Never say never.
I'd love for them to do another game in the West Coast.
I don't think Fallout fans want to wait 8 years for the next Fallout game while they develop the next Elder Scrolls.
Fallout 4 Officially Revealed for PC, Xbox One, PS4 [Reddit Rumor = Ban]
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Never say never.
I'd love for them to do another game in the West Coast.
I don't think Fallout fans want to wait 8 years for the next Fallout game while they develop the next Elder Scrolls.
Exactly. I see this more as a three minute teaser than a trailer.
CarbonFire
Member
I don't think Bethesda's ever getting off the Gamebryo train. At least they figured out how to get a lighting engine into this version. Still haven't figured out HBAO though, and it will be harder to inject in this game than in previous Gamebryo games (DX11 vs DX9).
Don't worry, knowing it's a Bethesda game the shitty animations will more than cover up for any improved graphics.
It's funny that Behesda, even though all their shortcomings, still manage to make me hyped for every new Elder Scroll and Fallout release.
Day 1
Backfoggen
Banned
Still going to get the Gamecube version.
You have some rather strange expectations for a teaser trailer.
Everything is an assumption.
TheSlySoul
Member
5 year development cycles are not that uncommon. Remember Kingdom Hearts main series?
Yes, i think you are right. Sometimes seeing how last gen games looked can be shocking.
I got the urge to replay Burnout Paradise last month, a game that i loved on ps3 and thought had pretty graphics. Running the pc version at max settings i couldn't believe that game was that blocky and blurred.
Granted that the pc port seems to be really lazy, but the difference of what i remembered and the reality was astonishing.
White_sox
Member
This instantly vaults to #1 on my most anticipated. There's so much going on in the trailer and exploring was my absolute favorite part of FO3. It's the reason why I think FO3 is a more enjoyable game than New Vegas. This new world looks exciting and I cannot wait. Hoping 2015!
Welfare
Member
Early October would be perfect.
XANDER CAGE
Member
You said it yourself - we don't know yet. It's perfectly reasonable to form an opinion on the information we do have. Speculating is also fine, but let's not get at each other's throats over hypotheticals in either direction.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
It does sort of look like it could be though. It's just not very impressive in any way. No crazy dense vegetation like in TW3, average textures, average character models, no ambient occlusion (which I REALLY think is hurting the overall look), poor LOD in the distance, no particularly advanced shading nor PBR from what I can see, etc. So yeah, to me this looks like it COULD run at 60 fps on the consoles. Not saying it will though. Might just be that Bethesda's engine can't do better than this with decent performance.
Darkstorne
Member
This has nothing to do with Bethesda's engine. They bought the GameBryo engine back in, what, 1999/2000? Modified it in-house for Morrowind which launched in 2002, and since then have altered and added so much to it that it bears hardly any resemblance to the original.
It doesn't matter what GameBryo adds to their engine, because Bethesda haven't used anything from GameBryo since Morrowind. It's all been their own in-house alterations since then to the point that they've been able to give their engine it's own name.
Gravy Boat
Member
You have really high expectations for something that was created purely to say 'This game exists'
CharmingCharlie
Member
I really do love this trailer, I can't stop watching it. I wouldn't say I am a huge fallout fan either. I think the last time I watched a trailer over and over again was one of Mass Effect 2's trailer.
Really looking forward to more info on Fallout 4.
Really looking forward to more info on Fallout 4.
You know that idiom doesn't mean anything, correct?
It's a reflexive psychological defense mechanism humans use to detach themselves from differing points of view in an attempt to claim that those with contrary ideas must be incapable of existing in a social framework outside of their opinion and thusly devaluing their worth as a human an based on their acceptance by a community.
It's effectively an attempt to dehumanize others. Interesting that my constructed opinions have had enough of an effect on your life that you have to attempt to break me down on a personal level in order to feel better about yourself.
