Miles Quaritch
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Since ODST. Get it right.
Reach is garbage and Halo 4, for whatever reason, doubled down on that garbage direction.
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Since ODST. Get it right.
Reach is garbage and Halo 4, for whatever reason, doubled down on that garbage direction.
I feel like I got to read this 3 times. Halo 4 has the best warthog so its the best halo.
bananafactory
Banned
Just started up MCC again to get back into Halo myself, haven't touched the game since launch month
It's nice to see they STILL haven't fixed the godawful juttery mess that is the Halo CE cutscenes
It's nice to see they STILL haven't fixed the godawful juttery mess that is the Halo CE cutscenes
RespectThySole
Member
I think Halo 5 will be a great point to jump based on what I've played in the beta, but if you can't wait until then you can grab a MCC bundle.
Dynasty8
Member
When people call games like Reach and Halo 4 "garbage", it makes their whole input irrelevant.
You might've not enjoyed it as much as previous Halo's, but..."garbage"? Reach and Halo 4 IMHO offer a much better campaign than Combat Evolved.
SolarMystic
Member
Start with 2 or 3 then. Halo ce was fantastic in its time, and the gameplay still holds up, but the level design leaves a lot to be desired. Story and level design took a big leap after CE.
TheOhrenberger.
Banned
The MCC was made for people like you, OP. Just get it and play everything there.
LastChance2Frag
Neo Member
Hoping Reach gets announced as DLC for MCC at E3... abbreviation overload.
nogoodnamesleft
Banned
Pretty much. I went into halo 4 expecting horribleness after playing h1-3 and loving 1 and 3, but 4 was fantastic too.
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
The only moment in either Reach or Halol 4 that come close to the likes of stepping onto Halo for the first time, the beach assault, The control room scene, the flood reveal, Finding Keyes, returning to the PoA or The warthog run is "Lone Wolf" in Reach. I still don't give 2 shits about the reused mission areas because they always play vastly different from their first run through.
Comparing CE to Halo 4's go there and push that button campaign with press 'X' to win halos is particularly offensive.
Ignoring all that, the OP pretty clearly mentioned getting into the competitive side of Halo, in which case, avoid Halol 4, Halo 5 and everything in Reach besides ZBNS like the plague.
SolarMystic
Member
All personal opinions. Plus saying halo 5 is the plague when its not even released yet is premature and unwarranted.
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
Gee, I wonder where and when I heard that before.
Oh right, all right up to Halol 4's release and what did we get?
Says it all...
FrontalMonk
Banned
It seems I dropped quite the bomb yesterday with that first post. Allow me to clarify.
Personally, my favorite in the series as far as campaigns go is probably Reach. I loved the story, particularly because I knew how the ending would have to go, and seeing it take its course...it really felt like a swan song for Bungie, since it was their last game. 3 was just as good, but for different reasons. I disliked Halo 4 from the outset, and to date it's the only Halo game I haven't beaten.
The reason I said what I did is because that's how I feel as it concerns multiplayer, which is what OP was asking about. Reach was markedly different from Halo MP in 1-3 and not necessarily in a good way (although I suppose much of it depends on how you feel about armor abilities), and 4's multiplayer felt like 343 was chasing after what made CoD successful instead of trying to see what made Halo 1-3 successful and working from there.
ODST doesn't really count in that regard, since the multiplayer was just H3's with the map packs.
Personally, my favorite in the series as far as campaigns go is probably Reach. I loved the story, particularly because I knew how the ending would have to go, and seeing it take its course...it really felt like a swan song for Bungie, since it was their last game. 3 was just as good, but for different reasons. I disliked Halo 4 from the outset, and to date it's the only Halo game I haven't beaten.
The reason I said what I did is because that's how I feel as it concerns multiplayer, which is what OP was asking about. Reach was markedly different from Halo MP in 1-3 and not necessarily in a good way (although I suppose much of it depends on how you feel about armor abilities), and 4's multiplayer felt like 343 was chasing after what made CoD successful instead of trying to see what made Halo 1-3 successful and working from there.
ODST doesn't really count in that regard, since the multiplayer was just H3's with the map packs.
First response nails what a lot of the MP fans feel.
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MAX PAYMENT
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ignore this. Though i agree multi wise, H4 isnt as good as the others.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
HaloGAF was critical as hell of Halo 4 before it came out. People raised concerns about numerous things like kill streaks, perks, flinching, the new CTF, etc. And we ended up being right about a lot of it. Now folks are mostly excited for Halo 5, and from where I'm sitting they have every reason to be. It looks really fantastic. At this point my biggest concern is them continuing to use the Halo 4 style Steitzer announcements in multiplayer, lol.Gee, I wonder where and when I heard that before.
Oh right, all right up to Halol 4's release and what did we get?
Says it all...
Says it all...
I love that the "flatline" section on this chart is still around 20k daily players.
Wait, it's more than that, because it's the daily peak, meaning 20k concurrent players.
I always see this chart, which seems totally normal for any game. All games/multiplayer are heavily front loaded right?
do we have some charts like these for the other halos? And this chart is over the course of around 2 years, right? Having around 30 thousand daily players after 2 years, seems pretty good actually...
Got my first xbox ever last week thanks to that gamerscore / amazon promotion for the xbox one.
MCC was included and I have to say - I relly hated Halo CE!
I was so glad when I finished that game, but people told me that Halo 2 and 3 will be much better.
And how true that was! Halo 2 is pretty awesome and I loved every bit about it.
