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I'm finally starting to move on a little, after breaking up with the girlfriend. It really took its toll on me, more than any prior breakup had done.

At least I'm able to do normal everyday stuff, like watching TV and playing games but for a little time only, until my mind wonders elsewhere.

It's just a little weird to be single after 3 years again.
 
So my first real date has been delayed, said she's tied up tonight. Though might meet later in the evening for drinks. Kinda sucks since my work schedule sucks for the next month and am only free like one day other than this.
 
I'm really needing help right now GAF, I don't know who to talk to about this.

Its been 2 months since I've been broken up with by this girl I was in a relationship for about 4-5 months, but spent time together daily for around 7. She wants to focus on her future rather than a boyfriend.

She had fallen in love with me from the beginning, and my love only flourished after I had realized I really wanted to be with her, when she broke up with me the first time. I won her back before Valentine's day, confessing my feelings completely. I thought it would be okay but I had friends tell me nothing good would come of it, albeit I was heartbroken once again.

Here I am now feeling completely alone and depressed. She told me she wanted to be friends with me and we've made love a handful of times since the break-up. She's told me she missed me and has wanted me to cuddle on multiple occasions. Of course I caved in. She let me know how upset she was that I didn't go to one of her important dance events saying that she thought she wouldn't care but really did. How lonely she feels. I coaxed it out of her that she wanted to maybe get back together after my trip to Norway in July, she wants me to meet a Norwegian girl. It sounds like a way out for her to meet new people. This really offended me. I regret every time I make her tell me her feelings, because it only gives me expectations. She never cares to ask me how I feel.

Now she is back to barely talking with me and I can't stand it for some reason. She invited me to dinner the other night at her new house which I had wanted to live with her in. She told me about her prom plans (she's only 18, I'm 23) to propose it to one of her girl friends. This only hurts me because I wanted to be there for these things.

The night over at her house I had seen her messages on her phone asking other guys to hang out. High school guys she meets at the grad parties. She doesn't ask me to hang out unless it's the day-of. This really hurts me even though it is none of my business. I feel played and don't know what to do now. Friends tell me to meet new girls but I don't want a relationship right now, I'm trying to move away to get away from this and learn in the school I applied to.

The big problem is that we work together and I am always frustrated and angry with her. I sometimes have to be around her when she's texting someone. She doesn't care to fix things with me. I feel like she doesn't care about my feelings now. I've truly never been so hurt and unhappy, I know things will get better eventually and I know I should just be doing things that make me happy but all my friends have moved away, and it feels impossible to make new ones.

My friend who has been through something similar tells me to completely ignore her. But it is so hard for me to do that, to rid my feelings of her. Like she has of me.

I truly feel unlike myself, I've lost so much motivation. I'm expecting my month-long trip to Norway visiting my best friend in July to change my perspective on things. I just don't know how to react to her now.
 
That sounds rough. I'd look for a new job, so you don't have to see her all the time. Other than that, there's not much you can do. Sounds like she's moving on and you should too.
 
I won't be able to find new work until after my trip. I've asked my boss to schedule us apart for now

I feel like hating her for making me so unhappy. She told me she is heartbroken too, but not like me.

Maybe it's better though, I shouldn't be depending on an 18 year-old to make me happy. This runs so much deeper and I realize it.
 
Not gonna be what you wanna hear, might even ignore my (and the people that will follow) advice, but cut off contact completely. Block her number. Block her on social. Don't talk to her at work. Pretend she doesn't even exist.

This won't be easy, but the sooner you starting doing this, the better off you will be. You are young as hell, there are plenty of women out there. Just take some time off to get over her and then dive back in the dating game.
 
Not gonna be what you wanna hear, might even ignore my (and the people that will follow) advice, but cut off contact completely. Block her number. Block her on social. Don't talk to her at work. Pretend she doesn't even exist.

This won't be easy, but the sooner you starting doing this, the better off you will be. You are young as hell, there are plenty of women out there. Just take some time off to get over her and then dive back in the dating game.
It's what two of my friends told me to do much earlier on. I think now I will be able to do it. Cut her off completely.

I just have this feeling of wanting her to message me, to text me, and give me attention. and I hate that feeling. The dependence. I don't want to give her the last laugh like I feel I have already.

