I imagine a digital emulator
Xbox One adds Xbox 360 backwards compatibility
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I imagine a digital emulator
i checked you need the disk to play the game i tried to take it out while playing and it stopped immediately.
edit: also the list is incomplete i can play both kefling games, alien hominoid and n+ and toy soliders. (all of these were downloaded)
according to them your running an entire 360 on your XB1 to play these games, they say the only reason they don't have more games is because of licensing
edit: also the list is incomplete i can play both kefling games, alien hominoid and n+ and toy soliders. (all of these were downloaded)
according to them your running an entire 360 on your XB1 to play these games, they say the only reason they don't have more games is because of licensing
Yea, as it would as a 360 game. It won't pop Xbox One toasts.
Yep.
Macho Madness
Member
Well when you put it that way...
Caffeine
Gold Member
played banjo kazooie and the achievements pop up like they do on 360
Yes, they just emulate the compete Xbox 360 UI.
So you earn 360 achievements as you always have.
I just played the game before and have 150 / 1000 gamerscore for this game you just add to that.
Unlocked achievements are still unlocked and cannot be unlocked again.
WhiteRabbitEXE
Member
It's normal Xbox 360 achievements tied to your normal 360 achievement list, that pop like normal. No double dipping or anything either. They include a stripped down version of the 360 guide, complete with the Achievements section, parties, messaging, etc.
Flintty
Member
Very good point! I wonder if they are using some of the old DRM code for this? Or will it be that I can install the same disc on another drive? I'm at work but will try playing without the disc when I get home if nobody beats me to it.
Edit*
There it is. Shame, but we can't really complain.
The Sarcastic Dude
Banned
Are you able to transfer save data from the 360 to One?
You need disc in drive to play (unless digital).
StoppedInTracks
Member
Crazy.
Wonder how many months they worked on this emulation. Massive props to MS tech team but hey they created Windows Virtual PC so they know their shit.
I already expected this would technically be possible after Harmonix announced that you can transfer your Rock Band DLC between the two consoles, which already confirmed that digital content can be transferred between Xbox 360 and Xbox One, but I never expected discs to work.
You'll need the disc to play once it's installed. It's where the license would be stored if you don't own it digitally.
If the game supports cloud saves, yes. I think Super Meat Boy is the only game that doesn't support it right now.
TechnicPuppet
Nothing! I said nothing!
Upload to the cloud on the 360.
Zeyphersan
Banned
Think of it exactly like installing an Xbox One physical game. You can pop it into any console you want, even a million different ones and install it a million different times. But it can only be played with the disc in
Feel_The_Pain
Member
So, if a multiplayer game is included, would the online component work?
Macho Madness
Member
Yes, and you can play against those on Xbox 360.
A company called Transitive invented the technology back in 2007. They were Manchester University computer science students. They patented it, and sold it to IBM. It's also used in Apple Mac's, to run old PowerPC applications on Intel processsors.
Source: I went for a job interview with them, and my NDA expired.
Zeyphersan
Banned
That's what it's doing. The Xbox One is emulating the entire Xbox 360 system
And party up with them!
If you use the cloud saving yes seems so
The Sarcastic Dude
Banned
Yea. There is a survey in the Xbox Preview app that asks a question about how the multiplayer experience was if you tried it.
If the BC was universal (I.e. Played every 360 game right now) then I could see it encouraging 360 owners to upgrade, reassured that they can safely trade in their 360s but still play their favourite 360 games. I expect those would mostly be people that would be likely Xb1 buyers eventually, but it may speed that up.
Flintty
Member
Straight up voodoo shit going on there. Well done MS.
Sounds like they're recompiling the games then, rather than emulation on the fly. He said if you insert a 360 disc it will then download the game.
You've connected two different things. The download is for HDD times - the few things you have to account for (e.g. Blu-Ray reading DVD) the less you have to emulate.
