Stella has been removed from FFXV; Itamuro writing game; Demo 2 June 9; FFXV not @ E3

The fact that they're changing Noctis VA is a sign the feedback thing is somewhat honest.

I just hope the same applies to Ignis and of the script in general (FFXII style please).

Please please pleaseeeeee.
 
But why?! We have a protagonist that for once doesn't sound as a squeaky kid and people complain?
I like Noctis voice, am I alone?

The opposite of squeeky child voice isn't a Christian Bale Batman knock off. The voice direction for Noctis thus far is, at best, pandering.

It sounds bad for different reasons.

How about a regular talking voice? Without any gruff sounding sounds.

Get Yuri Lowenthal. Boom, done.
 
I'm pretty perplexed at how you guys are painting Tabata as an evil corporate opportunist when plenty of journalists who interviewed him confirmed that he's a passionate and honest sounding guy, I really dislike the cynical and judgemental position some of you like to take, but whatever, I think a lot of people laughed at Yoshida and made fun too because he said he was going to make FFXIV work (that was PR talk too). I guess it's just easier to hate someone.

And Tabata's streams are not live anymore not because he has something to hide, there may be plenty of other reasons. I for one I'm happy because they are translated so I can understand what they are saying.
Preach!

The joke is on people like you who think there's only the E3, the game will have a big showing at Gamescom.
Exactly. Gamescom is Europe's E3 and a huge deal over here.
 
The opposite of squeeky child voice isn't a Christian Bale Batman knock off. The voice direction for Noctis thus far is, at best, pandering.

It sounds bad for different reasons.



Get Yuri Lowenthal. Boom, done.

Bale in Howl's moving castle had a perfectly fine voice.
 
But why?! We have a protagonist that for once doesn't sound as a squeaky kid and people complain?
I like Noctis voice, am I alone?
I mean, he sounded fine in some parts, but most of the time it was way too gruffy. The issue is the acting, not necessarily the voice.
Will the new voice recordings be in ED2.0?

Maybe they added the Niflheim soldiers only to provide more enemy variety in Episode Duscae?
Yeah, maybe.
 
I agree with you guys. Tabata is a perverted, immature, evil overlord who scripts his video presentations, crushing fan's dreams and treats them like idiots. He should be kicked out of Square Enix.

Am I right?
 
Wouldn't they be better off to delay the Episode Duscae 2.0 update and trailer for reveal during their E3 press conference? Would feel strange to me if they hyped up a new game that might not be coming out anytime soon, instead of FFXV.

I secretly hope Tabata was lying about FFXV and E3, and they have a surprise in store, but maybe Gamescom makes more sense.
 
Wouldn't they be better off to delay the Episode Duscae 2.0 update and trailer for reveal during their E3 press conference? Would feel strange to me if they hyped up a new game that might not be coming out anytime soon, instead of FFXV.

I secretly hope Tabata was lying about FFXV and E3, and they have a surprise in store, but maybe Gamescom makes more sense.

SE got plenty of games on deck, plus it seems XV will be the sole focus for SE at GC in a way it's smart because the following month TGS takes place.
 
Wouldn't they be better off to delay the Episode Duscae 2.0 update and trailer for reveal during their E3 press conference? Would feel strange to me if they hyped up a new game that might not be coming out anytime soon, instead of FFXV.

I secretly hope Tabata was lying about FFXV and E3, and they have a surprise in store, but maybe Gamescom makes more sense.

Nah, I'm sure everyone with Duscae wants to play 2.0 right now. :P
 
Stella was definitely redesigned under Nomura's direction.

Luna's current design is definitely the same one that Stella would've used,had Nomura been director.

This design was dumped long ago,even by Nomura.
stella-from-final-fantasy-versus-xiii-for-playstation-3-pic-7.jpg

That was such a great design. One of the best in any JRPGs I have seen.
 
You know, I don't like silly stuff like looking up skirts or the peep hole scene in Type-0 (though my 12yo me would have) either, but under this scrutiny a lot of our old favorite games and their directors would crumble. And 95% of Japanese games.
Of course, I'm not saying you shouldn't complain because "things are the way they are, what can you do", no, but at least be so fair and acknowledge that Sakaguchi and Kitase also have green-lit a lot of bad female character designs and jiggling boobs. Cidney would have existed under every other FF director, too.
 
I used to respect him a lot (he did a great job with Crisis Core and Type-0) and I still want to believe that he made this changes in order to get the job done. However, he wouldn't tell the truth about Stella and the other changes made to the story until this week.