Damn, she's only 18. Nothing wrong with that, but your posted makes it sounds like both of you are a bit older.
She's a lot more mature than I in terms of being in a relationship. But is still a child when it comes to everything else. It seems in the last 5 months she really matured and I really became attracted to that. Before I felt I didn't need her because of how young she is and that was very unfair of me, as she felt I never truly loved her. My love grew over time, hers happened in an instant. Maybe it's also unfair of her to expect so much from me as well.
 
Well, yeah, it has only been two months since the break up. It is perfectly normal and reasonable to feel that way. But, hanging out with her, cuddling with her, talking to her, that doesn't help out anything.
 
It's what two of my friends told me to do much earlier on. I think now I will be able to do it. Cut her off completely.

I just have this feeling of wanting her to message me, to text me, and give me attention. and I hate that feeling. The dependence. I don't want to give her the last laugh like I feel I have already.


She's a lot more mature than I in terms of being in a relationship. But is still a child when it comes to everything else. It seems in the last 5 months she really matured and I really became attracted to that. Before I felt I didn't need her because of how young she is and that was very unfair of me, as she felt I never truly loved her. My love grew over time, hers happened in an instant. Maybe it's also unfair of her to expect so much from me as well.

You really have to stop looking at dating as some competition. You didn't lose and she didn't win. That's why you can't get past or because you feel it's some game you have to win. It's not a game and it's not something you have to win

Well, yeah, it has only been two months since the break up. It is perfectly normal and reasonable to feel that way. But, hanging out with her, cuddling with her, talking to her, that doesn't help out anything.
Pretty much, instead of moving past the dependence you created you're reliving it constantly.
 
I know I've only prolonged my unhappiness. I really regret it now. It's just so hard to remove feelings from someone... I've never experienced it or believed in it.

I know it isn't a game. But I want to be strong, she seems perfectly okay with working with me. With wanting to hang out as friends. And I can't understand it. Why do I have to be miserable? I am finally realizing it isn't worth it because I can't enjoy our time together, I can't be myself. I need to stop. I feel like I've given her satisfaction, in fucking with my feelings.
 
Couple other of things:

Stop feeling "played" because she doesn't ask to hang out. You are her ex, of course she isn't going to be eager to hang out with you.

"She doesn't care about my feelings.". Again, you are her ex. Your feelings aren't a concern to her anymore.

"Doesn't want to fix things." Just because you two dated, doesn't mean she is required to try and fix anything.

"She seems OK." Don't pretend to know how people seem/feel, man. People handle things differently. She might very well be OK and has moved on for the most part. Or she is hiding it well. You thinking that she is OK is eating you up.

Sorry if this comes off as harsh. We have all been there at one point or another. I went through it last year. Trust me, you will be fine and the world will survive.
 
Had a really great date tonight. Talked over drinks for a few hours. She seemed to have a good time too, going to try to schedule dinner for next week.
 
Couple other of things:

Stop feeling "played" because she doesn't ask to hang out. You are her ex, of course she isn't going to be eager to hang out with you.
I only feel played because she keeps changing her mind with me, doesn't know what she wants. Tells me she misses me etc.

Thanks for the advice.
 
I only feel played because she keeps changing her mind with me, doesn't know what she wants. Tells me she misses me etc.

Thanks for the advice.
She knows what she wants, not you. It's harsh but she doesn't want you, she just likes the attention that you're more than willing to come running to her and give her.
 
Just letting ya'll know, I'm rooting for everyone posting their experiences. Trying to learn a bit as well.

I'm trying to get out more, going to a rock show tonight and hoping to at least be comfortable if not actually outgoing. We shall see.
 
GAF, i've met some girl on Tinder few weeks ago. We chatted a lot before our first date. And then i asked her out to some artst event. It was nice and everything, but i was nervous, so i did drink a lot of vodka, then we've gone to a party(don remember what was here), then she gone with me to my friend's apartment(he had some party) and i snorted some amphetamine there, chatted some more. Then she ordered Uber car, and i asked if i could kiss her, but she said — only cheek.
After that we chatted as before, everyday. But i managed to meet her just once since then. Tommorow i gonna see her ar some party. She's going with friends and so i am. Does she like me like a friend? What should i do?

Please forgive me for my poor english skills.
 
