Woah, sorry, not "Dude-bro" in the Mt. Dew sense of the term, I guess I just meant dudes.
Giant Bomb @ E3 2015 | L.A. on Lockdown
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Woah, sorry, not "Dude-bro" in the Mt. Dew sense of the term, I guess I just meant dudes.
you don't have to be a snide cynic to see through a carefully considered ploy to link yourself to a bunch of GAF pleasing announcements that are either in a dubious development state or are only loosely affiliated to your console, none of which have anything resembling a release date, in order to distract from your barren release schedule.
DeadManWalking
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That GB conversation...they complain when killzone every 2 years comes out and now when GG have new IP they want same 1st party output to stay on same level.
SatelliteOfLove
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I think their cynicism is healthy, and the new hire is fitting in perfectly with it.
Yeah, hard to disagree with their arguments. The conference was great, but yeah there's still a lot to be concerned over.
Did they complain about what in regards to Microsoft this year? You just listed 4 first party games...
Gears is coming this year?
I agree look at ff7, that game as right now isn't even a game , it probably won't be even out by 2018.
thanks, it's some twilight zone shit going to gamespot, but they actually have some pep in their voice and don't sound like they don't want to be there
DeepEnigma
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Yet they were shitting on announced PS4 exclusives.
MSFT releases NOTHING first party so far this year like Sony has, saves a few sequels for this fall.
Sony releases first party throughout the year instead of the fall, and it is nothing?
Why not spin their narrative to ask why MSFT has nothing all year first party until the fall?
Resident4t.
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It's actually kind of depressing that people are finding the Sony conference impressive. A bunch of pandering and a bunch of 3rd party games. Yeah, that's really impressive.
Antiwhippy
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Like FF7 is cool and all but how long is that going to take? Seriously.
Also I'm not going to believe in the last guardian until that game boots off my console.
Also I'm not going to believe in the last guardian until that game boots off my console.
Good conference overall. Lots of heartstrings as Giantbomb said. But overall I am pretty underwhelmed by Sony's first party presence.
Horizon and UC4 are looking good, but they're coming in 2016. TLG looked meh to me. FFVII remake is fine and all but not first party, it doesn't differentiate the PS4 from Xbox and PC.
And what the hell was this Shenmue showing? A multi-million dollars company like Sony, launching a freaking kickstarter on their E3 press conference begging for our money? That a new low in my book. Didn't like it at all.
Overall the conference was well paced though and very entertaining. I just don't feel like I got much to look forward to.
Horizon and UC4 are looking good, but they're coming in 2016. TLG looked meh to me. FFVII remake is fine and all but not first party, it doesn't differentiate the PS4 from Xbox and PC.
And what the hell was this Shenmue showing? A multi-million dollars company like Sony, launching a freaking kickstarter on their E3 press conference begging for our money? That a new low in my book. Didn't like it at all.
Overall the conference was well paced though and very entertaining. I just don't feel like I got much to look forward to.
It's the same shit every year though and has been since the original xbox. Don't care if it's coming this year when it's the same four games over and over.
lolol what were you expecting? Austin did a great analysis of the conference and everybody agreed, that it was a great emotional press conference. There's still a lack of first party, especially for this year. And it's okay to talk about it.
Big-ass Ramp
hella bullets that's true
I agree mostly with them. I don't care for Final Fantasy, never played Shenmue, and am only curious about The Last Guardian. So while all of Neogaf is losing their mind, I'm kinda left not feeling it. I'm most excited for Forza, the Rare Collection, Mirrors Edge and Battlefront. So I see myself using my Xbox way more than the PS4 for the rest of the year.
Hyrule Warrior
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I don't disagree with some of their concerns about the lack of games this year, but the cynicism towards what was shown is fucking perplexing.
And yeah, another user on here made a great point, lol a bunch of guys complaining about no games to play this year, when none of them have beaten most games that have come out this year.
And yeah, another user on here made a great point, lol a bunch of guys complaining about no games to play this year, when none of them have beaten most games that have come out this year.
depends on the consumer. for let's say a more hardcore gamer with sufficient disposable income, between steam sales and everything coming out on it generally better and with more control schemes, it's kind of a no-brainer
nckillthegrimace
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Very exciting conference, but yes, Sony's first party lineup continues to be dire. If they're willing to facilitate these crazy dream games, then, honestly, I don't really care.