Dreadnought
Member
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/DarkestSeptagon/video/3487418
For anyone curious about Mass Effects framerate, I do understand that everything is still a work in progress.
For anyone curious about Mass Effects framerate, I do understand that everything is still a work in progress.
StoppedInTracks
Member
They highlight this in the known issues on the FAQ, and claim (not sure if true) the frame drops happen on 360 too.
Emperor Bohe
Member
Why do the developers have to approve each game before Microsoft can make it available? I don't think that's something that had to be done with the OG Xbox emulation on 360. Why would licensing matter when we already own the games on 360? I'm just mad that I may never get Outrun and After Burner because of this.
Also, what happens when you put in that XBLA disc that used to come with 360s and had geometry wars? I think it was called Xbox Live Unplugged
Also, what happens when you put in that XBLA disc that used to come with 360s and had geometry wars? I think it was called Xbox Live Unplugged
Flintty
Member
It is more than that.
My son has been playing online 360 games with his friends for a year. One of them recently had a breakage on their 360 and his father upgraded him to Xbox One. Now he cannot play with my son and their other friend. With this announcement, it will be possible, tiding my son over till Xmas when he will get his upgrade. Then there is the bonus of his additional digital games he has been getting for free - he retains them on his X1 and so does his friends. His third friend was ready to jump to PS4. But being able to play with them still on 360 will no doubt encourage him to stay put and eventually buy into X1.
BC is encouraging people to make the jump and making it easier to do so. It bloody amazing. It's more than about selling systems - it's about people buying into the ecosystem and staying there.
Caayn
Member
Whoooo that's the best news after BC being even there. Going to replay through LO and BD again once this goes live
Chucke1992
Banned
By the way
does Xbox 360 emulation mean I can play xbox original titles(because xbox 360 allowed to do as far as I heard) on xbox one?
If so....then does that mean that XBOX has become ONE? One Xbox for all? lol All Might Xbox?
does Xbox 360 emulation mean I can play xbox original titles(because xbox 360 allowed to do as far as I heard) on xbox one?
If so....then does that mean that XBOX has become ONE? One Xbox for all? lol All Might Xbox?
Licenses and such. Stuff like music, thrid party software solutions or likenesses of a person may only be available for distribution for so many years and be tied to certain criteria. They would need to OK it so they're not hit with some sort of infringement.
This must be direct emulation of the entire game OS?
Played Toy Soldiers this morning, had quite a few 360 titles sitting waiting to be installed
Old gamesave still there, leaderboards and multiplayer all intact, achievements pop like normal, I even unlocked a gamerpic.
Colour me impressed, look forward to more titles.
Played Toy Soldiers this morning, had quite a few 360 titles sitting waiting to be installed
Old gamesave still there, leaderboards and multiplayer all intact, achievements pop like normal, I even unlocked a gamerpic.
Colour me impressed, look forward to more titles.
I did not! I got through to second interview but totally botched it during a practical session. It was a while ago, though, and ultimately they sold the technology to IBM so I probably would have lost my job.
The tech is crazy. They, in real time, translate PowerPC to x64. Full CPU emulation across processor type. Here's the Mac version: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosetta_(software)
I'll eat my hat if this is still straight up hardware emulation, but if they managed that I wanna see the fucking technical documentation because that is insane. But because they're handling all BC through digital titles (discs just prompt you to download the digital version) there is going to be some distribution rights nonsense to deal with because Microsoft can't just give away that software.
I still can't believe this is works without recompiling the games in same fashion. Otherwise it makes zero sense to force people to download digital versions of the game, if they can use the HDD from the Xbox One as a 360 HDD they have to still have access to the disc drive.
soul creator
Member
It would be nice if you could actually run the main Xbox 360 dashboard as well. Would make buying games a lot easier, especially if they don't fix the issue where you can't currently use Xbox credit on the web store
intheinbetween
Member
so, do we get to play region free 360 games?
Feel_The_Pain
Member
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
So tales of vesperia and blue dragon working already?