Got a minor dilemma, asked a girl I met at a coffee shop out on a date for this weekend...I think she's ~19..I'm 26. It's a first date so whatever, but I wonder how chemistry will be, we'll see! haha
 
GAF, i've met some girl on Tinder few weeks ago. We chatted a lot before our first date. And then i asked her out to some artst event. It was nice and everything, but i was nervous, so i did drink a lot of vodka, then we've gone to a party(don remember what was here), then she gone with me to my friend's apartment(he had some party) and i snorted some amphetamine there, chatted some more. Then she ordered Uber car, and i asked if i could kiss her, but she said — only cheek.
After that we chatted as before, everyday. But i managed to meet her just once since then. Tommorow i gonna see her ar some party. She's going with friends and so i am. Does she like me like a friend? What should i do?

Please forgive me for my poor english skills.

The information you provided is just general situations, so it's hard to tell. It's possible that it went better or worse depending on specific details. But I'll give you some general observations, which will hopefully be helpful to others here as well.

"Chatted a lot before first date": This is a pretty risky strategy; I generally frown on this as do some others here. The reason is that sexual attraction is, by and large, not built from prolonged conversation, especially not over text where you do not have body language to assist. Not only that, but the more you say over text, the more likely you will say something that will either upset her or turn her off. Thus, depending on exactly how your conversations went, it's possible you already blew it here.

"I was nervous and I drank a lot of vodka": From this I infer that you're on the younger side and maybe not super experienced with dating. When I see guys do this, more often than not they end up making an ass of themselves. So again, this is something I'd watch out for. Drink a little to loosen up if you really need it.

"She went with me to my friend's apartment party": Again, I generally advise against this move. You go from a one-on-one situation (desirable) to a situation where there are probably other guys who want to / will talk to her, and other people distracting you. When you "snorted some amphetamine" did you do it with her? Or did you leave her with other people while you did it with friends? Any time not spent furthering your own connection with her will work against your cause. Of course, at a party you can't hang with her all the time since that would seem clingy, which is why parties are just not a good venue for dates.

"She ordered an Uber car": Translation "I really want to get out of here now." Did you drive her there? Why didn't she ask you to take her back? Even if you didn't have transport, she could have suggested that the two of you go somewhere else. This already signals to me that she's not into you, she's not having a good time and just wants to leave.

"Asked if I could kiss her but she said only cheek": Well, this is probably something we've all done at some point, and it's a tricky situation that took me a while to figure out. So here's the deal: asking will never increase your chances of success. The only reason to ask is if you're can't tell if she's interested from her body language, so you ask because you don't want to make a move and she's not interested. But ideally, you want to learn to read body language and then you never need to ask. By the way, "only cheek" translates to "I really don't want you to kiss me but I feel bad rejecting you outright / risk upsetting you so let's do cheek to get you off my back."

"After we chatted every day but only met up once": This is all pretty vague but I would guess you initiated most/all of the convo, she's clearly not interested romantically at this point, and maybe not even a friendship. Again, your specific situation could be different, I'm just giving general observations.

"Tomorrow I'm going to a party and she's there with friends": She will likely just make polite chitchat if anything. I would cut my losses at this point and try talking to new girls at the party. It's much easier to get a new girl interested than salvaging a situation with a girl you've already screwed up with.
 
Also a blog I found which may be of interest to you guys: 30 days of Online Dating

This girl goes on 30 dates in 30 days using 5 online dating sites. Start with date 1 on page 2. It's a really long read, but there are some great nuggets of insight to a girl's perspective when it comes to not only messaging, but what happens on the dates themselves. For example, there was a guy from Match she calls "Match Nathan" whom she does not like at all. Some excerpts:

RULE #3: SAY YES TO SOMEONE WHO IS CLEARLY NOT YOUR TYPE

Match Nathan texts two days before our date.

Match Nathan texts the day before our date.

Match Nathan texts again the day of. All of them cheesy. All of them dad jokes. This is not going to end well.

Date goes pretty meh, she's still not interested, their text convo afterwards:

MN: You are seriously beautiful and fun. Thanks for hanging with me! Can I interest you in some theater tickets next week?

Welp.

RULE #6: NO BAILING ON A DATE OR A GUY UNLESS THERE IS A REALLY, REALLY, REALLY GOOD REASON

(Also, THEATER TICKETS. This sort of feels like a bribe. Then again, aren't most dates if you really sit down and think about it for a second?)

