I was too, because seeing it live during a press conference was amazeballs, but then i remember not only they'll be at gamescom, but they'll start the marketing campaing in full force, so i'm kinda expecting something huge.
Stella has been removed from FFXV; Itamuro writing game; Demo 2 June 9; FFXV not @ E3
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I was too, because seeing it live during a press conference was amazeballs, but then i remember not only they'll be at gamescom, but they'll start the marketing campaing in full force, so i'm kinda expecting something huge.
I fear (or rather soberly expect) that you are correct.
Just what a shame that there wouldn't be a big Japan studio Square game at their first E3 press conference
Guys, but what if they announce Chrono 3 for next gen- STOP IT inner child, just stop it
Might settle for XII HD, tho.
FFXII HD would make me forgive all transgressions on their part. XD
As for the awesome trailer thing, Nomura isn't the only one who can hype solely based on trailers guys. Have we forgotten what FFXIII trailers did to people? Don't know who had those edited but they were pretty attracting imo.
Go_Ly_Dow
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Gotta remember 90% of the E3 trailer was pre-rendered. Even the "gameplay".
The past few trailers have been using mostly real-time assets. So the latest trailers can only really use footage that is actually ready.
Probably a good thing the game is skipping this E3. They can save all the material that's complete and ready to be marketed for GC.
The past few trailers have been using mostly real-time assets. So the latest trailers can only really use footage that is actually ready.
Probably a good thing the game is skipping this E3. They can save all the material that's complete and ready to be marketed for GC.
... It's neither rushed (much to many people's chagrin lol) nor stripped down.
Not at this point, anyway.
TheGreatLugia
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Breaking news from Kotaku: Final Fantasy XV's composer confirms that the game needs more time in development and won't be released until 2017.
Alex_Mexico
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What? When did they say this or what are you basing that off? I'm not saying it isn't true, I'm saying that I may have missed an important piece of information and I wanna see it.
Of course if that's speculation from your part then your guess is as good as mine.
Stop :|
Across the previous two ATRs, Gamescom is the start for the marketing campaign for the full game. (Where TGS2014/JF2014/etc. was specifically related to Episode Duscae)
Alex_Mexico
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Sweet.
Japan needs FFXV more than we do, that's for sure.
I really really hope KH3's shown instead. I'm up to here with Square announcing games way too fucking soon only to go under the radar for 2-3 years and then release 2 years after that. It's clear KH3 was announced when it was nothing but one cutscenes and one empty test level.
TheGreatLugia
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Didn't Nomura say immediately after E3 that they announced Kingdom Hearts III to early?
Considering how everyone kept clamouring for III every time they announced a game that didn't have III in the title, I don't think they had a choice anymore.
I actually like the XIII games to a certain degree. They're pretty, anyway, and would look great in higher res. But it's way too soon for me to care.
Me too.I like the XIII games 
and would enjoy a collection while waiting for XV
and would enjoy a collection while waiting for XVThat's true but it was still great, because nobody expected it.
KH3 announcement was simultaneously :
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We're already going on 2 years of pin drop silence.Its gonna be rough.
KH3 announcement was simultaneously :
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We're already going on 2 years of pin drop silence.Its gonna be rough.
I was baffled when they announced KH3 because I knew the game wouldn't come out any time soon. After the debacle that was FNC I though they would never do this again but alas...
JumPeRJumPzZ
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KH3 announcement was simultaneously :
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We're already going on 2 years of pin drop silence.Its gonna be rough.
And they already had to restart besicly with that Engine switch to Unreal Engine 4. I hope they keep that Engine. So they dont have to worry about working tech like the FF15 team did.
You should have taken the KHIII announcement for what it was: a statement of "we're working on next-gen, and this is what we'll bring to you in the (distant) future".
I think the next time we'll see it, it'll be like in XV case at TGS 2014, where it was "ok now this is what the game is".
I think the next time we'll see it, it'll be like in XV case at TGS 2014, where it was "ok now this is what the game is".
Hey look at the bright side, two years are already gone (damn time why you move so fast) and we're finally going to see something new by the end of this year.
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Did they even start off with Luminous? I always thought that they were still in pre-production when they announced the game and that short trailer wasn't even in-game. I was on the assumption that there was never really a switch but simply a commencement.
I don't think anything thing they'll show this year will be close to the completed product. I expect KH 3 not sooner than 2018.
JumPeRJumPzZ
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That gameplay footage from 2013 was in the Luminous Engine i think.