I just don't like lies.
 
I'm pretty perplexed at how you guys are painting Tabata as an evil corporate opportunist when plenty of journalists who interviewed him confirmed that he's a passionate and honest sounding guy, I really dislike the cynical and judgemental position some of you like to take, but whatever, I think a lot of people laughed at Yoshida and made fun too because he said he was going to make FFXIV work (that was PR talk too). I guess it's just easier to hate someone.

And Tabata's streams are not live anymore not because he has something to hide, there may be plenty of other reasons. I for one I'm happy because they are translated so I can understand what they are saying.



The joke is on people like you who think there's only the E3, the game will have a big showing at Gamescom.

I'm skeptical because he told those same people that the story and whatnot was remaining the same when now we know it isn't, and how much Versus XIII fans mattered, etc. He probably should have come clean right then and not 9 months later after fans spent $60 on a demo.
 
I know you're being sarcastic, but weren't people incredibly skeptical of the latter before he turned XIV around?

ARR first beta impressions were very skeptical. Hell I was at the time but update after update, the game improved a lot. Yoshi-P deserves huge credit for what he did. Probably one of the biggest feats in the game industry.
 
I'm skeptical because he told those same people that the story and whatnot was remaining the same when now we know it isn't, and how much Versus XIII fans mattered, etc. He probably should have come clean right then and not 9 months later after fans spent $60 on a demo.

Well, better now than after the full game releases :p

He's definitely flawed (heck, who isn't?), but i can still feel honesty and passion from his messages.
But who knows, maybe i'm getting brainwashed by his PR skills.
 
You know, I don't like silly stuff like looking up skirts or the peep hole scene in Type-0 (though my 12yo me would have) either, but under this scrutiny a lot of our old favorite games and their directors would crumble. And 95% of Japanese games.
Of course, I'm not saying you shouldn't complain because "things are the way they are, what can you do", no, but at least be so fair and acknowledge that Sakaguchi and Kitase also have green-lit a lot of bad female character designs and jiggling boobs. Cidney would have existed under every other FF director, too.

a female Cid is a neat idea but Cindy is not.

Yes every FF director would have own version of female Cid....and now we at least have an idea what Tabata would do. It didn't surprise me all that much that we have Cindy from Tabata, given all the girls from Type-0 - he always has a hormone-filled 12 yo inside him.
 
a female Cid is a neat idea but Cindy is not.

Yes every FF director would have own version of female Cid....and now we at least have an idea what Tabata would do. I didn't surprise me we have Cindy from Tabata, given all the girls from Type-0 - he always has a hormone-filled 12 yo inside him.

I get your point as does a lot of people but Cindy is not Cid in FFXV.
 
Nomura's female characters sucks and I bet my life Stella would have sucked too. Type-0 girls are slightly more interesting at least.
 
a female Cid is a neat idea but Cindy is not.

Yes every FF director would have own version of female Cid....and now we at least have an idea what Tabata would do. It didn't surprise me all that much that we have Cindy from Tabata, given all the girls from Type-0 - he always has a hormone-filled 12 yo inside him.

Uh.

What.

Cindy is Ferrari's design

And she's not Cid.
 
a female Cid is a neat idea but Cindy is not.

Yes every FF director would have own version of female Cid....and now we at least have an idea what Tabata would do. I didn't surprise me we have Cindy from Tabata, given all the girls from Type-0 - he always has a hormone-filled 12 yo inside him.

Like Sakaguchi, Kitase and Toriyama (see Tifa's bouncing melons, Rikku's ass shots (she's underage), Yunalesca, Chocolina, etc...), no?
My point was that I'm sure every other FF dirctor would have green-lit Cidney's current design, too. I wonder if it's entirely Roberto Ferrari's design, though, or if other artists changed her to make her more "sexy".

EDIT: LOL, just realized that it's my fault if we're starting this Cidney topic again :D
 
Like Sakaguchi, Kitase and Toriyama (see Tifa's bouncing melons, Rikku's ass shots (she's underage), Yunalesca, Chocolina, etc...), no?
My point was that I'm sure every other FF dirctor would have green-lit Cidney's current design, too. I wonder if it's entirely Roberto Ferrari's design, though, or if other artists changed her to make her more "sexy".

I'm pretty sure Toriyama got enough flak for Dress Lightning Simulator. Still Tabata's 3rd Birthday and Type 0 games had the fanservice turn up a couple of notches over the average FF games.
 
