And vise versa...but that's for another thread.
Witcher 3 downgrade arguments in here and nowhere else
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Yep. The colors seem to have a lot less depth.
KoopaTheCasual
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You honestly think that the PC day one patch is going to put the game's environment back up to 2013 levels?... Really?Good god how can people compare PS4 images to the old trailers and say "downgrade"
Of course the consoles can't look as good as the PC version, I will be VERY surprised if it doesn't look like the footage on the PC versions when completely maxed out and .ini tuned.
Some of you guys is crazy.
Lets wait until launch and see how the PC versions performs... I'm pretty sure there will be a lot of crow eaten.
Honestly they look extremely similar, with some SweetFX tweaking I'm sure the PC version could be made to look like the demo image.
The REAL downgrade going on is the absence of the serf hanging out in that barn door, though, I'm gonna be looking for that dude.
The whole point is that the ps4 version is missing features that the pc version will have but right now we don't really know how much of a difference they'll make. To compare the old shots to the inferior ps4 version and claim it as proof of a downgrade is just foolish.
This isn't me saying that a downgrade didn't happen but I'd much rather wait two days to find out.
Zomba13
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"Features" like 1080p and 60FPS.
KoopaTheCasual
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But we've seen PC footage, just not "maxed" even though it was "ultra". I don't think assets are going to appear/change at this point, and for the poster I originally quoted to confidently say people will "eat crow" is laughable.
This really doesn't seem like a Watch_Dogs or Bioshock Infinite bad, both promised innovative gameplay mechanics and, with the exception of the DLC for Infinite, both failed. Well, the DLC in infinite wasn't innovative, but it toned stuff down to where it was almost what they had initially sold to us at E3.
But, my point is this does not seem like something to complain over or focus on. If the game works, if its fun and mostly looks fine, cool.
But, my point is this does not seem like something to complain over or focus on. If the game works, if its fun and mostly looks fine, cool.
Yeah, that's all it's going to have. Mmmhmm.
I don't really disagree with this either.
CrichtonKicks
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But people aren't complaining about assets in that screenshot selection- they are complaining about LOD and HBAO. Two things the PC version does add.
Sanctuary
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I watched the gamersyce PS4 Videos and the game looks really good, but that foliage is really really turning me off in some points. Sometimes it looks like a 2D setup
It's not just the foliage. The architecture quality is all over the place too. Some of it is very well done, while much of it on the outskirts of the cities looks like last minute props made of cardboard. There's zero bump mapping or depth to the textures and it just looks like simple polygons with wallpaper on top of it.
CDPR PR, the shovel that keeps on digging. It's amazing that they graced us with the standard features of playing a typical PC version of a game too. We should feel so grateful for that!
K-putt
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155 1440p/ultra screenshots from blaidd
He disabled Motion Blur, Chromatic Aberration and Hairworks though.
I still think the game looks bad..
He disabled Motion Blur, Chromatic Aberration and Hairworks though.
I still think the game looks bad..
icecold1983
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it doesnt look BAD, but theres certainly nothing impressive about it. theres several open world games that look much better. looks like a middle of the road gen 8 multiplatform title.
wanderingprostheyltite
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Looks really bland and flat in those shots, but I know it looks better in motion. Still sucks it doesn't look a lot better :\
EatChildren
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That is not tesselation. The geometry is the same, lit differently with stronger AO.
Lactose_Intolerant
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The link doesn't work for me without an account apparently. But if that's true then gg.
Primethius
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Some screenshots look great, others are a bit jarring. The character models look drastically better then the environment in which they reside.
Edit: Foliage is just blagh.
No kidding. The one near the statue/church like building is on the level of DAI.
The flat and plain ground texture on the left side of the screen is really something.
SunBroDave
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From those screenshots I really don't think that the Witcher looks better than DA:I, but I am expecting it to be a better game. 45 more hours!
K-putt
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Fixed the link. Beware of the germans.
Yeah...it can't be right...unless that's like really bad lighting for grass or something...
That's what he said alright, well according to google translate anyway, he says:
Just as CDP admitted, the final game will look inconsistent overall. Some of those shots (along with others we've seen) look breathtaking. Others look average. I'm sure if the 2013 build had been made more widely available, similarly flawed parts of it would come to light.
