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[Queen of Hunting]

what has Microsoft to do with it?

co marketing, wanting parity ? for release ?

then 6 months down line company can release an enhanced version and by then it wont matter intital sales would have happend ?

 

[Jedi2016]

Please tell me, what the hell is going on. It doesn't make sense to me. Conan video had towel and ass, while the video of gronkh (also pre-release version) had no towel and no naked ass. While other PS4 version do have towel and ass.

Too much ass here.

Most of the "leaked" (street date broken) copies are from countries that have the "censored" version without the T&A. Conan's version was probably censored because it was going on broadcast television, CDPR probably brought in that version specifically for the show.

Retail version in NA/EU:

 

[BatNIC]

PCGH has a comparison between the preview and review version(including day one patch) up: Click

review copy includes:

better vegetation
better ao
water tesselation
better textures
better shadows

But it costs a few fps according to the article. It's still not a huge difference though.

 

[Gunslinger]

Experience in the industry isn't required to understand lying to customers is wrong.



PC version has no copy protection as it's a GoG game.

I know right they should just put the "doesn't represent actual game" or "Graphics are scheduled to change" or something like that in CG videos. That way people wont get upset like they are now.

 

[Yasae]

I am not sure how a partial MS marketting deal could be responsible for apparent parity. Rather, it is a matter of developer choice. The current gen twins are so similar that their apparent differences (primarily resolution) are understandable. The lack of differences in the PC SKU at higher settings implies that the capabilities of modern PCs were pretty much ignored.

It is not as if the game is ugly all of a sudden, but it is hard to stomach that ultra is basically a slightly better high... instead of introducing a wide range of heavy effects work.

Pretty much. What do you think of AC:Unity? Did they overshoot a bit there?

 

[aliengmr]

So lets put on our tin foil heads.

But this looks more like parity between all three systems, then just a downgrade. The Xbox One and PS4 versions are very close to each other and the PS4 and PC version is also nearly identical. Do you think this has something to do with the Microsoft PR deal, because Microsoft doesn't want the Xbox ONE to look way behind (graphicly speaking)? Is it 'Unity' all over again?

But wouldn't parity mean stripping out Gameworks? Resolutions higher than 1080?

I hardly think including these options in the game would be the best way to go creating "parity" between the consoles and PC.

 

[viveks86]

What answer do you know? Don't worry. I can bear the the truth. lol



You thought PS4 version was censored? lol

No. I knew it's not censored in Germany. "SHOCKING" in all caps always means the opposite.

Also,

Spoiler

you can't handle the truth

 

[Kenzodielocke]

Most of the "leaked" (street date broken) copies are from countries that have the "censored" version without the T&A. Conan's version was probably censored because it was going on broadcast television, CDPR probably brought in that version specifically for the show.

But Conan's version wasn't censored.

 

[iNvid02]

Oh please they could have still kept the graphics the same or similar as 2013 if they wished but they didnt

maybe, maybe not. don't try and act like you know anything for certain though, because none of us do.

 

[viveks86]

But Conan's version wasn't censored.

Correct

 

[Doc Evils]

maybe, maybe not. don't try and act like you know anything for certain though, because none of us do.

So instead, the decided to lie to sell the game thinking no one would notice! lol

 

[PLASTICA-MAN]

Spoiler

you can't handle the truth

Spoiler

I hope the retail version isn't censored then.

 

[johnieboy]

This is probably good news:

the guy who made the Screenshots in

155 shots of the PC version at max settings :
https://www.flickr.com/photos/127773964@N03/sets/72157652536729480/with/17127643174/

says that the review version of the Game is looking a lot better then everything that is out there now in videos and Screenshots of the game, especially vegetation, water and LOD. But also demands more GPU-Power.

He also says that the Gamestar video was made with an older preview version of the Game and hes about to make a comparison of his own.

And yes he has access to the PC game already, because hes working at PCGH.

Links: (all german)

http://www.forum-3dcenter.org/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=10628734&postcount=1975
http://www.forum-3dcenter.org/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=10628743&postcount=1978
http://www.forum-3dcenter.org/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=10628752&postcount=1979

And its already up i see:

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/commoncfm/comparison/indexb2.cfm?id=125693

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/The-Witcher-3-PC-237266/Specials/The-Witcher-3-Screenshots-1159185/

Review Verions looks a lot better

Edit: beaten

 

[dampflokfreund]

http://www.gamestar.de/spiele/the-witcher-3-wild-hunt/news/witcher_3_downgrade,49062,3085975.html

Oh... thats really a massive downgrade.