Just started with Halo 3 and I really love it as well already.
So yeah, like some people here said. Get that MCC!
Edit: Can't say much about the MP though. Everything I wrote was regarding the SP.
The people claiming that Reach and onward are "good, great, best" obviously aren't core Halo fans (which are admittedly in the minority now). It's kind of silly to say,"Ignore all those people that have played Halo longer and are more familiar with the series than I am. I remained ignorant and managed to have fun, so listen to me!" At this point in time, the series exists in name only.
Kssio_Aug
Member
The OP is not a "core Halo fan" though. So I don't think he HAS to listen them, to be very honest!
"Core" fans is usually what I would call "conservatives". Halo 4 is a really great game that some people will never give it deserved credit just because its not Bungie and because they took a different approach in some various aspects of Halo 1 to 3.
Me, just like the OP, am new to the series. I loved all the games but Halo 4 is my favorite!
Sorry if I'm not a " core Halo fan" but I'm happy being part of the new generation of Halo fans!
pantsonhead
Member
Damn new generation is ruinin' our halos!
Solidsoul
Banned
You don't get to universally judge what a Halo "core" fan is. You can try but you'll always be wrong as different people enjoy different things.
I have played Halo since the beginning and for me the series biggest let down was Halo 3. I also loved Reach and Halo 4. When it comes down to Halo the campaigns are what's most important to me, and they all have outstanding campaigns. The multiplayer goes from mind-blowing to just good across the series.
If you take what's considered the worst multiplayer (Halo 4) and put it along most other multiplayer's it's still a damn good time.
I recommend you play all of them OP, they are all good in there own way and letting other people judge them for you would be a shame. I too recommend The Master Chief Collection plus pay the additional $5 for ODST. It's the best way to play those games and get caught up for Halo 5: Guardians.
That will leave you with just Halo: Reach, Halo Wars, and the two mobile Halo games. In my opinion, Halo: Reach is a must but not essential to the main story. Halo Wars is great but is an RTS game and therefore nothing like the others. The two mobile games in my experience aren't really worth the time or money as they don't do anything interesting story wise and are kind boring but that's completely subjective.
I hope this all helps OP and welcome to this awesome franchise!
Oh really? People who liked H4 and Reach aren't core fans?
Apparently I'm not a core fan. Apparently I haven't been playing this series since 2002 and haven't spent thousands of hours in the multiplayer and haven't played through each campaign 10s of times.
Huh.
pantsonhead
Member
Isn't it nice when other people help you figure your life out like that. So helpful.
Halo is a wonderful serie, you should really get the Master Chief collection and play all of them from first to 4, that what i did too, cause i had not a original Xbox back then and i had played only halo 3, and Reach on Xbox 360, as i said i bought the MCC, played them all and now i can't wait for Halo5
Raptomex
Member
What? Reach is the best. I guess I'm not a core fan... I only own every single Halo game and have beaten them all. But if thinking Reach is the best for it's gameplay makes me not a "core fan". Ok, I'm not a fan.
That's what divides the casual from the core. The disparity in opinion is much less varied amongst core fans.
No, they're really not.
Guess not.
Kssio_Aug
Member
That's what divides the casual from the core. The disparity in opinion is much less varied amongst core fans.
No, they're really not.
Guess not.
So just accept the fact that Halo is not for you, royal core fan, anymore. And let the peasant casuals enjoy it and give their opinion to a new Halo player that is obviously not a "core" fan!
Thank god 343i is not doing games for people with such narrow mind anymore.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
As much as I wouldn't have said this a while ago, get the Chief Collection. Play through the campaigns.
More like, "says part of the story." Given there were more games (and shooters) than ever coming out at the time. Along with franchise fatigue, a brand new developer, no beta and more. But yeah, the popultion dropped like a rock.
More like, "says part of the story." Given there were more games (and shooters) than ever coming out at the time. Along with franchise fatigue, a brand new developer, no beta and more. But yeah, the popultion dropped like a rock.
Raptomex
Member
Well since you seem to be the ultimate judge on how to be a core Halo fan, pray tell, what is required to be a core Halo fan?That's what divides the casual from the core. The disparity in opinion is much less varied amongst core fans.
No, they're really not.
Guess not.
Signet Son
Banned
They are all great. Halo 5 is a great place to pick up. I'd say jump in now though with MCC
pantsonhead
Member
Not liking Reach, 4, or 343i. Gosh Rapt, it's like you weren't paying attention.
Signet Son
Banned
What????? Reach was awesome.
What 343 are doing > Bungie by a mile in my opinion.
That's what divides the casual from the core. The disparity in opinion is much less varied amongst core fans.
No, they're really not.
Guess not.
I'm really glad you don't seem to like the series' new direction.
The less people like you in the community the better.
Signet Son
Banned
Yep
Raptomex
Member
Oh, man. I was so close, too. Well fuck. I thought there was more to it.
[Call-Me-G]
Banned
Just the opposite. The newer games are tailored especially for narrow minds.
An objective mindset would be a good start. Once established, go through the Halo Canon in order of release. It's really that simple.
SEGAvangelist
Member
I don't think they ever will. Just switch to classic mode. It looks and runs better, IMO. Also, it's more of a slight distraction than anything else.
pantsonhead
Member
It is such a dark sorrow that we can only aspire to rise above our station, to dream of leaving the muddy waters and these barren fields behind and rise up and sit next to the lofty royal Core's. But alas dear Rapt, fate makes fools of us all.
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