Gawker put up an article accusing Louis CK of sexual misconduct

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These rumors have been going around for a while. Jen Kirkman sees to be talking about Louis at 31:20 in these recent podcast: https://soundcloud.com/jenkirkman/bitch-were-all-madonna
*sigh* yeah, that's not good.
It's linked in the article.

Linked in the article in the OP, but here it is.
Thanks guys, i feel stupid for being one of those people that didn't read the link in the OP.

Really sorry about that.
 
Could be true. Could be false.

However, I'll hold to the mantra of "innocent until proven guilty", no matter how unpopular the concept often is.
 
One has had years of court cases and numerous people come forward for decades, some who settled out of court.

The other has the allegations coming from a man begging for sources in the comments section of the same article, on a website known for its constant fake articles and terrible journalism.

It's not that GAF likes one or the other more, it's that GAF isn't fucking stupid enough to fall for the antics of a blogging website with no sources and awful journalism practices within the same story.
 
Wait people didn't know this? It's been out there for YEARS in the comedy scene that CK is a sexist weirdo.

Weird to watch all those in this thread in denial. Thought it was pretty common knowledge in the comedy geek fan scene.
 
Wait people didn't know this? It's been out there for YEARS in the comedy scene that CK is a sexist weirdo.

Weird to watch all those in this thread in denial. Thought it was pretty common knowledge in the comedy geek fan scene.

Cool. You got sources?

Edit: It's weird how these things stay in the scenes, but yet commentators and forum posters are the only ones in the know about it. Somehow, CK jerks off at the dinner table and nobody leaks this to the internet or reports him. Not his friends, not the people around him.

This is straight Lizard People tier stuff.
 
I have it on good authority (friends in the biz) that it’s Louis CK. I’ve heard stories about his propensity for whipping it out and jerking off in front of women at inappropriate times (i.e. dinner table, bar, etc.).

That seems like something someone would mention a lot more.
 
It is quite interesting.

Bullshit. Comparing a gawker article with no verified sources to a huge multi-outlet,numerous sources scandal is completely different.

I don't trust shit from gawker. They are a trash site that has a history of click baits.plus think back to early Cosby allegations and I doubt you'd find it interesting
 
Assuming this is true (and I have huge doubts right now), I hope Conan O'Brien isn't somehow complicit like hiding the truth.
 
Wait people didn't know this? It's been out there for YEARS in the comedy scene that CK is a sexist weirdo.

Weird to watch all those in this thread in denial. Thought it was pretty common knowledge in the comedy geek fan scene.

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Wait people didn't know this? It's been out there for YEARS in the comedy scene that CK is a sexist weirdo.

Weird to watch all those in this thread in denial. Thought it was pretty common knowledge in the comedy geek fan scene.

Sorry, I'm not a part of the comedy geek fan scene.
 
One has had years of court cases and numerous people come forward for decades, some who settled out of court.

The other has the allegations coming from a man begging for sources in the comments section of the same article, on a website known for its constant fake articles and terrible journalism.

It's not that GAF likes one or the other more, it's that GAF isn't fucking stupid enough to fall for the antics of a blogging website with no sources and awful journalism practices within the same story.

Well judging by this thread, an awful lot of GAF is.
 
Pee wee didn't do shit, that was massively overblown.

And no, people have given Cosby way more benefit of the doubt. It's been decades we've heard these cosby stories and still nothing has come of it.

It was, but it still destroyed his career. Sometimes just a result of the accusations contrasting so heavily with the public persona. I'm not just talking about Pee-Wee Herman, but politician scandals and all the like, it seems much more common to hear about publicly upstanding folks having these skeletons in their closet than people who are openly transgressive. Like I said, it might just be my mental bias here rather than truth.

We are arguing different things here. I've mentioned in this thread how Cosby was given considerable benefit of the doubt in the public sphere, but speaking specifically about how it would be taken on GAF, I don't know if that applies so much here.

Wait people didn't know this? It's been out there for YEARS in the comedy scene that CK is a sexist weirdo.

Weird to watch all those in this thread in denial. Thought it was pretty common knowledge in the comedy geek fan scene.

I'd like to see more sources then please.
 
Wait people didn't know this? It's been out there for YEARS in the comedy scene that CK is a sexist weirdo.

Weird to watch all those in this thread in denial. Thought it was pretty common knowledge in the comedy geek fan scene.
I didn't know before this thread. sorry.

