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[AppleMIX]

What if the game is ugly because it's actually an MMO and all those people we thought were NPCs are actually other players

Maybe it is ugly because Bethesda made it.

 

[KKRT00]

I dont like style of it at all.

Except for volumetric light shafts, and being interested why there were two shadows from the dog in the building, it looks very underwhelming. LoD and textures are utterly terrible i would say.

Game will be probably great though.

 

[RPGCrazied]

Fallout 3 and New Vegas are not what last gen games were capable of.

No, but its a bethesda fallout game, on a PS3. Just saying they have came a long way with 4. Or from this trailer anyway. I think it looks leagues better than 3.

 

[munchie64]

"What's hyperbole and shit posting? Do you need me to dig out his history?"

Half of these posts you quoted are from a community thread I frequent where hyperbole and sarcasm is the name of the game. The two posts that are actually in this thread are essentially mimicking what was said exactly in this thread by people defending the graphics.

"graphics are okay because it's seamless open world with no loading"
"textures are fine because draw call is cpu-intensive" followed by gifs of people clapping
"lol gaf cant decide what they want, witcher 3 downgrade at least bethesda is honest!" as if the downgraded witcher 3 is comparable to the fallout 4 trailer

I'm invested in the Fallout world and I want a game that looks new and current, not something slightly better looking than Skyrim.

Why are you afraid of the quote button?

 

[Gestahl]

Yup the that really changed things in 3.

Yeah the only quest besides the bomb shit in Megaton was Moira's quest and they didn't even have the balls to cut that off. Consequences aren't a thing in Bethesda games

 

[-duskdoll-]

Boston accent. I found it a little funny. :/

Are you telling me there are people in America who talk like this and understand each other? xD

 

[Pooya]

I'm not worried about character creation. I'm more worried that they have a voiced protagonist this time. VA always has a deleterious effect on dialogue options.

It's not like their games had expansive dialog options before. 3, 4 choices tops. insome occasions maybe. NV added a lot of dialog options but FO3 and Skyrim were fairly standard good/eviI/I should go almost all the time. it will be fine.
Well there are cases where there is a NPC and it has info dump dialog options, In those case player character doesn't have to say much, just ask. Compared with other RPGs I think it's very doable for them to have a voiced MC.

 

[Darren_z33]

Watched the trailer again on Gamersyde, it looks great to me. I've been waiting for this for over 5 years, I don't care if the graphics could be better, I'll sink 150+ hours into this.

Hyped for E3

 

[Error]

Frankly it looks like a hi-res last gen game. Seems to me it was going to be cross-gen but then decided against it midway through development.

 

[cripterion]

This graphics backlash is bullshit.

I see this...

...and I'm ready to explore. It's beautiful. Give me a big fucking map of this and let me loose.

That looks pretty bad imo but to each his own.I frankly expected it to look more like this

Doesn't mean I'm not excited to explore the world though. Hopefully we get details on the combat soon.

 

[Dynasty8]

Fallout 3 never looked all that nice...even in 2008's standards.

This never bothered me, the game was still great.

 

[PensivePen]

People are going to need to realize that even barring hardware limitations, at some point making a game look considerably better is just going to be too expensive and time consuming to be worthwhile. That'll only change if there's some major revolution in development.

 

[Dennis]

I think my main issue with the graphics is the low resolution textures.

But luckily that is one the things the modding community does best to fix.

I don't thing this looks like state of the art graphics but it is not too shabby.

 

[RootCause]

Fallout 3 and New Vegas are not what last gen games were capable of.

So you want to compare it to the likes of uncharted, God of war? Corridor games. Eh, not the most fairest of comparisons.

 

[Wilsongt]

You have my attention, Bugthesda. But I am gonna wait a little wait after this releases to pick it up... I'm not gonna get burned like I did with Skyrim PS3 and that glitchy mess.

 

[bobbychalkers]

Game looks great to me, its not cutting edge but there are a lot of small details. I like that its a lot more colorful now. I'm more concerned with how many bugs will need squashing by launch.

 

[PnCIa]

But luckily that is one the things the modding community does best to fix.

For a price!

 

[Salsa]

I think my main issue with the graphics is the low resolution textures.

But luckily that is one the things the modding community does best to fix.

it's definetly THE biggest issue, and it reminds me of GTAV on PS360, which makes me think about a scrapped cross-gen even more

 

[Gator86]

This game is completely and utterly a cross-gen title. They might have cancelled those versions along the way( or shelving them for later release) but its pretty fucking obvious that this was originally a old gen title as well for a lot of time into development, and so the game will suffer a lot because of that. Everyone celebrating " no cross-gen woo woo" should stop now.

There's a silver lining here though. If Bethesda was shooting for cross-gen and all we're getting are current gen and PC, maybe the game will run better. It should give them a little wiggle room, hopefully. The idea of Bethesda making a current gen only title and trying to push the systems' limits is a little worrying.

