You now can get Refunds on Steam

So I bought the Scholar of the First Sin DX11 upgrade to my original DX9 version of Dark Souls II. I wasn't going to say anything about this at first since it's been way over 14 days, but since other people in this thread are being refunded for purchases over 14 days, I thought why not?

I'm not mad that they didn't refund my purchase. But it's kind of pathetic that they didn't even bother to notice their own contradiction. At least use the right reason to reject the refund request. The fact that it's been over 14 days.

How much did you play your original DX9 version of the game? I wonder if they included that in their assessment despite it showing the play time for the DX11 version.
 
Buy it, copy it crack it, then ask for refund. People blocked from utorrent sites and so forth, or in places where they can't find an easy way to get a game are already talking about doing it. No worry about being tracked in utorrent, no worry about ISP tracking, no need for usenet accounts, no IP blocking. Just get the .exe later. Super simple.
Huh.

Seems like a long way around for a shortcut. Plus the pattern would be incredibly obvious after a while.
 
The other option is for some sort of system for developers reporting completion time and then having a shorter refund playtime limit so that no one can finish within the limit

I've fully finished games within 2 hours, realized around the 20-30 minute mark the game was bad but finished it because "screw it". Even if you could only get a partial refund like say 75% back I'd gladly take that over keeping a piece of garbage in my steam library.
 
Huh.

Seems like a long way around for a shortcut.
uhm...its just a different download location and clicking a single button. So ya 1 extra button:) But with things like entire nations shutting down access to some sites, a legal download location untracked and unchecked by ISP's and being considered totally legit is a boon to them.
What bothers me MORE is the fact that many of my AAA games had severe issues recently and I review for a living so if I wanted a refund, due to not being able to track intent, I could be considered someone they wouldn't give money back to. That just bothers me. Again only talking about games that technically can't be played.

I've fully finished games within 2 hours, realized around the 20-30 minute mark the game was bad but finished it because "screw it". Even if you could only get a partial refund like say 75% back I'd gladly take that over keeping a piece of garbage in my steam library.

Well wait. why would you finish a game and get a refund on it?
 
The only game I would hope to get a refund on is Stomping Land. The game was such a scam it was pulled from Steam. It doesnt give the option at all on that one that I can find.
 
Unless I buy something for full price (which isn't very likely with Steam) I wouldn't go for a refund. It is a great feature to finally have though.
 
The only game I would hope to get a refund on is Stomping Land. The game was such a scam it was pulled from Steam. It doesnt give the option at all on that one that I can find.

Wooo. Really? Ya that should have a refund ability. Shit man...does that mean if someone pulls a game no refunds are available?

One other thing I keep thinking is will this cause devs to adjust their games. That could be good, but it could also mean some oddly paced titles.
 
This is awesome:

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Thanks, Steam.
 
Wooo. Really? Ya that should have a refund ability. Shit man...does that mean if someone pulls a game no refunds are available?

One other thing I keep thinking is will this cause devs to adjust their games. That could be good, but it could also mean some oddly paced titles.

This already happened years ago. Games are massively front loaded, not for refunds but the initial "this game is incredible 10/10" reviews and internet buzz.

So I don't see anything changing really.
 
I wonder how much they could do to fix the problem by setting a price floor? Most of the people who are upset are indies building super-short games and charging a couple bucks for them. If they disallowed refunds for games under $4.99 (or maybe just knocked the timeframe down to 30 minutes) it might go a long way to fixing the problem.

I think that will make the indies to increase their game pricing to more than $4.99 to get out of this loophole.

Yep, it's definitely refunds and not the imminent summer sale.

But a steep nosedive rather than a gradual decline like this? I really doubt so. Besides, the Steam summer sales rumor came way before this nosedive.
 
I might try get a refund for Carmageddon Reincarnated and/or Next Car Game.

Early Access has burned me way too many times now
 
This seems really odd. People (like me) get refunds for purchases from 6 months back. Could it be some trouble with the update thing, that they count the playtime from the non-upgraded version too? But then it should be listed...
Getting the wrong message is not anything I would be mad about tho, it happens.
How much did you play your original DX9 version of the game? I wonder if they included that in their assessment despite it showing the play time for the DX11 version.