2013 footage was running on Ebony, not Luminous.
APZonerunner
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KH is a different beast to FF in that ultimately Square has to answer to Disney and Disney won't stand for them fucking around for ages. I also think with the success of Disney Infinity as a big cross-over thing Square know that one of KH's USPs is being encroached on and so they know they need to nail it, and fast. It's all a danger to SE as Disney could also decide to do their own thing with the KH franchise (like the mobile game, which mercifully was canned) without Square.
So, KH3 will come out in far more timely a fashion than FF15, I'm sure. I truly believe the UE3 switch had a lot to do with all this, too; they needed to get on an engine they could work in fast and just push a game out on, so they switched.
So, KH3 will come out in far more timely a fashion than FF15, I'm sure. I truly believe the UE3 switch had a lot to do with all this, too; they needed to get on an engine they could work in fast and just push a game out on, so they switched.
The man who approved the clothing destruction system in 3rd Birthday and the disgusting peeping sidequest in Type0 is not cool, respectable, or likeable. It is one thing to have fanservice designs, and another to have activities that treat females as objects to ogle at.
This is why I dislike Tabata and he certainly hasn't changed that opinion considering his answers about Cindy and female party members in FF15. He is a dirtbag through and through.
Okay please please tell me this song is till in the game: "Somnus"
http://youtu.be/-KKMbHNja_0
Also from e3 2013 "Ominis Lacrima"
http://youtu.be/wSkpr4LPT8w
At least the music will be untouched, right!? Right!?
http://youtu.be/-KKMbHNja_0
Also from e3 2013 "Ominis Lacrima"
http://youtu.be/wSkpr4LPT8w
At least the music will be untouched, right!? Right!?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFMXPYKShTM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WuqGTC6Z14
They are both not the exact same version.
Oh, so they were changed for Demo.
TheContact
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This is pathetic XV won't even have a showing at e3. Square Enix are fuck tards
ArkhamFantasy
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They said they would have a ton of information at Gamescom and TGS. Its not a big deal at all.
Yeah, his track record there is quite poor. I've met with Yoshida personally every year since 2011 and the amount of honesty he shares is unmatched. Tabata, on the other hand, speaks to fans chained to a marketing director. What does that say about that.
May 2017, berieve.
Lady Bird
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I hope that's when they'll show more story information/ cutscenes. I want to see how the new stuff compares to the old. Is the new story going to feel ridiculous, cliché or bland like Watanabe's scenarios? Or will the story team deliver us something more involving, exciting and intriguing?
I hope it's the latter. Last thing we need is another anime-filled melodrama.
Well it's certainly not being rushed and I'm not sure how it's being stripped down. It's just being turned into a different game.
Necromanti
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I have absolutely zero confidence in the title at this point, so at least I might be pleasantly surprised later.
Tabata and Ofuji also seem pretty honest and underpromising even. Ofuji often seems surprised about what Tabata says, too, showing that probably not everything is scripted 100%. If anything they often seem to say things that aren't that smart PR-wise (Cidney, female party members, spoiling the fight against Magitek soldiers in the demo, etc.). How does that look like PR-controlled talk?
Now why they didn't talk about the Stella thing earlier, nobody knows, but maybe they underestimated fans' connection to Versus' character concepts before the demo survey feedback. If you argue that they willingly lied to ride on the Versus hype (which, honestly, I don't think has been that huge before the FFXV rebrand in the mainstream), wouldn't it have been strategically better to answer stuff like this long before rolling out the main marketing, anyway, so as to not generate negative word-of-mouth just a few weeks before gamescom?
Most mainstream followers who aren't on message boards (like many of my friends who will buy FFXV, too) weren't even aware that Stella and Luna were two different characters. They could have just kept Stella's name and never mention that they even rewrote her, because we never would have known otherwise. So they willingly decided to be honest and take the flak, when they could have avoided it. Seems stupid PR-wise. They even read Nojima's letter and emphasized that they thought long and hard about changes out of respect. Of course, they could be lying and acting. We don't know. I chose to believe them. You're free to do otherwise, of course.
I don't necessarily see a conspiracy here. Maybe they just didn't think the story changes were such a huge deal because they might have seen how badly written the story was before (Nojima + Nomura - what do you expect?) and for them it was only natural and not a thing that had to be clarified before the story blowout they planned for the last months leading to the release. Then they were surprised about the questions regarding Stella and decided to respond now.