 

[Gunslinger]

So instead, the decided to lie to sell the game thinking no one would notice! lol

99.9% people won't notice lol. They are used to playing on consoles with low settings anyway. But seriously most gamers are casual and won't notice any downgrade whatsoever. If they like the gameplay they will keep playing. That's why CoD sells a lot. Cause it's gameplay is still top notch when it comes to FPS. And its lower skill ceiling.

 

[Jedi2016]

But Conan's version wasn't censored.

You just said it had a towel, yes? That's censored. It's broadcast television.. they can't realistically have several minutes of footage with a giant "NAUGHTY BITS" sticker on the screen. Think about it. There is absolutely no indication whatsoever that what he played is what we will play.

Long story short, I'm not expecting a towel or any other censoring in that scene in the actual final release. That's per people that actually have the retail game, and Yen is completely butt-naked in that scene. What more do you want?

 

[ISee]

PCGH has a comparison between the preview and review version(including day one patch) up: Click

review copy includes:

better vegetation
better ao
water tesselation
better textures
better shadows

But it costs a few fps according to the article. It's still not a huge differnce though.

hmm vegetation and shadow resolution are for sure better now.

 

[viveks86]

You just said it had a towel, yes? That's censored. It's broadcast television.. they can't realistically have several minutes of footage with a giant "NAUGHTY BITS" sticker on the screen. Think about it. There is absolutely no indication whatsoever that what he played is what we will play.

Long story short, I'm not expecting a towel or any other censoring in that scene in the actual final release. That's per people that actually have the retail game, and Yen is completely butt-naked in that scene. What more do you want?

Lol. You have it all upside down. Literally

 

[UnrealEck]

I know right they should just put the "doesn't represent actual game" or "Graphics are scheduled to change" or something like that in CG videos. That way people wont get upset like they are now.

Yeah or just admit 'things had to be changed' when they're asked.

 

[Emperor_Uriel]

Oh please they could have still kept the graphics the same or similar as 2013 if they wished but they didnt

And like nobody would have been able to run it.

They would've needed to keep two separate sets of assets, one for PC and one for consoles, which is immensely expensive and inefficient. And even then only like 1% of PC gamers would've had cards capable of handling those settings.

Again, if you want to be pissed at someone, be pissed at Nvidia and AMD for intentionally gimping their cards. CDPR was clearly expecting that Titan Black specs would be the standard for $300-$400 cards by now, which isn't unreasonable.

 

[Blade30]

So instead, the decided to lie to sell the game thinking no one would notice! lol

If no one had noticed, then we wouldn't be even talking about this downgrade.
I can't understand why they keep talking about that the game hasn't been downgraded or why they haven't made it clear that the 2013 trailer (VGX) was a target render.

 

[Kenzodielocke]

You just said it had a towel, yes? That's censored. It's broadcast television.. they can't realistically have several minutes of footage with a giant "NAUGHTY BITS" sticker on the screen. Think about it. There is absolutely no indication whatsoever that what he played is what we will play.

Long story short, I'm not expecting a towel or any other censoring in that scene in the actual final release. That's per people that actually have the retail game, and Yen is completely butt-naked in that scene. What more do you want?

She has nothing on but the towel, that's uncensored in my eyes. In the other versions she has her panties on or panties and bra.

 

[Vamphuntr]

The day 1 patch is our savior.

 

[Jedi2016]

She has nothing on but the towel, that's uncensored in my eyes. In the other versions she has her panties on or panties and bra.

Okay, back up a minute. Which shot are we talking about here? Because the one I'm thinking of, she's wearing nothing at all.

 

[viveks86]

She has nothing on but the towel, that's uncensored in my eyes. In the other versions she has her panties on or panties and bra.

He missed the part where the towel is on her head. He may not have seen my GIF.

 

[Leb]

Wait one more day. Why do you think i made that mind fuck of a GIF? Proof, towels, crow are all coming. I think. If they don't.... well... everyone's fucked. We can all get our pitchforks ready then

Wait, I'm confused... is this with specific respect to that cutscene or are you suggesting that there's some slim chance that tomorrow evening, the Hindenburg WON'T collide with the Lusitania, sparking the great fire of London while showering the countryside with burning plague rats?

 

[Sid]

I know right they should just put the "doesn't represent actual game" or "Graphics are scheduled to change" or something like that in CG videos. That way people wont get upset like they are now.

They should just put the 'Target Render' label on these 'in-engine' vids

 

[diamount]

And like nobody would have been able to run it.

They would've needed to keep two separate sets of assets, one for PC and one for consoles, which is immensely expensive and inefficient. And even then only like 1% of PC gamers would've had cards capable of handling those settings.