"If you're willing to pay the upfront cost..."
You really need to understand that most people aren't, Giant Bomb.
"If you're willing to pay the upfront cost..."
You really need to understand that most people aren't, Giant Bomb.
DontBeThatGuy
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They didn't seem particularly excited about any of those. So, please don't even suggest some kind of anti-playstation slant.
Nah, they're overreacting. As a normal adult who plays games I'm thrilled that three of the biggest MIA titles are going to be happening. Brad saying "I hope not" at the start of the show about the possibility of Shenmue 3 was really lame. I get that he doesn't like it, but there are a ton of people who enjoyed the first two games and have been vocal about wanting to see a third. It's just petty to groan about it.
TheExhaustedWalrus
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The fanboy in me wants to be very excited about TLG and the conference was a good time, but their points are extremeIy vaIid. I've aIways Iiked GB for keeping on a baIanced IeveI and not circIe-jerking over every IittIe thing.
AwakenedCloud
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Yeah, what Alex said seemed fair. I don't necessarily agree with it, but to each his own. Brad calling FF7R "A tremendous waste of resources" was in poor form though. That honestly just came of as salt.
Just entering pre-production I'm guessing.
razgriz417
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Same, not a whole lot besides 3rd parties this year for Sony (i'll be playing those on PC). Still I'm hyped for what they announced, Horizon looks great hope its a 2016 game, Uncharted 4 is a must, Last Guardian, idk
I'm in the camp that Sony blew everyone away with this conference, will be hard for Nintendo to top this
DeepEnigma
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That was a pathetic disingenuous rebuttal he had.
That could apply more to MSFT. Why by an XBox when you can get a Windows 10 machine?
a secret-boss
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I think it's pretty logical what they are saying what first party game was announced there that's coming out this year?
CG of FF7 to get you hype but that's it
Kickstarter of Shenmue
Sure last guardian is good
CG of FF7 to get you hype but that's it
Kickstarter of Shenmue
Sure last guardian is good
ScaryShark
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I don't even think they're that 'disappointed' just taking it all in calmly and talking about it normally. Skepticism is literally their job so it isn't surprising that is how they initially look at things.
njean777
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The thing is that nobody is arguing devils advocate. I mean it is really easy to argue Jeff over why somebody would pick a ps4 over a PC, it isnt hard and nobody on the crew is doing it at all. I love GB but saying "why buy a ps4 over a PC when steam sales are good" is just beyond easy to argue.
bean breath
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Dan and Alex were watching a stream of Monday Night Raw the whole time. Totally obvious.
Ok? And Sony has Uncharted and an acid trip. Uncharted Four
It's absolutely true that their own enthusiasm can be curbed by few first party stuff only it actually won't reflect much on sales unless i have underestimated Jeff magic crystal balls.
If by "everyone else" you mean preteens on twitter
Zen_Arcade
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Y'all are also viewing it through the scope of fans while they're trying to view everything from a business perspective.
Which makes sense, because we are all fans. But they, as journalists, have to view it from the business perspective as well. And they're pretty on point from that angle.
Which makes sense, because we are all fans. But they, as journalists, have to view it from the business perspective as well. And they're pretty on point from that angle.
Huh, I forgot about Raw.
To me, after seeing what ND did with The Last of Us, I would've rather have seen them put out a brand new IP than a fourth Uncharted game.
I loved all the Uncharted PS3 games and Uncharted 4 may be the game that gets me to buy a PS4 (if I don't own one at that point), the demo today looked fantastic, but I guess a new IP from ND would still be far more interesting to me. But hopefully that's what's due up next after Uncharted 4, so I don't mind a little extra wait.
Big-ass Ramp
hella bullets that's true
Haha. Even Alex said it was legendary. But it's still not enough
dr3upmushroom
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WrenchNinja
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Like we get it, you guys play all your stuff on PC. That's great.
i'm glad you found yourself right at the centre of a whiteboard.
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SlowRevolution
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just to be clear I don't think they're incredibly cynical or whatever, who gives a shit, they just seem understandably tired and not super entertaining. tuned out pretty fast so maybe the discussion improved.
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