Have you ever thought of the sheer cruelty of what you're doing there? That you need to attempt to bully and intimidate someone and make them feel like less of a human because of their Internet posted opinion? I'm sorry your moral center is so damaged, I hope it gets better someday. I'd suggest seeing a therapist.
LabouredSubterfuge
Member
This definitely looks like it runs on consoles. Kudos to Bethesda for learning from Ubi and CDPR's mistakes.
th4tguy
Member
.... gaf .... really?
On topic, I haven't seen anything in the trailer that has put me off graphics wise. It's not the best in the world but I'd rather it look like it does and run smooth then look like Witcher 3 and run like the Witcher 3.
That baby looks like a doll though. Maybe it is and the family is actually crazy.
Emedan
Member
Well I'm the wrong person to ask, I don't think FPS is end all be all, 30 FPS is for me more than playable (anyone having been a boy playing PC games on a tight hardware budget can probably relate). For me presentation was always more important, I mean come on, games a visual medium, it needs to improve, I expect it to.
Sure, but then look at Oblivion, that was the most stunning game I had ever seen when it came out, really nothing could touch it. Why can't they do that again? What's their excuse?
I can agree of course that not all companies posses the talent - but that doesn't mean I can't be disappointed, if they lack the talent they should go find it. I can't demand that game developers should do everything in their power to make the most stunning looking, best playing and most interesting game they can? I EXPECT THEM TO, no of course there will be compromise, but this is too far for me to label it as such. It is an improvement, but by the time that have past I expect more.
at 1:55 mark in the trailer, isn't that the George Washington statue in Boston?
Maybe I'm wrong but I thought that was the statue of Paul Revere.
GreatestHits
Member
The trailer is suppose to make you ask questions, not spoil everything, seems to be working though because you seem very interested.
ChasingComets
Member
You really wouldn't want to wish Bethesda glitches on yourself, I'm telling ya.
I've learned my lesson from an entire generation's worth of games from them; staying well the fuck away from this for at least a couple of months before playing. And with the immensely vocal criticism on broken games these days, if Bethesda brings it out in usual form, the shitstorm is going to be massive.
Yep. 1 Screengrab per second slideshow.
Might want to wait on the kudos until the game actually releases.
Zabant
Member
I'm going with red. Red Sox!
He's not wrong though, that was a shit trailer, teaser or otherwise.
And everyone is probably going to jump all over me for saying that just like they're jumping on him, but me saying that the trailer was terrible is not me proclaiming that Fallout 4 is going to be terrible - it could be an amazing game for all I know. But strictly speaking about video game trailers.... that was not a good trailer.
What was the point of the dog walking through the house, switching between the past and the future? Was it supposed to be sad? Creepy? There was no mood or atmosphere being set up, it was basically just a bunch of flashbacks to pre-war times, which is pretty pointless because we all know the basic history of the Fallout world. There was no new revelation to be had, or mystery to be unraveled because it's basically just reiterating the set-up for the post-apocalyptic world that's been present from the beginning of the series.
Then the trailer jumped immediately to montages of Fallout-ish stuff, which is fine, but if you're going to go that route, give it some atmosphere/mood. Is it bleak and depressing? Is it darkly humorous? Gory? Channeling Sunset Overdrive? No idea, because it was just a bunch of images stuck together with no theme.
The only part that really got me intrigued/invested was the very ending with the PC greeting the dog, "let's go", and then the Fallout 4 logo. They could have played that angle up - here, this is you exploring the dangerous wasteland with your canine buddy, many adventures to be had... but that was it.
He's exactly right in saying that this trailer had almost zero substance - it was just a bunch of stuff. "It's Fallout! Here's a bunch of Fallout-ish stuff! Here's the War Never Changes speech! 50s music! Power armor!" Which, come to think of it, is basically what Fallout 3 was - a bunch of Fallout-ish stuff crammed together - but whatever.
But again, it's just a damn trailer. I think it's shit but I'm not particularly bothered by it, trailers are not necessarily representative of the final game. I'm just pointing out that it's not a very good trailer.