Again, if you want to be pissed at someone, be pissed at Nvidia and AMD for intentionally gimping their cards. CDPR was clearly expecting that Titan Black specs would be the standard for $300-$400 cards by now, which isn't unreasonable.

You are talking nonsense right now. How has that stopped other developers pushing the envelope?

 

[skonvolt]

I don't think it's as easy as "Lol Microsoft told them to make PS4 and PC versions ugly".
Hell I'm more inclined to believe their engine is at fault and that there are engine limitations that they realised much too late into development that they couldn't overcome.

Why piss off 2/3rds of potential customers because big papa Microsoft said so?

agree and meaning that is maybe possible to a achieve the 2014 gameplay but it also possible that it need a supermachine far from the sys req, and now they have to choose:

we say to players that if they want supergraphic they have to spend 600 $ or we low a little and the game run to everyone with a good pc?

and the our part of the question is : we prefer to listen that our 960 is useless and we have to buy a 980 or we prefer to play and who care?

 

[BigTnaples]

PCGH has a comparison between the preview and review version(including day one patch) up: Click

review copy includes:

better vegetation
better ao
water tesselation
better textures
better shadows

But it costs a few fps according to the article. It's still not a huge difference though.

Damn. Looks fantastic.

Best day one patch ever?

That preview build was indeed fucked.

 

[Derp]

Wrong again, NO DAY ONE PATCH. They will get it on Monday and they said it several times. But you have proven countless times that you only hear what you want to hear, posted low res twitch screenshots and made pointless PC vs PS4 comparisons. You Sir are a fountain of misinformation and a day one grade A moran. Congrats.

What the fuck? I'm not saying it has the day one patch, I'm saying I was watching the stream and a moderator said it had the patch, and so I posted it on this thread. We then found out that he was wrong and it doesn't have the patch. I didn't spread any misinformation. What I said was 100% true ("a moderator said it had the patch"). I never said it had the patch. Get your head out of your ass and learn how to read and interpret sentences so you don't look like an idiot next time.

 

[Blade30]

She has nothing on but the towel, that's uncensored in my eyes. In the other versions she has her panties on or panties and bra.

Okay, back up a minute. Which shot are we talking about here? Because the one I'm thinking of, she's wearing nothing at all.

Could it be that it's randomized what she's wearing in that scene?

 

[Gunslinger]

And like nobody would have been able to run it.

They would've needed to keep two separate sets of assets, one for PC and one for consoles, which is immensely expensive and inefficient. And even then only like 1% of PC gamers would've had cards capable of handling those settings.

Again, if you want to be pissed at someone, be pissed at Nvidia and AMD for intentionally gimping their cards. CDPR was clearly expecting that Titan Black specs would be the standard for $300-$400 cards by now, which isn't unreasonable.

pretty much this./thread right here. Even after the tremendous level of downgrade the #pcmasterrace can only run this game at ultra with top of the line graphics card. If the original vision was still intact the game would have to be PC exclusive only and a 980 would probably run the game on mid-low settings. Sorry but that's a terrible business decision. Sorry but man if some you were running a company it would go bankrupt so fast lol.

 

[viveks86]

Wait, I'm confused... is this with specific respect to that cutscene or are you suggesting that there's some slim chance that tomorrow evening, the Hindenburg WON'T collide with the Lusitania, sparking the great fire of London while showering the countryside with burning plague rats?

No comment on this till I get my hands on this fucking game. Monday can't come soon enough

 

[Emperor_Uriel]

You are talking nonsense right now. How has that stopped other developers pushing the envelope?

From Software with Dark Souls 2, except they openly admitted they overestimated the leap in tech we'd see with next gen.

 

[GeekMarty]

For you guys who are debating about the nudity stuff: http://gearnuke.com/witcher-3-comparison-censored-uncensored-reveals-almost-no-nudity/

 

[diamount]

pretty much this./thread right here. Even after the tremendous level of downgrade the #pcmasterrace can only run this game at ultra with top of the line graphics card. If the original vision was still intact the game would have to be PC exclusive only and a 980 would probably run the game on mid-low settings. Sorry but that's a terrible business decision. Sorry but man if some you were running a company it would go bankrupt so fast lol.

Crysis 3 is still the most demanding games on PC, and it was released on LAST GEN consoles in 2013, which is why they make it very demanding first for the people who can run it, and downgrade from there. Not downgrade then slight upgrade, stop parroting that inane logic.

 

[viveks86]

For you guys who are debating about the nudity stuff: http://gearnuke.com/witcher-3-comparison-censored-uncensored-reveals-almost-no-nudity/

Yep. All this is old news at this point.

