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[Mobius and pet octopus]

I was just playing through new vegas a few weeks ago. I remember thinking, this game still looks great and that the next gen version doesn't need to be a huge leap due to the art style. I'm more concerned about the things that actually make fallout a fallout game, which are the communities, reputation mechanics, story, and the heavy rpg elements.

Graphics aren't the foremost importance in the series. And the whole "I demand better" menality

... fair enough. Don't buy it then.

 

[RK9039]

..
guys im really trying here

Is the orange stuff in the background fire?

 

[velociraptor]

This looks like a PS3 title.

 

[Gemüsepizza]

I mean I get it. They have shit assets and they can't just make them nextgen without a massive rework. Ok. But what about things like shader effects, lighting? Stuff like this shouldn't be that hard. Sigh.

 

[BLunted]

Real nice...
So you basically want a hype thread with no criticism or opinions varying from yours. Ok.

No I would like a thread for actual discussion about the game, not shitposting. They did it for Witcher 3. Not like there isn't a precedent.

 

[z3phon]

Why is nobody talking about the airship?

No, seriously, why is nobody talking about the airship?

Because look at the graphics!!!!

Lol seriously that's exactly what I was interested in hearing people discuss. So many interesting small things in the trailer, can't wait for them to show some gameplay soon.

 

[Warablo]

I am confused, are the cut-scenes representation of the graphics? Because the gameplay segments look much better.

 

[bananafactory]

No I would like a thread for actual discussion about the game, not shitposting. They did it for Witcher 3. Not like there isn't a precedent.

There's a separate thread for discussing the actual game. This one is basically about graphics now

 

[Juxo]

Thankfully I've never played Fallout for the graphics. Seriously excited to roam around the wasteland again! I just hope loading screens are kept to a minimum. It's the one thing that really bothers me with Fallout/Elder Scrolls.

 

[Funky Papa]

This is Bethesda as fuck.

I've defended the look of the game quite a bit, but at the same time I'm tempted to avatarize it.

Fake edit: Fuck it. Run with it.

 

[funking giblet]

Hey this looks bad! Right, next opinion please? Jesus Christ...

 

[Kid Ska]

No I would like a thread for actual discussion about the game, not shitposting. They did it for Witcher 3. Not like there isn't a precedent.

http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1056456

 

[KKRT00]

Is Homefront open world? Serious question, I don't know much about it. Either way I like the look of Fallout 4 more already.

I mean, do we know for sure that Homefront's screens aren't bullshots? As someone mentioned above, is the game even open world?

Yeah, fully open world.
And we even have gameplay video of it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tujh2fnATK4

 

[Salsa]

lets blame gaf and not devs

if a thread turns to one direction so heavily maybe there's a reason. there's posts on the first page about this

you guys should browse the "hype hype hype circlejerk" forums

 

[Stiler]

Regarding graphics and gameplay, I think Kevin VanOrd said it best on his twitter:

"I have many feelings about ideas like these, one of which is that things we call "gameplay" are often "graphics."

Gameplay specifics like locomotion are often dependent on animations, which are, of course, "graphics."

Moreover, when a game relies on world-building, aesthetics and visual specifics are vital to its success.

These things are not separate entities; games are sums of their parts, and I think it is OK to have opinions on both the parts and the whole. "

This was in response to Colin Moriarty:
https://twitter.com/notaxation/status/606113105727373313

"People are complaining about Fallout 4's graphics. Remember when GAMEPLAY was what made a game good or bad? Oh yeah. That's still the case."

Graphics, especially when it comes to a game like Fallout, or Skyrim, or any open world game that's meant to "immerse" you into its world and characters/story does play a part in the "gameplay" and adds to the overall game, it's some side-thing, separated from the gameplay.

Horrible graphics, terrible animations, can really sap the fun out of the story, the emotions the characters are meant to portray, etc.

I mean (and I know people are using this game a lot because it just came out) the Witcher 3.

The Bloody Baron's storyline, the emotion evoked through the characters face/animations, you will absolutely miss that in games like Skyrim because the graphics simply don't, or rather can't, portray that kind of emotion in the detail it's needed.

 

[Summer Haze]

The woman in the middle has that "scared run" animation from Fallout 3/NV, it's identical.

Holy shit, I didn't notice that. :/

Replacing those awful animations should have been the top priority for Bethesda. It's the number one thing I wanted improving.

 

[RandyBobandy]

It looks ok.

I mean, I'm psyched as fuck, but the visuals are not great. Not for a current gen game anyway

 

[shrek]

I saw the screenshots from the trailer first, and to be completely honest I thought they were some kind of joke or mod.

 

[TronLight]

Oh god...you're right. :/

Holy shit, I didn't notice that. :/

Replacing those awful animations should have been the top priority for Bethesda. It's the number one thing I wanted improving.

Glad that wasn't just an impression. :lol
I rewatched the trailer and most running and walking animations are lifted straigh up from 3. I wouldn't mind if they were good but they really aren't.

 

[Devilgunman]

Goddammit Bethesda, you had one job. And you blew it. Preorder cancelled.

Even a poor npc lady feels sorry of this game

 

[TheUnsunghero26]

OK, this looks pretty awesome.

 

[Hyperzephyrian]

Is the orange stuff in the background fire?

Trees in autumn.