I'm not in denial, it just sucks cause i really like him and he (like everyone else has said) seems like a really cool and down to earth fellow.
 
Cool. You got sources?

Edit: It's weird how these things stay in the scenes, but yet commentators and forum posters are the only ones in the know about it. Somehow, CK jerks off at the dinner table and nobody leaks this to the internet or reports him. Not his friends, not the people around him.

This is straight Lizard People tier stuff.

You'd generally need proof to come forward with these claims, and people could also generally fear CK's reach in the industry

The comedian scene is also very tight knit in general. These type of rumours could easily spread among them while not leaking out to the mainstream.

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt though since it's just anonymous sources at this point.
 
Bullshit. Comparing a gawker article with no verified sources to a huge multi-outlet,numerous sources scandal is completely different.

I don't trust shit from gawker. They are a trash site that has a history of click baits.plus think back to early Cosby allegations and I doubt you'd find it interesting

People are willing to ruin someone over one accusation- see the Australian man accused and harassed heavily of pedophilia because of a selfie. I'm not saying I believe this from Gawker, but Cosby was pretty much labeled guilty long before there were as many accusers as we now have. 3 should be more than enough to condemn CK should it not?

Plus there's the implications.
 
I didn't know before this thread. sorry.

I'm not in denial, it just sucks cause i really like him and he (like everyone else has said) seems like a really cool and down to earth fellow.

Did you really just believe what a random dude said about the "comedy geek scene" and take that as a fact?

C'mon.

You'd generally need proof to come forward with these claims, and people could also generally fear CK's reach in the industry

The comedian scene is also very tight knit in general. These type of rumours could easily spread among them while not leaking out to the mainstream.

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt though since it's just anonymous sources at this point.

You need proof for allegations, but you don't for stories!

And as tight knit as the community may be, shit will leak. Especially if it's a random girl instead of someone inside the community. I mean, whipping your dick out at the dinner table and nobody brings that shit up? Cosby had years of allegations and stories and he still couldn't keep all that shit in. What makes people think the lesser empires of CK and other comedians could do the same, even more so in the age of technology?

I get what you are saying, but Gawker is just full of it. Shame, because I'm sure some nasty shit goes down in general and we don't get to see it because of all these boy-who-cried-wolf.
 
People are willing to ruin someone over one accusation- see the Australian man accused and harassed heavily of pedophilia because of a selfie. I'm not saying I believe this from Gawker, but Cosby was pretty much labeled guilty long before there were as many accusers as we now have. 3 should be more than enough to condemn CK should it not?

IIRC, when the Buress joke went viral there were allegations from about 14 women against Cosby. In this case, the only thing we have is rumor and hearsay. There aren't even 3 accusers because nobody has actually come forward to directly accuse CK.
 
IIRC, when the Buress joke went viral there were allegations from about 14 women against Cosby. In this case, the only thing we have is rumor and hearsay. There aren't even 3 accusers because nobody has actually come forward to directly accuse CK.

You're right absolutely. I'm not sure why people were so shocked, or why Buress is viewed as "bringing down Cosby" when that stuff was out there for years, it just seemed like nobody cared before.

In this case, there's no basis as of now, but the attitude difference is interesting.
 
Did you really just believe what a random dude said about the "comedy geek scene" and take that as a fact?

C'mon.



You need proof for allegations, but you don't for stories!

And as tight knit as the community may be, shit will leak. Especially if it's a random girl instead of someone inside the community. I mean, whipping your dick out at the dinner table and nobody brings that shit up? Cosby had years of allegations and stories and he still couldn't keep all that shit in. What makes people think the lesser empires of CK and other comedians could do the same, even more so in the age of technology?

I get what you are saying, but Gawker is just full of it. Shame, because I'm sure some nasty shit goes down in general and we don't get to see it because of all these boy-who-cried-wolf.

basically, if you're telling a story to a friend, no one is going to ask you for pictures of his dick, and this is generally how the rumours will start.

and it will eventually leak, like it is right now possibly lol
 
Cosby had years of allegations and stories and he still couldn't keep all that shit in. What makes people think the lesser empires of CK and other comedians could do the same, even more so in the age of technology?

I think you're kinda misrepresenting why Cosby skated on those initial accusations. He didn't really have to put any effort into locking things down or keeping things tied up. I mean, he did, but it's not like it was some sort of Nixonian-level coverup (which also blew up, eventually) A lot of the general public basically did the heavy lifting for him. It's not so much Cosby was hiding things (although he put a little work into that) as a LOT of the general public just sorta tacitly agreeing to look the other way. It was a lot easier to just look the other way back then. Not so much now, though.
 