 

[Blade30]

From Software with Dark Souls 2, except they openly admitted they overestimated the leap in tech we'd see with next gen.

Wait, how can they say they overestimated it, when Dark Souls 2 was a last gen game, which got ported later this year to ps4/xone?

 

[Gunslinger]

Crysis 3 is still the most demanding games on PC, and it was released on LAST GEN consoles in 2013, which is why they make it very demanding first for the people who can run it, and downgrade from there. Not downgrade then slight upgrade, stop parroting that inane logic.

And the amount of cost and manpower it took combined with subpar sales probably one of the reason that caused crytek to do this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crytek_USA#Shutdown

EDIT: Also crysis is a miniscule game compared to the size and scope of witcher 3. Can you imagine creating separate textures for 2 different platforms? are you crazy? The amount of manpower and work hours it would take while you have a deadline is insane.

 

[wanderingprostheyltite]

Well those updated pcgh shots give me hope, looks far better than what we've been seeing on most streams and shots. Cdpr may save the day yet!

 

[H4r4kiri]

Damn. Looks fantastic.



Best day one patch ever?

That preview build was indeed fucked.

Shadows , LoD/View Distance looks better. Still do not like the vegetation and I still think it looks better in the Tutoriallevel. That the games looks good overall is no question.

 

[Emperor_Uriel]

Crysis 3 is still the most demanding games on PC, and it was released on LAST GEN consoles in 2013, which is why they make it very demanding first for the people who can run it, and downgrade from there. Not downgrade then slight upgrade, stop parroting that inane logic.

Which means they likely did what I mentioned above, and kept two separate sets of assets. Crytek is in terrible shape right now.

 

[cjp]

Crysis 3 is still the most demanding games on PC, and it was released on LAST GEN consoles in 2013, which is why they make it very demanding first for the people who can run it, and downgrade from there. Not downgrade then slight upgrade, stop parroting that inane logic.

It's a little bit funny you reply to that post citing a game from a company that's supposedly on the verge of bankruptcy.

 

[UnrealEck]

And like nobody would have been able to run it.

They were running it back then. We now have even better hardware. On top of that, we don't even know what it ran on back then. Was it a 780? A Ti? Single or more?
Plus PC is constantly advancing in hardware.

They would've needed to keep two separate sets of assets, one for PC and one for consoles, which is immensely expensive and inefficient. And even then only like 1% of PC gamers would've had cards capable of handling those settings.

I agree with the first part.
The second part, is just guessing and reminiscent of the post someone else made with the Steam hardware survey. Even if it were 1%, we don't know the numbers. Consider what a PC gamer is. How do you class it? Then you have more complications when you take into consideration things like 'what is acceptable performance?', things start to get way too unpredictable.

 

[Kenzodielocke]

For you guys who are debating about the nudity stuff: http://gearnuke.com/witcher-3-comparison-censored-uncensored-reveals-almost-no-nudity/

There's is also a version where she has panties but no bra and towel.

https://youtu.be/04cJF4oLxOw?t=7m50s

 

[gatti-man]

And the amount of cost and manpower it took combined with subpar sales probably one of the reason that caused crytek to do this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crytek_USA#Shutdown

It had subpar sales because the game itself wasn't fun. You're flat wrong man.

And the amount of cost and manpower it took combined with subpar sales probably one of the reason that caused crytek to do this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crytek_USA#Shutdown

EDIT: Also crysis is a miniscule game compared to the size and scope of witcher 3. Can you imagine creating separate textures for 2 different platforms? are you crazy? The amount of manpower and work hours it would take while you have a deadline is insane.

Your edit made it even worse. You make 1 set of textures and just reduce the resolution for consoles. Common sense actually.

 

[viveks86]

There's is also a version where she has panties but no bra and towel.

https://youtu.be/04cJF4oLxOw?t=7m50s

Gearnuke's article is about the official versions the public are expected to get... As I said earlier, there are only 2 versions

 

[dEvAnGeL]

Crysis 3 is still the most demanding games on PC, and it was released on LAST GEN consoles in 2013, which is why they make it very demanding first for the people who can run it, and downgrade from there. Not downgrade then slight upgrade, stop parroting that inane logic.

this is true, not even a 980 can run this game at 60 frames with all the settings on the highest at 1080p, crazy

 

[diamount]

And the amount of cost and manpower it took combined with subpar sales probably one of the reason that caused crytek to do this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crytek_USA#Shutdown

Crytek's financial woes had nothing to do with Crysis 3. It was them over-expanding, please don't go off-topic. It was already been shown they had the tech in place but decided to forgo all that and remove it entirely, for parity reasons obviously.