I played roughly 50 hours of the DX9 version. If they counted it, they should at least have mentioned it. The worst thing is saying something that is factually incorrect and then closing the issue without resolving anything. I have no problems with rejected refunds if you're going to give me a good (and factually correct) reason. But you just can't expect common sense when it comes to Valve. Like....what's happened in my situation is so bizarre that I'm not convinced a real human being actually reviewed my request. I wouldn't be shocked if they have an automated system that is sifting though all of these requests and real people just review the more complicated ones.
 
I played roughly 50 hours of the DX9 version. If they counted it, they should at least have mentioned it. The worst thing is saying something that is factually incorrect and then closing the issue without resolving anything. I have no problems with rejected refunds if you're going to give me a good (and factually correct) reason. But you just can't expect common sense when it comes to Valve. Like....what's happened in my situation is so bizarre that I'm not convinced a real human being actually reviewed my request. I wouldn't be shocked if they have an automated system that is sifting though all of these requests and real people just review the more complicated ones.
It looks more like a human error to me. I'd contact the normal Steam support to ask what went wrong. Based on the info in the pic you should get a refund.
 
I might try get a refund for Carmageddon Reincarnated and/or Next Car Game.

Early Access has burned me way too many times now

Yea I know what you mean :(. If only I can get rid of Minimum since the devs threw in the towel, but I got 5 hours of gametime on it :/.
 
It looks more like a human error to me. I'd contact the normal Steam support to ask what went wrong. Based on the info in the pic you should get a refund.

Ugh. I guess I'll give it another go. This is literally my first time dealing with Steam support, so now I know what thousands of people have been complaining about for years.
 
I might try get a refund for Carmageddon Reincarnated and/or Next Car Game.

Early Access has burned me way too many times now

No luck here with Wreckfest. It can't do it because it was a retail key activation (they emailed a key).
 
So you can refund any game you bought no matter how long ago as long as you didn't play it for over 3 hours?
You can request refunds for anything within 6 months. If you bought it earlier than that you can't even try. They seem to accept pretty much all requests for now (with little play time ofc) but I think they will become a bit more strict about the time since purchase when this "feature" has existed for some time.
 
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Submitted requests for Refunds on 3 games I got on impulse during the Winter Sale and they approved them within about 2 hours. Really impressed how fast they even responded AND accepted. Though I'm sure refunding 3 games worth less than ~$10 is not that hard of a sell for them.
 
I would suggest that people exercise some caution when asking for a refund. "I bought it on impulse" is not, in my opinion, a valid reason for asking for a refund and it may cause problems for you down the line when you won't be able to get a refund for a game that has actual issues.
 
lol feature seems buried or it is just too late at night to be looking into this. Can't figure out how to request a refund. "help.steamworks" page doesn't have anything on it. No idea how to proceed.
 
I would suggest that people exercise some caution when asking for a refund. "I bought it on impulse" is not, in my opinion, a valid reason for asking for a refund and it may cause problems for you down the line when you won't be able to get a refund for a game that has actual issues.

Yup.

Bank on them keeping track of this kind of thing...
 
lol feature seems buried or it is just too late at night to be looking into this. Can't figure out how to request a refund. "help.steamworks" page doesn't have anything on it. No idea how to proceed.

Easiest way to get to correct page is:

1) Find game in library
2) Click support on links on right
3) Answer questions correctly (eg. It's not what I expected -> I'd like to request a refund)

I would suggest that people exercise some caution when asking for a refund. "I bought it on impulse" is not, in my opinion, a valid reason for asking for a refund and it may cause problems for you down the line when you won't be able to get a refund for a game that has actual issues.

"You can request a refund for nearly any purchase on Steam—for any reason."

I doubt they will care if you refund impulse purchases every now and then. But it can be seen as abuse if you refund majority.
 
lol feature seems buried or it is just too late at night to be looking into this. Can't figure out how to request a refund. "help.steamworks" page doesn't have anything on it. No idea how to proceed.

