AMD Radeon Fury X Series | HBM, Small Form Factor And Water Cooling | June 16th
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You want a "personal" note from AMD?
Well... there are marketing pictures showing the name of the card. Also given that the rumours are so prevalent now, it is almost guaranteed that the card will be called Fury.
What the hell, the 390 and 390X have the same amount of stream processors and there's a 1000+ processor gap between the 390 and 380?! If this is true AMD just made their own 390x irrelevant, and is not bothering to launch a mid-high end card :/
The 290x was always a card that provided less bang for buck than 290. This was exactly the same as the 7970 and the 7950. Nvidia typically (before the 980Ti) was the one that spaced out the top end card and the next best.
The 390 is probably a lower binned part, with less overclocking room and higher power consumption.
There's no incentive to buy the 390X over the 390 if this is true. They are identical, save for a 40Mhz drop in clock speeds. You could OC that back to 390X levels oñ even the crappiest overclockers :/ Power consumption difference must be massive...
Insane Metal
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I have no idea what this all means. The current 290s can already keep up with the 970 and are not far off the 980 either. The 390s seems like faster versions of those so how is this not a mid-high end card?
Edit: I misread. AMD has always done this though. Their non-X (or x50) versions usually were not far off from the full version of their chips making them a way better deal.
If those TDP and frequency numbers are right along with the rest of the specs, it looks like we're dealing with a Hawaii respin (or perhaps more than that). It's also possible AMD decided to go with Nvidia's TDP that gives more of an average game load instead of peak power draw.
You could do that to the 290 such that it gave 290x performance, the 7950 to 7970 performance. This card will be much more power and/or thermally limited to oc up to x versions because it contains the same number of stream processors.
It could also be an error.
Interesting that none of the codenames are the same as 2xx series.
- R7 360 - Tobago
- R7 370 - Trinidad
- R9 380 - Antigua
- R9 390(x) - Grenada
So you bought a card based on silence? I'm not saying the 980Ti is a bad card, far from it (I might end up with one myself) but it at least makes sense to see the full spectrum of offerings and pricepoints before making a purchase. If the leaks are true about benchmarks being available in about 10 days then we will very soon have all the information we need to actually make an informed decision.
That being said, I'm sure you will enjoy the 980Ti!
EmptySpace
Banned
why can't they just release basic info about this thing? seriously.
dgrdsv
Member
Well, they have to update *something* in these GPUs.
At least it suggests something beyond a simple rebrand or respin (for ex. 7970GE Tahiti XT to 280x Tahiti XTX). We'll see if it is just marketing however...
AMD doesn't have the luxury of making me wait 10 days. If they had anything at computex I probably would've waited but nope, there was nothing. NVIDIA had the 980ti ready and you were able to get reference cards almost immediately.
Nikodemos
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The number of shaders in the 360 is the same as the 260 (non-X), the 370 has the same amount as the 270, the 380 seems to be Tonga, while all flavours of 390 have the same number of shaders as the 290X. All the parts seem to have been upclocked (noticeably in 390's case).
We have updated the link with pictures of all cards from MSI.
We also have the suggested prices, but that's for Brazil... And you know how things go around here:
In the United States the R9 390X should cost somewhere between US$ 389 and US$ 429, if this report is correct
We also have the suggested prices, but that's for Brazil... And you know how things go around here:
- R7 370 2GD5T OC - R$ 970 (~US$ 311)
- R7 370 GAMING 2G - R$ 1.050 (~US$ 338)
- R9 380 2GD5T OC - R$ 1.300 (~US$ 417)
- R9 380 GAMING 2G - R$ 1.360 (~US$ 437)
- R9 380 GAMING 4G - R$ 1.470 (~US$ 472)
- R9 390X GAMING 8G - R$ 2.600 (~US$ 836)
In the United States the R9 390X should cost somewhere between US$ 389 and US$ 429, if this report is correct
sure. They're probably very similar but possibly with an upgrade to GCN 1.2. We could probably say more if we knew the die sizes. Tonga notably had a larger die than the gpu it was replacing.
Nikodemos
Member
I sure as heck hope so. While reusing the 260 with an upclock wouldn't be that bad, trotting out the same old tired 7870 with a fresh coat of paint is rather poor showing. Yes, the part probably costs pennies at this point, but GCN 1.0 is quite obsolescent by now, if not outright power-wise, then definitely in terms of feature set.
Shining Sunshine
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Hmmmm, I don't know if I can wait that long.