 

[Solid Samus]

it's definetly THE biggest issue, and it reminds me of GTAV on PS360, which makes me think about a scrapped cross-gen even more

I really wouldn't be surprised if there was a scrapped cross-gen version and I do think it would explain this game's visuals falling short to the level they do, quite nicely.

I just can't fathom the very idea of hamfistedly limiting what you could achieve with your flagship next gen open world RPG by designing it around ten year old constraints.

 

[BreezyLimbo]

People are going to need to realize that even barring hardware limitations, at some point making a game look considerably better is just going to be too expensive and time consuming to be worthwhile. That'll only change if there's some major revolution in development.

Mhm. As long as it's 60 fps and 1080p, then i'm fine with how the graphics are looking right now. I mean, it's a pipe dream I suppose...but hopefully they can reach that.

 

[Northeastmonk]

You can get Fallout 4 for $46.20 with code 23PERC-ENTOFF-48HOUR on GMG at the moment. I just did it.

http://www.greenmangaming.com/s/us/en/pc/games/action/fallout-4/

It's Fallout from Bethesda. Unless you get games for free from reviews or you're waiting for an actual review this is pretty good.

 

[McBryBry]

> Game Studio shows reasonable footage of what the game could look like.
>"THE FUCK, THIS ISN'T NEXT GEN"

>Game Studio shows a REALLY good looking, high graphic trailer.
>"Expect downgrade, no game looks that good."


My personal opinion? I think it looks fine for what I want. It's Fallout. It looks about what I expected, and I'm freakin pumped to dice into the world like I did with the last two. On female protagonist: I hope there's one in, only because I love the differences you can get in a different gender. But if it isn't included, I won't fret. They have obvious reasons, and if they want to heavily upgrade the story and that requires a male, that's fine. People saying look at Geralt are right in a sense. A staple, singular protagonist can make things much better for the story and characters.

 

[NullPointer]

Looks like Fallout 3 with better visuals.

The part where you were in a helicopter (or something lifting up into the air) looked new though. Are we going to get more vertical this time around?

So yeah, it looks like more Fallout, but more Fallout ain't a bad thing.

 

[Bloody Unicorn]

And can look a bit better:

[/QUOTE]

Those red awnings remind me of the lighting effects from RAGE, I wonder if they borrowed some of that.

 

[Pooya]

well, they released better textures for Skyrim on PC, they might do it again. Adding HBAO+ is doable too, those should make it look a lot better. Now animations and character models though..

 

[StealthGoblin]

Well at least this time the PlayStation versions shouldn't be the worst of the bunch.

Good marketing grab for Microsoft.

 

[Rushersauce]

Good, give the world some color for once so I don't have to look at brown desert for 100 hours.

Not good, it kills the atmosphere. Jesus, the game takes place 100 years after a nuclear war, might as well look like it.

 

[Agremont]

For a price!

What's all this about? Is there not going to be a free modding community anymore?

 

[Einchy]

So you want to compare it to the likes of uncharted, God of war? Corridor games. Eh, not the most fairest of comparisons.

Unity? Second Son? Witcher 3? Arkham Knight? To name a few.

There's plenty of open world games that look much better than Fallout 4.

 

[triplestation]

i always thought FO3 looked fine

but that wasnt the main point, i suppose

it delivered the best gaming atmosphere ive ever experienced though

so i think atmospheric improvements is what theyll push for mainly, which i prefer

sub par graphics for a more "alive" world >>>>

 

[UnwrittenZero]

Are you telling me there are people in America who talk like this and understand each other? xD

Boston accent is nothing go visit with a mountain man that's still carrying around confederate money or someone that lives in the swamp. Then you will walk away scratching your head.

 

[Aaron D.]

Ha!

Is that Fenway?

** please have the Citgo sign please have the Citgo sign please have the Citgo sign **

 

[c0de]

Reminds me a lot of Destiny (which isn't bad at all). Game doesn't look like it's pushing the graphics boundary, but I'm sure most people don't play Bethesda games for cutting edge graphics as others have posted.

Fallout never was a game that tried to push graphics, it always was unique and special in other disciplines.

 

[Summer Haze]

The graphics look fantastic here imo.

 

[NoRéN]

Thanks Bethesda. Looks like The Ink Spots are getting some plays today.

 

[DOWN]

It is a nice jump from Skyrim I guess, but as usual, Bethesda puts out some of the most dated visuals around.

It looks good enough to convey the art and atmosphere

 

[Raven77]

I'm not so worried about the graphics, I think it looks fine. I'm more concerned that this "new engine" they are using is not very capable and is going to make the next Elder Scrolls game seem very unimpressive visually by the time it comes out.

 

[Ke0]

?