Sign into https://help.steampowered.com/ -> Select "A purchase" -> Select a purchase from your history list -> Select the problem type -> Select "I'd like to request a refund".

I doubt they will care if you refund impulse purchases every now and then. But it can be seen as abuse if you refund majority.

That's his point.
 
So I bought the Scholar of the First Sin DX11 upgrade to my original DX9 version of Dark Souls II. I wasn't going to say anything about this at first since it's been way over 14 days, but since other people in this thread are being refunded for purchases over 14 days, I thought why not?

I'm not mad that they didn't refund my purchase. But it's kind of pathetic that they didn't even bother to notice their own contradiction. At least use the right reason to reject the refund request. The fact that it's been over 14 days.

Appeal, someone missclicked.
 
It's easier to just use the Games section above purchase, it has a search bar so you can find it easier.

Ah, this worked, but it blocks me from requesting anything older than 6 months.

This purchase occurred significantly outside the refund window, and cannot be refunded. You can only submit refund requests for purchases made within the last 6 months.
 
The only game in my Steam account is a copy of HL2 I got with a video card when Steam first launched. I wonder what would happen if I tried to claim it?

This purchase occurred significantly outside the refund window, and cannot be refunded. You can only submit refund requests for purchases made within the last 6 months.

Yep. Oh well.
 
I'm in the Steam Support for the game I'm trying to refund in Steam, but when I try to request, it just gives this blurb, "This purchase occurred significantly outside the refund window, and cannot be refunded. You can only submit refund requests for purchases made within the last 6 months."

How do you bypass that? I've played it for less than an hour.
 
The 2 requirements:
-Bought within the last 14 days
-Played for 2 hours or less

Seems reasonable to me

Very reasonable. Glad this seems to be somewhat automated, it's such a pain haggling with people over things like this. Got one Steam refund in the past, and don't anticipate many more - though this is handy.
 
Here's a devious thought.
Take pretty much any of the MMOs on Steam. When you install them and click "start", the first thing most of them do is connect to the games patch server and go through a lengthy patching process. FF14, as an example, took nearly two hours to finish all it's patching, downloading and such before I could play it. Since Steam counts me as playing from the moment the main program is started, I had nearly two hours of playtime logged before I was actually playing.

Now, how long before some wiseass dev comes up with a way to do that with any old game to push play time past the two hour limit? People would probably catch on pretty quickly, but still.
 
Rather than a set 2 hours for everything, what about having the refund grace period be a percentage of the game's length? Like 10% into the game or something like that. So a game's refund period would be variable based on the length of the game
Well, that's probably not feasible at all. But I would expect more milestone achievements in shorter games, especially those designed to only be 2-3 hour long games. If you have the "finished the game" achievement then that should be taken into account during the review, maybe?

I mean most devs already use milestone achievements as a rough way to track how many people start playing their games, how far they get, etc.
 
I'm in the Steam Support for the game I'm trying to refund in Steam, but when I try to request, it just gives this blurb, "This purchase occurred significantly outside the refund window, and cannot be refunded. You can only submit refund requests for purchases made within the last 6 months."

How do you bypass that? I've played it for less than an hour.

If it says it's too old, then it's too old.
 
Here's a devious thought.
Take pretty much any of the MMOs on Steam. When you install them and click "start", the first thing most of them do is connect to the games patch server and go through a lengthy patching process. FF14, as an example, took nearly two hours to finish all it's patching, downloading and such before I could play it. Since Steam counts me as playing from the moment the main program is started, I had nearly two hours of playtime logged before I was actually playing.

Now, how long before some wiseass dev comes up with a way to do that with any old game to push play time past the two hour limit? People would probably catch on pretty quickly, but still.

What would be the point? All of the scenarios people keep imagining are just getting weird and would require a lot of effort to circumvent a small population of people.
 
Got refunded on Ultra Street Fighter 4. My attached note to them was:

Bought USF4 on a whim after watching a FG tourney, played it and realized it's best that I stick to just watching. Thanks.

Feels good.
 
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