Vulcano's assistant
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I'm starting to think the 2013 actual game built would have looked even less like the trailers, like those were their own thing and the game was another.
Looks quite awesome to me. I do somewhat agree with the "too colorful" post, though. I remember watching the Killing Monsters CGI trailer and getting very excited for the overall tone and atmosphere of the game based on that, and it's indeed quite different.
But I still think it looks amazing, even if not as amazing as it would otherwise.
But I still think it looks amazing, even if not as amazing as it would otherwise.
Oh don't get me wrong. It's just a very minor 2-5% difference in the 7970 Ghz edition's favour. But the numbers don't lie.
http://www.ocaholic.ch/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=1201&page=17
Edit: Seems the R9 is a tiny teeny bit faster in certain situations. I guess the comparison is bunk and outside variables might've affected performance.
Apparently Ultra:
Minus what was mentioned just earlier. Flickr doesn't let me link.
Can't be.
This doesn't look particularly good, but some of the other shots in that account:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/127773964@N03/sets/72157652536729480
look incredibly good. I highly recommend people take a look at those. I would post some of these to abload.de for everybody to see but I don't really want to step on the authors toes.
One spot I noticed in a 2013 gameplay trailer was that you can see the low quality grass assets in a spot too (it's the same when he gets close to it).
Grass is fine here:
But then immediately infront and on the right:
Anyway, it's a huge difference vs these, which are ultra and 1440p from the flickr source earlier:
It's the lighting too.
If it had that grass (which Dragon Age Inquisition had if not better and that lighting...which wasn't too bad in DA:I either...then that would be something.
EatChildren
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Are people still expecting mystery visual overhauling ultra settings or something?
ChiefofCitadelSecurity
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Damn at some of these shots. Like some of the shit is so damn blatant.
The game could definitely look better.
Yep
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The world doesn't look much graphically different than Assassin's Creed Black Flag in most shots.
Yeah, there's people in this thread saying judging isn't allowed until the game has officially released in case the patch fixes the game. Gonna patch it back to 2013 in some people's minds.
icecold1983
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One spot I noticed in a 2013 gameplay trailer was that you can see the low quality grass assets in a spot too (it's the same when he gets close to it).
Grass is fine here:
But then immediately infront and on the right:
Huge difference vs:
It's the lighting too.
If it had that grass (which Dragon Age Inquisition had if not better and that lighting...which wasn't too bad in DA:I either...then that would be something.
its amazing that people think the only diff is color temperature and sharpening.
edit - oops, forgot about TOD
CassidyIzABeast
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The notion that they were going to pack every inch of a massive open world game with the density seen in the early footage is completely laughable looking back.
Yep. Totally gonna have a whole forest that looks like that. Honest truth guys.
Yep. Totally gonna have a whole forest that looks like that. Honest truth guys.
Yep, like this:
And right at the start after the "may be inappropriate for children warning":
Are we getting the undowngraded "no downgrade, no downgrade!", uncompromised pc version that we were told?
But then immediately infront and on the right:
The grass seen to the right of his shoulder appears to be the same sprite currently used. Can't say for sure due to the motion blur.
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They'd have many of us fooled into thinking they got very close if they hadn't fucked up the art, kept great motion blur, and kept the higher contrast.
IchigoSharingan
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I'm convinced after reading countless posts and seeing countless screenshots this shit got downgraded to hell and modders will fix what they can while cdpr counts green.
disappointed but I understand it had to be done to make the game great on consoles. game still looks great. guess I'll give it a 2nd play through once modding and color palette progress is significant.
disappointed but I understand it had to be done to make the game great on consoles. game still looks great. guess I'll give it a 2nd play through once modding and color palette progress is significant.
wanderingprostheyltite
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Is that really that hard to achieve on PC though? I mean what's going on there that would be so demanding? The shaders, lighting through the foliage? I assume you mean quality of assets+density. I think most mid to high end could pull it off. Shaders are lacking but even an indie game like The Forest has already shown a nice density of trees and foliage with good lighting. Maybe not up to part with those W3 shots but it seems like if cdpr had more time/resources they could've pulled it off.
You're making it sound as if they don't deserve any money after making a 100+ hour game, regardless of how it looks.
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