....

Me: I had so much fun! Thanks for a rollicking good time. And consider me interested!

She agrees despite having no interest in the guy. Second date goes horrible:

MN: Want to go grab a drink?

I take full responsibility for this part. I didn't know what to do. I panicked. I had already revealed that my tomorrow was empty. What's my excuse? I'm having a terrible time, despite the fact that you're a nice guy who planned what should have been a delightful evening? I can't say that. So instead, I say yes. Yes, I would love to continue on this four and a half hour (so far) nightmare of a ride.

It's funny because a lot of what she says is completely opposite of how she actually feels, so sometimes it's really important to read a girl's body language instead of just taking her words at face-value.
 
Also a blog I found which may be of interest to you guys: 30 days of Online Dating

This girl goes on 30 dates in 30 days using 5 online dating sites. Start with date 1 on page 2. It's a really long read, but there are some great nuggets of insight to a girl's perspective when it comes to not only messaging, but what happens on the dates themselves. For example, there was a guy from Match she calls "Match Nathan" whom she does not like at all. Some excerpts:



Date goes pretty meh, she's still not interested, their text convo afterwards:



She agrees despite having no interest in the guy. Second date goes horrible:



It's funny because a lot of what she says is completely opposite of how she actually feels, so sometimes it's really important to read a girl's body language instead of just taking her words at face-value.

This blog is fascinating. Thanks for posting it.
 
It's funny because a lot of what she says is completely opposite of how she actually feels, so sometimes it's really important to read a girl's body language instead of just taking her words at face-value.

This story... Oh my... This is why I always assume a person's not interested, even when they were engaged to me...
 
So.....



Does anyone have any experiences with trying out an open relationship? Or taking a break from a relationship to see other people with the hope that you would get back together at a later time?

I'm in an open relationship. Have been in open relationships (or friend with benefits) since my 20s. I'm 39.
First, there's a big difference between starting it from scratch and "transforming" a normal relationship into an open one. In my experience the latter never works out, which means in three to six months someone in the couple is going to have a major freak out and will want to reinstate the previous "arrangement" of exclusivity, unless of course we are talking about couples over 40 with children and where both are employed.
If you are doing this to not loose your girlfriend completely, I'll tell you right now it's the most painful way imaginable to detach yourself/ create some-but-not-too-much distance. If you need your freedom but you don't want to completely renounce partnership/ friendship with her, it may work out but again let's stress out the fact that the jealousy backlash may be overwhelming and make you do or say things which will drive her away forever.
When I was 29 I took a creative writing class. My professor was the director of a theatre company and had actresses (and girls in my class) fawning over him every day. He spoke candidly about the fact that he tried an open relationship with his ex wife and that he couldn't keep up with her, because he could have, say, two girls a week while the wife could get laid almost every day. This is a guy who was VERY confident and had plenty of girls all over him, still he was more concerned with his wife having more partners rather than being concerned with his own happiness/ freedom/ pleasures.
I have a friend who is a swinger and he says that if he'd get an euro for every single guy who left a party or freaked out during a party screaming "I DIDN'T THOUGHT YOU'D LIKE IT!!" to the wife, he would be a very rich man by now XD.
That being said, all the time I've spent in open relationships I have never, NEVER, seen a girl maintaining a relationship with more than 2 guys at once. I think that while a girl in an open relationship may be free to do as she likes without the boyfriend getting a jealousy fit, she still has to face the expectations of parents, friends, people at the workplace and so and so on, so any number higher than 2 is usually a prolific spawn of her imagination. To make the boyfriend jealous.
Another issue is The Rules, which affect both type of open relationships, the ones that just started and the ones where you give up exclusivity. Personally I think that the very moment you need rules for an open relationship, you are not in an open relationship anymore. Then again, if she starts to date your friends (or your siblings) you can't really complain about it because you never told her that that would be out of the equation.
So if you have a very clear picture in your mind of what your jealousy threshold is, by all means set some rules for the both of you (or accept them from her), otherwise just go with the flow and face your karma: you might find out something new about yourself, and what you like, and what jealousy really means to you.
Keep in mind that the first thing a girl is going to do in an open relationship is try out different people to see how you will take it, to see if you can put your money where your mouth is. Now, if she is even in the slightest a manipulative girl, giving her rules will only make it easier for her to find your breaking point, while if she is for real about her need for an open relationship the existence of rules will make her more comfortable.
And prepare yourself for the backlash from your friends/ relatives because they will never stop giving you shit about it, while at the same time hitting on her non-stop and right in front of you, since they will assume that she is in an open relationship because she is "easy".
Good luck, guardian ;D

A coworker told me to my face that she doesn't like me and thinks I'm an asshole. Does she want it?