Welfare
Member
I don't know why, but I'm getting a Blue HUD feeling for this game.
Gnome Scat
Member
A game to surpass Metal Gear...
bananafactory
Banned
The problem with October is that only gives me a month with MGS
Gravy Boat
Member
You know that idiom doesn't mean anything, correct?
It's a reflexive psychological defense mechanism humans use to detach themselves from differing points of view in an attempt to claim that those with contrary ideas must be incapable of existing in a social framework outside of their opinion and thusly devaluing their worth as a human an based on their acceptance by a community.
It's effectively an attempt to dehumanize others. Interesting that my constructed opinions have had enough of an effect on your life that you have to attempt to break me down on a personal level in order to feel better about yourself.
Have you ever thought of the sheer cruelty of what you're doing there? That you need to attempt to bully and intimidate someone and make them feel like less of a human because of their Internet posted opinion? I'm sorry your moral center is so damaged, I hope it gets better someday. I'd suggest seeing a therapist.
Reading your posts reminds me of this guy
Analyse that as you wish.
That's exactly what he is saying though, which is why people are 'jumping on him'
Gormenghast
Member
If you listen to Bethesda Skyrim isn't even Gamebryo. But of course none of that is actually true. So.
Still looks like the same engine. If they ever coded something from scratch it would take them a LOT more time to reach the production phase, and the difference would be dramatic.
superNESjoe
Member
Is this legit, or a fake? What is the source of this?
You know that idiom doesn't mean anything, correct?
It's a reflexive psychological defense mechanism humans use to detach themselves from differing points of view in an attempt to claim that those with contrary ideas must be incapable of existing in a social framework outside of their opinion and thusly devaluing their worth as a human an based on their acceptance by a community.
It's effectively an attempt to dehumanize others. Interesting that my constructed opinions have had enough of an effect on your life that you have to attempt to break me down on a personal level in order to feel better about yourself.
Have you ever thought of the sheer cruelty of what you're doing there? That you need to attempt to bully and intimidate someone and make them feel like less of a human because of their Internet posted opinion? I'm sorry your moral center is so damaged, I hope it gets better someday. I'd suggest seeing a therapist.
I think you're taking your video games a bit seriously
Perfect description for this thread.
Its weird to read this after playing a modded NV for so long.
SprachBrooks
Member
I'm astounded after years of bullshots and publisher deception that people are complaining about an actual trailer that shows the game in a feasible presentation that they would achieve in time for release.
This is potentially a huge open-world game, we find The Witcher struggling to maintain a steady fps due to its advanced graphics and presentation yet people are already comparing the two. I have no interest in Fallout unfortunately but it's quite annoying that there are so many complaints about the graphics.
This is potentially a huge open-world game, we find The Witcher struggling to maintain a steady fps due to its advanced graphics and presentation yet people are already comparing the two. I have no interest in Fallout unfortunately but it's quite annoying that there are so many complaints about the graphics.
Tinfoilhatsron
Banned
Phone wallpaper for y'all
Bless your soul.
Zen_Arcade
Banned
It's not meant to dehumanize you. It's meant to say that you're an over reactive human that's being a total bummer for little to no reason. Which is exactly what you're being.You know that idiom doesn't mean anything, correct?
It's a reflexive psychological defense mechanism humans use to detach themselves from differing points of view in an attempt to claim that those with contrary ideas must be incapable of existing in a social framework outside of their opinion and thusly devaluing their worth as a human an based on their acceptance by a community.
It's effectively an attempt to dehumanize others. Interesting that my constructed opinions have had enough of an effect on your life that you have to attempt to break me down on a personal level in order to feel better about yourself.
Have you ever thought of the sheer cruelty of what you're doing there? That you need to attempt to bully and intimidate someone and make them feel like less of a human because of their Internet posted opinion? I'm sorry your moral center is so damaged, I hope it gets better someday. I'd suggest seeing a therapist.
It's literally no different then someone saying "Hey, you're over reacting."