You're right absolutely. I'm not sure why people were so shocked, or why Buress is viewed as "bringing down Cosby" when that stuff was out there for years, it just seemed like nobody cared before.

In this case, there's no basis as of now, but the attitude difference is interesting.

People were shocked because people didn't know. Their first exposure to such info was from Hannibal Buress.
 
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basically, if you're telling a story to a friend, no one is going to ask you for pictures of his dick, and this is generally how the rumours will start.

and it will eventually leak, like it is right now possibly lol

But leaked to Gawker. By a journalist who's asking for sources in the comments section.

I can tell a story to a friend who will tell it to Gawker, but that doesn't make the original story true if Gawker started the story in the first place.

I think you're kinda misrepresenting why Cosby skated on those initial accusations. He didn't really have to put any effort into locking things down or keeping things tied up. I mean, he did, but it's not like it was some sort of Nixonian-level coverup (which also blew up, eventually) A lot of the general public basically did the heavy lifting for him. It's not so much Cosby was hiding things (although he put a little work into that) as a LOT of the general public just sorta tacitly agreeing to look the other way. It was a lot easier to just look the other way back then. Not so much now, though.

I didn't mean to imply that, but his PR people put in a lot of effort into shaping what he should say and do. Public image definitely took up the majority of how it was dealt with, but Cosby's crew still put in work, if we are to believe these allegations of how the girls were dealt with.
 
Cosby had the benefit of the doubt for a very, very long time, no?

Well, since those accusations first surfaced in the 90's and lasted a month before being buried, and only coming back up years later when another comedian was pissed that Cosby was bitching about black culture while skating on verified accusations, I would say he got a lot more than benefit of doubt.
 
Could be true. Could be false.

However, I'll hold to the mantra of "innocent until proven guilty", no matter how unpopular the concept often is.

There's a problem with that mantra, though, especially when it comes to the general public talking amongst themselves, but I'll let Cosby's old friend Dick Cavett say it, since he's put it pretty succinctly most recently:

Cavett rejects the suggestion that Cosby should be considered “innocent until proven guilty.’”

“That’s the most misunderstood phrase in the American system,” he says. “It doesn’t mean what people think it does. If you’re innocent then proven guilty, were you innocent? It’s the presumption of innocence which refers to the fact that you don’t have to prove you’re innocent, they have to prove you’re guilty. It’s not a rule of law, it’s a rule of evidence.”

"Innocent til Proven Guilty" outside of a courtroom is more often than not used as a means to discard whatever bits of the story you don't want to address. It's finding a fence to sit on.
 
Well, since those accusations first surfaced in the 90's and lasted a month before being buried, and only coming back up years later when another comedian was pissed that Cosby was bitching about black culture while skating on verified accusations, I would say he got a lot more than benefit of doubt.

Junior on point.
 
CK bout to get hit with a Cosby. Damn shame.

Cosby was accused of raping girls; CK is rumored to have beaten off in front of them

They not only aren't the same thing, they're not in the same league.
 
Cosby was accused of raping girls; CK is rumored to have beaten off in front of them

They not only aren't the same thing, they're not in the same league.

The league of sexual misconduct. Not to mention accusations of using his suction to bolster/ruin careers.
 
Cosby was accused of raping girls; CK is rumored to have beaten off in front of them

They not only aren't the same thing, they're not in the same league.

Sure, but they WILL be compared to each other and in the eyes of the public there is little difference.
 
There's a problem with that mantra, though, especially when it comes to the general public talking amongst themselves, but I'll let Cosby's old friend Dick Cavett say it, since he's put it pretty succinctly most recently:



"Innocent til Proven Guilty" outside of a courtroom is more often than not used as a means to discard whatever bits of the story you don't want to address. It's finding a fence to sit on.
I'll gladly sit on a fence if "he said, she said" is all we have to go on. You don't have to pick a side when there's no evidence for either
 
People were shocked because people didn't know. Their first exposure to such info was from Hannibal Buress.
bullshit. Back in the 90's it was all over the place and the public basically said "not our Cosby" and it dissapeared. Of course at the point he was still a "Natonal Treasure" for the Cosby show and had not yet built himself an Uncle Tom reputation.

But no one being aware is straight bullshit.
 
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