She likes you.
Do you like her?
If you do, "... well, this is the weirdest way a girl has ever tried to talk to me". Turn your back to her, then sometimes later during the day you talk to her like she is your best friend. She will stay silent at the start and then relax, if you keep your cool and show her that you are not affected by her show of anger.
If you don't, tell her that you have never done anything wrong to her and that she doesn't get to talk to you like that. Say it with a flat voice and keep calm and she will leave you alone.
Don't get angry at her, or even worst apologize for something you don't even know you said or did, because that is what she wants. I think she is one of those people who think introverts mind their own business out of spite for others.
 
Also a blog I found which may be of interest to you guys: 30 days of Online Dating

Very interesting! Thanks for sharing.

Something she did that I figure I'd comment on, she set tons of search filters on okcupid, and a lot of times this isn't a good idea. I've talked to girls who don't have kids, don't smoke, aren't religious, etc, but don't have those boxes checked, and if you set those filters it excludes them. Better to set fewer filters and go by match %, which will in turn filter based on questions they've answered.

A coworker told me to my face that she doesn't like me and thinks I'm an asshole. Does she want it?

Um... no probably not. Not sure if you are being serious here.
 
Been dating a girl for little over half a year now. Not the first time we've been in a fight. Anyways I called her out because I said I was going out of town and I wanted to see her once more before leaving. She was hesitant and said she'll see if she was free. Come the last day before leaving and she casually text me. I asked her what she was up to and she simply was having drinks and watching the games with her friends.

I was pissed. I pretty much said you couldn't tell me you were at least doing that? It was common courtesy. Or how you couldn't change plans because you already had this on lock? You had all weekend to be with them. I'm sure they'd understand if you changed plans on them to see me. Her only response was it wasn't her fault I was going out of town for my sister's graduation. Seriously? How selfish of her. I told her she only wanted to see me when I was a convenience to her and that's not how this relationship works.

She haven't responded yet. I'm assuming she doesn't care and I'm takin it that we're breaking up. I'm tired of her shit anyways. But how long do you think I should give her before I demand a response. It's been 2 days and not a word.
 
Sometimes I feel like responding to some of the post here on what I think, but I feel like hypocrite doing so because I don't have any experience with relationships, which is strange because I am a firm believer that unbiased opinions are what we need to hear.

GAF always says what needs to be said, not what we want to hear.
 
Got a minor dilemma, asked a girl I met at a coffee shop out on a date for this weekend...I think she's ~19..I'm 26. It's a first date so whatever, but I wonder how chemistry will be, we'll see! haha

I mean yeah it's a decently big age gap, but the only way of finding out if you fit together is by meeting in person.
 
Having never kissed anyone, this is something I worry about a lot. The "rules" of kissing vary with each different person and situation. That just makes it even more daunting.

I dated a girl recently who was awful at kissing. She asked me to teach her, and I did, and it was unbelievably hot.

Not sure if girls feel the same, though.
 
But how long do you think I should give her before I demand a response. It's been 2 days and not a word.

Ew, sounds like a crappy relationship. Hell, it's been two days? Go ahead and demand her response now. She shouldn't be pulling that jazz if you two have been dating for half a year.

Sometimes I feel like responding to some of the post here on what I think, but I feel like hypocrite doing so because I don't have any experience with relationships, which is strange because I am a firm believer that unbiased opinions are what we need to hear.

GAF always says what needs to be said, not what we want to hear.

Unbiased and opinions are two words that simply don't work together. :p Everyone here speaks from their own experiences and preferences. That's awesome, because then questions get answered from a variety of perspectives. With things like relationships, there's never a one size fits all solution, so having different opinions is great.

