrong, if you're speaking in terms of graphics. Starting to feel this game would have been better off as a PC exclusive.
 
Well he wasn't wrong, if you're speaking in terms of graphics. Starting to feel this game would have been better off as a PC exclusive.

Or a PS4 exclusive! PC is the lowest denominator here.

Seriously, and it is sad, where is the PC games exclusively made for a target above PS4 specs? Where is it right now? Star Citizen? Only one game?

Lowest denominator for Witcher 3 are the PCs behind X1 in terms of specs, that's it.
 
From Andy's link:


GTX980 ==> 1080p Ultra with Hairworks, HBAO+ and PhysX at 60fps?

PS4 ==> 1080p med/high at 25-30fps?

This cannot be right, considering a bloody 7870 is a 'minimum requirement'. Surely a 960, being > than a 7870, would do better than low settings...
 
I do not need the sharpening, but I also like the color palate more. It just looks more realistic. The world out there, especially Poland/Germany is not that bright in the forests ;)

Yeah, sharpening aside I am finding the color palette much much better as well...
 
Witcher fanatic here, read the books, have a Witcher keychain, love the lore, for me it's Game of Thrones of gaming. Not even trying to deny I'm a hardcore fan. I don't care about the downgrade, a dx11 equivalent of W2:EE would have been fine with me. However...

I also took a "no preorder" stance ~5 yrs ago and while I was at times yearning to make an exception for CDPR, I managed to resist. I never ever thought that I would say this but I'm glad I didn't break my rule. I can still fully appreciate healthy criticism directed at CDPR.

A semi transparent "work in progress" disclaimer in a youtube video does not give ANY developer an excuse to show off a game with image quality the end user cannot reproduce.
Watched the Syndicate gameplay video, NPC's still have the same issues as in Unity, it's genuine footage and I applaud Ubi for it.

CDPR still has time to address this, in theory. If you watch the 35 min video, the controls are used in a fashion that best "hides" fps drops but whatever PC they used had constant issues to render steady 30fps. Even if that's the case, it's better to give the end user the option that crushes their PC's than to take away the choice completely.

Screenshots stopped being reliable a long time ago but CDPR have released quite a few videos, in other words, lots of "evidence" to be used against them. This is not a situation they would walk in deliberately but they are in it nonetheless.

AAA game development is an insanely expensive high risk business. Studio closures are frequent in the news, securing external funding to cover the astronomical development costs of a AAA game is very difficult. That's an explanation rather than excuse why studios/publishers resort to lowly stuff like that.

As for the expansion pack, if it's an old school expansion pack which it seems to be, I'm fine with it. Before people say it's the same thing as DLC, try Company of Heroes then it's expansion first, compare that to today's DLC.

Bottom line, I don't think this situation is something CDPR wanted, maybe they redeem themselves come launch day.

I game at 1440p on a 970/4790K clocking to 1.5GHz/4.8, most games run ultra and some allow 60fps with 2X MSAA. It looks like I won't have to make too many compromises to stay @60fps.

My 970 aiming for ultra @1440p is ~50% faster than my 7950, which was roughly 25% faster than PS's equivalent GPU. PS4 could squeeze out some good looks at 1080p/30fps.
 
So were they downgraded or were they not in-game? The people need to know, OP!

They were in-game before the next gen consoles came out. People don't realize the time and money it takes to make three separate versions of a game. So instead CDPR with their limited man power and budget made the game for the lowest common denominator and spruced it up for PC with the help of Nvidia. If you look at the recommended specs to stay above 40fps (GTX980 / Titan X at 1440p Ultra), I think they made the right call. All the optimization in the world would not have made the initial build run well on current hardware, leading to masses of people complaining that for once they have to turn the settings down a little.
 
PC. Not maxed out though.

If that's the case, I'm not too bothered about any downgrade, that still looks good.

And the lighting just looks better to me than Witcher 2s which I think went a bit overboard with lighting effects that sometimes look unnatural to me, not to mention the bloom.
 
The more I read this thread the more I feel inclined to buy the PS4 version instead of the PC one. I have an Nvidia 670, 16gb of RAM and at this point I'm doubting I'd be getting better performance or graphical quality on my rig.
 
The more I read this thread the more I feel inclined to buy the PS4 version instead of the PC one. I have an Nvidia 670, 16gb of RAM and at this point I'm doubting I'd be getting better performance or graphical quality on my rig.

I think you should be fine with that card. I don't think you should go with the PS4 version and lose the ability to have a better looking game in the future if you should upgrade.
 
If that's the case, I'm not too bothered about any downgrade, that still looks good.

And the lighting just looks better to me than Witcher 2s which I think went a bit overboard with lighting effects that sometimes look unnatural to me, not to mention the bloom.

The faces and people got upgraded, its the lighting, Smoke and Foliage we mostly discuss ;)
 
Anyone know where the burning village scene occurs in the game? Very curious to see how it looks in comparison to those original trailers.
 
Anyone know where the burning village scene occurs in the game? Very curious to see how it looks in comparison to those original trailers.

It's appeared in footage already and has been massively overhauled. New design for the King of the Wild Hunt, executed peasant no longer has a HairWorks coat (no-one does), brighter night lighting.
 
I think you should be fine with that card. I don't think you should go with the PS4 version and lose the ability to have a better looking game in the future if you should upgrade.

Either way, I'm not in a hurry to upgrade.

Also, if no one else is going to say it I will. A lot of these screenshots make the game's scenery look worse than Dragon Age Inquisition's.
 
And no more ember particles
Kids here are really melting down because the PC version has no visual superiority over the PS4 version?
I'm on PS4 and I find that really lame of CDPR. Doesn't make use of the platform and doesn't push graphics as far as they could have.
 
Kids here are really melting down because the PC version has no visual superiority over the PS4 version?
Americans won't understand. But we in Germany have fast cars and good insurances and want to use them. This is why we build and love our Autobahn.
 
Or a PS4 exclusive! PC is the lowest denominator here.

Seriously, and it is sad, where is the PC games exclusively made for a target above PS4 specs? Where is it right now? Star Citizen? Only one game?

Lowest denominator for Witcher 3 are the PCs behind X1 in terms of specs, that's it.

This is just so much stupid.
 
Kids here are really melting down because the PC version has no visual superiority over the PS4 version?

Well, 60 FPS, higher resolutions, better IQ, hairworks, HBAO+.. all of these things make the PC version decidedly superior to the PS4 (but no surprise there when a GTX 750ti is mopping the floor with it).

I guess some people wanted more.
 
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