Is Skylake going to share the same chipset as Cannonlake?
That will be a nice price if it's faster than the GTX980 in virtually every scenario. The 8GB is really nice too.
Sir Abacus
Member
I thought the 390X was supposed to be 4096 SPs?
Nikodemos
Member
Yes, it seems to have gone down across the board. The 260 has a 95-watt TDP while the 360 is rated for 83 watts, with double the VRAM.
EDIT: 380 isn't based off 280(X), but rather 285. Note the similar 256-bit bus, a Tonga feature. 280 had a 384-bit bus, a Tahiti particularity.
Yeah, same here. My case is a little different since DVI is an absolute must have for me, but AMD sure didn't make it a tougher choice for me to buy a 980ti. Stupid 7 second teasers of a video card render don't do it for me, sorry.
No. That gpu (Fiji) is going to be the Fury variants. The 390x (Grenada) is an evolution (maybe, hopefully) of the 290x (Hawaii).
Curious to see what the Fury X with Air will cost. Possible for it to hit $499? There is going to be some sort of price gap otherwise.
The 4GB of video memory might be a sticking point though. Some games are pushing towards 4GB of usage in 1080P.
SolidSnakeUS
Member
I could see the air cooled Fury being like $500 and WC being $550 or $600.
You guys can't wait an extra 2 weeks with an exact reveal date (June 16th) before taking the plunge? Performance leaks in advance of major AMD releases are almost never accurate. I'm not in the market this launch, but if I were, I definitely would have waited. Not having any brand loyalty probably helps.
FF Seraphim
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Trinidad and Tobago? They should be for the higher end card names! I May be slightly bias...
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Looks like power draw has gone right down. Or AMD is being more sensible with the way they advertise these figures.
Got my eyes on that 8GB 390.
Got my eyes on that 8GB 390.
IchigoSharingan
Member
need Durante's input..
or the "greetings friend, have you heard the good news about PC gaming" fellow.
Irobot82
Member
Nah, they'll be the same as the 290x/290
Core configs
2560:160:64 - 290
2816:176:64 - 290x
The 290 is also binned a little. The 390/x will also be the same way, HOPEFULLY also updated to GCN 1.2
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6QdnMAfYHIQ
The guy in the video doesn't know that the AMD cards sync through the PCIE connection now. (No bridge required for crossfire)
The guy in the video doesn't know that the AMD cards sync through the PCIE connection now. (No bridge required for crossfire)
dgrdsv
Member
Not really. They've already renamed Pitcairn to Curaçao once with no other changes.
pettson3816
Member
"benchmarks coming soon" - YAY!
edit: in response to the video post above.
edit: in response to the video post above.
Mmm, yeah, I'd forgotten. Fingers crossed that they don't do the same thing here, but given the SP parity it isn't that good a sign.
that dude is misinformed about everything in general.
lol, yeah... surprised someone so uniformed goes out and blind buys a $450 card that has no reviews yet.
I'm pretty sure he's doing it because he's just as curious as everybody else. I know I would not mind buying it to post about it for curiosity.
Then again, it is quite popular to rag on anyone who buys an AMD product.
I think it has been popular since the dawn of the internet to rag on uninformed posters that seem to know very little, he seems convinced he is buying a 4096 SP card but knows little else beyond that (otherwise he would know that it uses a smaller PCB), calls a backplate a heatsink etc. He is also is definitely not a regular buyer of AMD graphics cards...
Definitely. I do appreciate his efforts. He may just be NVidia only. Keep in mind that at one point AMD and NVidia counted their processing units different before Kepler. So the CUDA cores count numbers were drastically different from AMDs stream processor count.
I'd donate a dollar or two if he set something up get back some money to cover the restocking fee or what not.
Not ragging on him because of his AMD purchase. I mean, I'm thinking of buying a Fury myself.
If he followed GPU developments closely and wanted to break news about these cards early, it would make more sense. But I doubt we'll be getting the full picture with his limited knowledge and I'd rather not see someone end up disappointed because they bought a product without waiting for official info.
it isn't even that. He thinks what he bought was the Fury which *is* rumoured to have 4096 SPs . The barest research before buying would have told him that it clearly isn't.
Had he known more, he would have looked at the size of the PCB and understood immediately.
He appears to be selling it on eBay now http://www.ebay.com/itm/XFX-DD-AMD-...763?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item51d28c43eb
Probably thought the 390X was Fury...
Probably thought the 390X was Fury...