Anyone could see that there would be no other sequel of the main chapter seeing how badly they were welcomed in terms of sales. But even this would be a bad news after years in which SE has been criticized fiercely for them?
Relaxed Muscle
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My feel is that Yoshida is like that, he's the one that pushed for that kind of approach, almost unheard inside SE, he's truly appasionate about his work and he seems way more approchable that most directors and producers at SE.
In exchange Tabata looks like this very ambitious guy, he sees FF XV as the opportunity of his life and getting to a position he was quite far off (I mean until 2 years ago he didn't directed a single console game and not of this caliber). And he's gonna use any weapon at his disposal, YoshiP way of getting closer to the community was, without doubt, part of the success of the XIV reboot, while YoshiP sees it as more as a necessity (an MMO thrives on his community), SE and Tabata treats it as another marketing tool, and you can kinda see it, YoshiP streamings have that kind of charm and randomness that others lack (YoshiP showing "Top Secret" documents while the marketing guys giving him the look or having Wada, SE expresident as some kind of hostess showing photos and all).
Meanwhile Tabata's streaming has that cold and scripted feeling, like a well oiled machine that never goes of the prepared path. And somehow it kinda feels his very PR style of just saying what the fans wants to hear, because he really needs this game to do well.
Totally my gut feeling about this, not saying is accurate.
I think I agree with this. Tabata's streams aren't even live anymore these days, which is why I don't buy Ofuji's so called "surprised reactions" at Tabata's statements.
Honestly, the party scene not being in is probably the thing that I'm bummed out about the most. It really was a unique, unusual way to start off a RPG. Noctis in his suit, at a party on the top of a skyscraper at night with a view to the modern city and then the sudden attack of Niflheim airships. Whew.
But on the other hand they might have felt that it was too hard to justify the party happily cruising around, hunting a Behemot after Noctis' home city was destroyed and father killed. You would immediately have to start out on the run again, like FFXIII. Slowly exploring the world then as an introduction would feel a bit out-of-place, maybe.
EDIT: Okay, no, wait. They get attacked by Niflheim soldiers in the demo already, so that would contradict my point. Did the invasion of Insomnia already happen at that point? Would be strange, as the party hasn't talked about it at all.
But on the other hand they might have felt that it was too hard to justify the party happily cruising around, hunting a Behemot after Noctis' home city was destroyed and father killed. You would immediately have to start out on the run again, like FFXIII. Slowly exploring the world then as an introduction would feel a bit out-of-place, maybe.
EDIT: Okay, no, wait. They get attacked by Niflheim soldiers in the demo already, so that would contradict my point. Did the invasion of Insomnia already happen at that point? Would be strange, as the party hasn't talked about it at all.
dwr
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I was reading the "Reception" part of the episode Duscae article on the FF wikia, which I assume is a summary of the Active Time Report thingy in the OP (I'd like to, but I don't have time to listen to it) and I read:
But why?! We have a protagonist that for once doesn't sound as a squeaky kid and people complain?
I like Noctis voice, am I alone?
But why?! We have a protagonist that for once doesn't sound as a squeaky kid and people complain?
I like Noctis voice, am I alone?
Maybe they added the Niflheim soldiers only to provide more enemy variety in Episode Duscae?
I actually like the XIII games to a certain degree. They're pretty, anyway, and would look great in higher res. But it's way too soon for me to care.
They look phenomenal in motion on PC at 4k.
NoctisVsStar
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Again it's not a big deal wait for GC.
NoctisVsStar
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How about a regular talking voice? Without any gruff sounding sounds.
I'm pretty perplexed at how you guys are painting Tabata as an evil corporate opportunist when plenty of journalists who interviewed him confirmed that he's a passionate and honest sounding guy, I really dislike the cynical and judgemental position some of you like to take, but whatever, I think a lot of people laughed at Yoshida and made fun too because he said he was going to make FFXIV work (that was PR talk too). I guess it's just easier to hate someone.
And Tabata's streams are not live anymore not because he has something to hide, there may be plenty of other reasons. I for one I'm happy because they are translated so I can understand what they are saying.
The joke is on people like you who think there's only the E3, the game will have a big showing at Gamescom.
And Tabata's streams are not live anymore not because he has something to hide, there may be plenty of other reasons. I for one I'm happy because they are translated so I can understand what they are saying.
The joke is on people like you who think there's only the E3, the game will have a big showing at Gamescom.