Fallout 3 came out in 2008. 2/3 years after the last gens consoles were out

there were 5 more years of xbox 360 / PS3 games after that

im comparing it to something like GTAV, not fucking Fallout 3

GTAIV came out in 2008 also

doesnt GTAV on the same console look a hell of a lot fucking better?

And I can safely say GTAV doesn't have the level of object interactivity and permanency that Bethesda games have.

 

[BeekleMatter]

I'm not worried about character creation. I'm more worried that they have a voiced protagonist this time. VA always has a deleterious effect on dialogue options.

Is this confirmed anywhere or are we just assuming cuz he talked in the trailer then he's voiced? I really hope he isn't.

 

[NullPointer]

Good marketing grab for Microsoft.

Whats this? Do they have any exclusivity or timed exclusivity? Or is it one of those deals where the ads just going to pretend that only the Xbox version exists?

 

[Vamphuntr]

You can get Fallout 4 for $46.20 with code 23PERC-ENTOFF-48HOUR on GMG at the moment. I just did it.

http://www.greenmangaming.com/s/us/en/pc/games/action/fallout-4/

It's Fallout from Bethesda. Unless you get games for free from reviews or you're waiting for an actual review this is pretty good.

You should probably wait for the VIP deal before doing this or wait if they have some sort of CE with a season pass before.

 

[DrFunkatronic]

The animation seemed off, but other than that everything else looked great.

 

[Patchy]

Awfully dated visuals/poor animation.

Yep, it's a Bethesda game alright.

 

[Northeastmonk]

You should probably wait for the VIP deal before doing this or wait if they have some sort of CE with a season pass before.

I just got the e-mail. I wonder if they will do what they did with Fallout 3.

Believe!

 

[Bloody Unicorn]

Pre-order codes expire 10/31/15???

 

[TheAssist]

Really? People are already whining about graphics? In a fallout game?
Fuck me.

Fallout games were never famous for looking amazing. Actually they dont even play that amazing from a pure mechanical standpoint. So dont expect too much on that front.


Fallout is all about atmosphere and world building.

But yeah, you guys go ahead and discuss the texture quality and dog hair or whatever. I'll have some fun with this awfully downgraded witcher game.

 

[PensivePen]

Not good, it kills the atmosphere. Jesus, the game takes place 100 years after a nuclear war, might as well look like it.

The environment doesn't take nearly so long to recover from this sort of thing as some people believe. I'm also not sure why Nuclear war would wipe all color from the world.

 

[Solid Samus]

Unity? Second Son? Witcher 3? Arkham Knight? To name a few.

There's plenty of open world games that look much better than Fallout 4.

It's not as though it explains this game's graphical shortcomings, but like I've been reiterating, not all open world games are built equal or work to achieve quite the same things with their inner systems. Context matters. None of the games you cited besides maybe Witcher 3 are directly comparable to Fallout 3 for reasons that ought to be downright obvious.

Not good, it kills the atmosphere. Jesus, the game takes place 100 years after a nuclear war, might as well look like it.

This post is... ugh. How much do you know about Fallout? or about nuclear weapons and how they impact the environment? Read this.

because it's been over two hundred years since the war. and as ridiculous as I feel it was for Fallout's Capitol Wasteland to be coated in a nonsense green haze that can only be tenuously justified lore-wise, it ain't like Boston is the nation's capitol, so I doubt it got hit with quite as much shit anyway.

I mean, it's the same answer given every time that question is asked. it's a ridiculous question. there's a lot more context for Fallout's mood and atmosphere than just dank skies, which is why I never feel bad about removing the green or orange filters first thing before my Fallout 3/NV playthroughs.

i mean, it's only been, what, fifty, sixty years since world war 2, right?

how come when I go outside it's not a war torn wasteland, how come there's no dust in the sky, or rubble on the ground?

because it's been, what, fifty, sixty years since the war, right?

Why would the sky be green 200 years after the war? Why does the atmosphere of this RPG rely not on the context of the world, but entirely whether or not it's coated in a green filter? Like I noted earlier, that's the kind of vision of a post-apocalyptic stereotype that Homer Simpson would subscribe to. As someone who grew up on post apocalyptic media and myriad depictions in books, TV shows, and movies, that whole shit filter concept was to provide a sense of atmosphere which would make sense to the lowest common denominator, people who associate nuclear with radiation with green everything, no semblance of real world logic required.

Check this out, does this look like a damn stroll through the county park, just because it's not green?

I'm still seeing lots of atmosphere. If I were playing the game and talking to characters or shooting/surviving, I'd be feeling even more atmosphere. No filter required.

 

[bender]

it's definetly THE biggest issue, and it reminds me of GTAV on PS360, which makes me think about a scrapped cross-gen even more

I'm more worried about character animation. I like playing in 3rd person view though.