I mean, some of my relationship-type experience is seriously lacking, but I try to offer my opinions when I can. And sometimes my view on things are completely off the mark compared to what most of the others say, too. It happens. :p
 
I mean, some of my relationship-type experience is seriously lacking, but I try to offer my opinions when I can. And sometimes my view on things are completely off the mark compared to what most of the others say, too. It happens. :p

Yeah, this is usually the way it is for me. I mean, I really often find myself doing the complete opposite of what works for everyone else and end up having it work out relatively well.

Hell, just this week I finally went on a date with a person who I had been having a conversation on OKC with for about three weeks and it went quite well. I think we exchanged like 2,000+ messages back and forth before setting up a date. I think that's about 1,990 more messages than the recommended amount before moving on.
 
I think we exchanged like 2,000+ messages back and forth before setting up a date. I think that's about 1,990 more messages than the recommended amount before moving on.
Yup this seems familiar. One of the most awesome time I ever had in my life included so much texting. I totally feel for you here :)

Eventually everything crashed and burned and that's less great. Don't do that please.
 
"Asked if I could kiss her but she said only cheek":
@realalbedo

Yeah, don't do this. Get rejected if you have to, just don't ask for permission. I totally get the need to do it but it doesn't have the effect its supposed to. Also, I fully agree with everything vicissitudes said.
 
Well 2+ year relationship officially on a "break" Not sure if I want a real break up or not. My emotions and feelings are all over the place.

But for the time being, I am single.

I need those pro tinder strats. I hear thats what all the kids use these days.
 
Well 2+ year relationship officially on a "break" Not sure if I want a real break up or not. My emotions and feelings are all over the place.

But for the time being, I am single.

I need those pro tinder strats. I hear thats what all the kids use these days.

If you mean looking for a hookup, good luck with that. In my experience, I've never seen a girl there who explicitly said she's looking for just a hookup.
 
She haven't responded yet. I'm assuming she doesn't care and I'm takin it that we're breaking up. I'm tired of her shit anyways. But how long do you think I should give her before I demand a response. It's been 2 days and not a word.
Sounds like you are already done and fine with it. If so, just let it be. If you want to continue seeing her, call her and tell what you think. I feel after six months you are in a real relationship and she could at least let you know it is over.

Well 2+ year relationship officially on a "break" Not sure if I want a real break up or not. My emotions and feelings are all over the place.

But for the time being, I am single.

I need those pro tinder strats. I hear thats what all the kids use these days.
A break is mostly just the introduction to break up. I mean, why would you decide to not see each other for a while if the relationship is going well.

Feel the Tinder hype has died down a little lately btw. Or maybe I just have bad luck.
 
Well 2+ year relationship officially on a "break" Not sure if I want a real break up or not. My emotions and feelings are all over the place.

But for the time being, I am single.

I need those pro tinder strats. I hear thats what all the kids use these days.

Take some time to yourself.

If you mean looking for a hookup, good luck with that. In my experience, I've never seen a girl there who explicitly said she's looking for just a hookup.

The women I have hooked up with from tinder, never explicitly said they were looking for a hookup.
 
If you mean looking for a hookup, good luck with that. In my experience, I've never seen a girl there who explicitly said she's looking for just a hookup.
Isn't that the whole point? Eh I've seen a profile that said "if you're just looking for sex keep swiping" but I've also seen "looking for fun"


Sounds like you are already done and fine with it. If so, just let it be. If you want to continue seeing her, call her and tell what you think. I feel after six months you are in a real relationship and she could at least let you know it is over.


A break is mostly just the introduction to break up. I mean, why would you decide to not see each other for a while if the relationship is going well.

Feel the Tinder hype has died down a little lately btw. Or maybe I just have bad luck.

It's a complicated situation. I still have feelings for her, she still has feelings for me and we have fun when we hang out, but there are some issues and we could both use new experiences. If we end up coming back together at some other point in time then so be it.
 
Almost been a week since she came to my house for dinner & games and such. I decided to see if she should response via text message because I felt kind of ignored on Sunday & wanted to see if she would actually respond the next day or so, showing she still had interest in me, but still nothing. I think I've officially been friendzoned, though I will admit part of it was my fault due to the wording I used.

My dad was like "Hey, heard from her since Sunday?", told him no, said that "I should respond back", but I don't feel as though it's going anywhere and if she herself hasn't just sent a quick "hey, how's your day been?" lately, I feel like she just sees me as a friend & I don't know if I want to persue things with her now or move on and try again with someone else.
 
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