I'm pretty sure Toriyama got enough flak for Dress Lightning Simulator. Still Tabata's 3rd Birthday and Type 0 games had the fanservice turn up a couple of notches over the average FF games.
We haven't seen how much he'll have in a main-line FF, besides the Cidney thing, yet. It would be a bummer, definitely. I want FFs to be a bit more classy.
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Though, if they had to record new lines for the new party quest and camping scenes, they might have the re-recorded old lines, too.
 
We haven't seen how much he'll have in a main-line FF, besides the Cidney thing, yet. It would be a bummer, definitely. I want FFs to be a bit more classy.

True, I want to give him the benefit of the doubt. But showing the first female ingame ever and that being cidney, is not exactly a good sign lol
 
True, I want to give him the benefit of the doubt. But showing the first female ingame ever and that being cidney, is not exactly a good sign lol

Yeah, but you could have focused on a female character like that in almost any FF during its development. Impossible to judge before it's out.
 
Is type-0 that perverted? I own it but haven't gotten around to playing yet. I've liked Class Zero ever since seeing that pic with them and their weapons in 2006. But FF heroines have been lacking lately. Serah sucked, Rem looks yuck, and Luna hopefully won't be a fragile little girl.

And Cindy is cool she looks like the gas station attendant in Persona 4 lol.
 
Honestly, the party scene not being in is probably the thing that I'm bummed out about the most. It really was a unique, unusual way to start off a RPG. Noctis in his suit, at a party on the top of a skyscraper at night with a view to the modern city and then the sudden attack of Niflheim airships. Whew.

But on the other hand they might have felt that it was too hard to justify the party happily cruising around, hunting a Behemot after Noctis' home city was destroyed and father killed. You would immediately have to start out on the run again, like FFXIII. Slowly exploring the world then as an introduction would feel a bit out-of-place, maybe.

EDIT: Okay, no, wait. They get attacked by Niflheim soldiers in the demo already, so that would contradict my point. Did the invasion of Insomnia already happen at that point? Would be strange, as the party hasn't talked about it at all.

It sounded like it was going to be such a bombastic opening and it's hard to imagine what's replaced it given they neglected to share what's in its place now. My only fear now is a lot of those scenes and events will be communicated to the player through radio broadcasts like we've seen in the recent trailers... which quite honestly is kind of boring.

Is type-0 that perverted? I own it but haven't gotten around to playing yet. I've liked Class Zero ever since seeing that pic with them and their weapons in 2006. But FF heroines have been lacking lately. Serah sucked, Rem looks yuck, and Luna hopefully won't be a fragile little girl.

And Cindy is cool she looks like the gas station attendant in Persona 4 lol.

Just going to leave this here...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwbY9-2Gn2I
 
It sounded like it was going to be such a bombastic opening and it's hard to imagine what's replaced it given they neglected to share what's in its place now. My only fear now is a lot of those scenes and events will be communicated to the player through radio broadcasts like we've seen in the recent trailers... which quite honestly is kind of boring.

Gotta finish the game! No time to make scripted awesome events. We'll probably get a CGI scene or something. Or maybe just a couple of still images on the background while a voice on off tell us what happened.
 
I hope it's the latter. Last thing we need is another anime-filled melodrama.
To give an example, the artwork at the end of the demo that depicts Luna (?) and the city not only shows an interesting scenario event, but it also portrays believably harsh emotional and physical suffering.

Of course, that can simply be credited to the artist who drew it, but if that somehow represents what we can expect from the story, and if the writers manage to express all those elements in the game, then it'll already be an upgrade over FFXIII's vanille smiling during holocaust, the blonde kid talking about vacations and taking a rest while under fire, the party's cold and nonsense assault on Eden, or any other garbage from that game.
 
Wait, so it's confirmed that Cidney is not Cid? So i guess its the old man she references at the end of the demo?

Also, the last interesting female character i've seen in a FF was Ashe.
 
It sounded like it was going to be such a bombastic opening and it's hard to imagine what's replaced it given they neglected to share what's in its place now. My only fear now is a lot of those scenes and events will be communicated to the player through radio broadcasts like we've seen in the recent trailers... which quite honestly is kind of boring.



Just going to leave this here...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwbY9-2Gn2I
Holy shit! 8 minutes lol. That is so creepy. What's with J games and anime and their peeping obsession. It was funny in VII but this is just fucking weird. They forget us females play RPGs too...>.>
 
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