 

[BLunted]

There's a separate thread for discussing the actual game. This one is basically about graphics now

very good then. I'll look for it.

ty

EDIT: I was actually in that thread, and didnt know that was what you were referring to

 

[Lautaro]

Lol i'm not threatened by other people's opinion, but i'm tired of seeing the same things being said over and over again by the same people. They already said they don't like it, that the trailer was underwhelming, that it's crap compared to game x,y,z. I'm trying to discuss the game but 50% of the posts are screenshot comparisons to every damn game there is. It's annoying.

That's fair, I guess. I also wanted to know if the line at the end of the trailer meant that we now have a voiced character but my question was buried.

EDIT: oh there's other thread, apparently it would be confirmed.

 

[ShyGuy0504]

The game looks about how I expected it to graphically.

This is most likely running on a slightly modified version of the engine that Skyrim ran on. So basically still just Gamebryo.

But I'm happy that this doesn't seem to be a crossgen title. Not having to design this game around systems that only have 512MB of RAM should allow significant improvements over Bethesda's previous games.

I'm hoping this means it'll have a lot less loading screens.

I'll be playing on PC and I'm already excited thinking about the mods.

 

[xlordxerxes]

I am so ready to go back to the wasteland

 

[Evo X]

Wow, that dog sure would look nice with Nvidia Fur Tech.

 

[Zombie James]

This looks like a PS3 title.

 

[batfax]

All I want at this point is for them to take some cues from NV for quest design, stomp that rumor about no female playable character, and please keep in SPECIAL and don't go Skyrim's route with attributes.

 

[Dennis]

Remember when we were worried the graphics would suffer if the game was crossgen?

Well, looks like Bethesda solved that problem amirite guise

 

[Alienous]

Even a poor npc lady feels sorry of this mess

She should be sad. She's a character from the Sims 2 and suddenly the world has gone to shit.

 

[Kid Ska]

Yeah, if we get less loading screens (none at all???? lol) and large, fully explorable buildings all around then I can probably shrug off the fact that there is a whole lot to desire design and graphics wise from what we've seen.

 

[Valkerionseven]

Could have been worse, another "in engine" trailer and I would have lost it. Least this is is honest

Spoiler

sadly

but as long as the world is on point as much as 3 was, i'm willing to stay positive.

 

[Salsa]

This was in response to Colin Moriarty:
https://twitter.com/notaxation/status/606113105727373313

this guy works in the game industry?

 

[cripterion]

Is the orange stuff in the background fire?

Well at least it provides good cover. Imagine trying to snipe someone's head off through that shit.

And lol at game journalists reaction. You give people a reveal trailer, of course the graphics are going to be the first thing you talk about. Wanna talk about gameplay? Give us a fucking E3 demo or shut up

 

[jett]

Yeah, Homefront is actually great example:
I mean this:

vs

Difference in detail is staggering.

It's kind of hilarious that Homefront looks better than Fallout 4. Bethesda really should invest a bit in technology. Maybe they thought that's what they were doing when they bought id? Guess it didn't work out too hot for them if they did.

 

[water_wendi]

The graphics look fine for this type of open world game. The trailer didnt really wow me but its probably just my expectations of Bethesda.

 

[Kid Ska]

this guy works in the game industry?

https://twitter.com/JeffGrubb/status/606116540107255808

 

[PurpleSquid]

It's kind of hilarious that Homefront looks better than Fallout 4. Bethesda really should invest a bit in technology. Maybe they thought that's what they were doing when they bought id? Guess it didn't work out too hot for them if they did.

... i actually like the FO4 shot more... its not all brown and shit. i do admit that the animations in 4 don't look great though, ill give you that.

 

[SargerusBR]

I can't tell who is serious in this thread anymore

 

[-duskdoll-]

That's fair, I guess. I also wanted to know if the line at the end of the trailer meant that we now have a voiced character but my question was buried.

Probably, i mean why else have it in the trailer? I don't really like the idea though, i don't know how immersive it will be because i always like to pretend the character is me in RPG games.

 

[ElTorro]

If the graphics turn out to be shite, at least there is hope that performance will be stable.

 

[Evo X]

So who's taking bets that modded Skyrim will look better than Elder Scrolls 6?

 

[velociraptor]

Fallout 3 never looked all that nice...even in 2008's standards.

This never bothered me, the game was still great.

Those graphics are not too out of place for that era. It looks 'OK' for an open world game.

 

[Octavianus]

This is Bethesda as fuck.

[edit]

Bethesda must be using the same people that did the humans for Pixar in Toy Story.

Amazing. Best looking game I've ever seen. Bethesda is our saviour.

 

[Bloody Unicorn]

... i actually like the FO4 shot more... its not all brown and shit. i do admit that the animations in 4 don't look great though, ill give you that.

Ditto... remember all of the comments about FO3 being too dull and washed out looking. Seems like they were listening!

 

[Ganzlinger]

this guy works in the game industry?

Can't tell if serious. lol

But here is a serious question: is there cars in Fallout?

 

[Skateboard P]

Have they confirmed the city where this iteration takes place?! That looks like Boston to me.
I saw the gold dome of the state building and what looks like a Paul Revere statue.

 

[LegalEagleMike]

I can't tell who is serious in this thread anymore

 

[Aizo]

I didn't know that GAF cared so much about graphics. Jeez. It may not look as good as some other games, but why is that so problematic? Aren't you interested in playing it? Also, playing on PC will alleviate these issues, if it really means that much to you.