E3 2015 | Nintendo Digital Event

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mclem

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As a point of order about the puppets; no, not the lead puppets, the extras:

This is Eddie Watts:

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...and this is Mancie O'Neill:

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Both from That Puppet Game Show. Recognise them?

Those are real, Henson puppets.
 

Kapi96

Member
Actually, hold up a fucking second...

Why didn't they mention Splatoon?
That games been getting tonnes of hype, lots of positive press, not one mention? Weird as hell.

Yeah, very weird indeed. Would have been a brilliant opportunity to show that off and some of the upcoming content for it.
 

Sendou

Member
Yeah, very weird indeed. Would have been a brilliant opportunity to show that off and some of the upcoming content for it.

Like what? We know how the next three or so stages will look like and we already know the next five weapons or so.
 
Obviously, I'm playing armchair quarterback here, but I just thought of something.

Nintendo came into this knowing how poor their lineup was. They obviously knew.

They should have folded this event into the Nintendo World Championship. Mario Marker was already there, and did a far better job selling the game than what they showed today. The Metroid Soccer Mech thing was there.

In the event today, there was like, what, 20 minutes of actual information about games? They should have used the NWC as a way to soften the blow. Show us the trailers between rounds or something.

I mean, it's not a great solution, but it would have ade the whole thing slightly better overall.

Also, I don't agree with those saying Miyamoto has to go. That would be one of the worst things to happen to Nintendo and gaming as a whole. The problem is the Nintendo bubble. Most times, it's fine that they all just kinda do their own thing. As long as you can support that, it's not a problem. The issue is they're not willing to break that bubble from time to time. And when they do try something out of the ordinary for them, they do it only on their terms. (Again, that's fine. Splatoon, for example, is a shooter on Nintendo's terms).

I think we can see the Nintendo Bubble with Super Mario Maker. I will buy the hell out of that game day one. However, I think Nintendo translates their love for making games to the gaming population as a whole. You can see how much the Devs from Nintendo love making games. It's infectious, yes, but it's not a system seller. I will probably never make a level in that game, but I'll play the heck out of whatever anyone else makes.

It's like they know what people want, but they'll only give it to the fans on their terms. You want more hardcore Mario? Literally, make it yourself, because we don't want to. You want more Metroid? Let's reskin some 4-on-4 shooter and pretend it's in the Metroid universe.

My mom used to teach. One of the thing she'd tell her class all the time sums up Nintendo well: "You're hearing, but not listening!"
 

docbon

Member
I was literally shaking with anger during that conference. Tears formed in my eyes and my fists were clenched. "Announce something," I shrieked at my computer. My mom knocked on my bedroom door and had to ask if I was ok. Then, they started showing me a bunch of losers playing instruments dressed as Mario and I just turned it off. It was actually unbelievable.

Now, I'm 31 years old and this was, without a doubt, the worst conference I've ever seen in my life. It's clear that Nintendo is not just done with the Wii U but done with the company. There is no recovering from a conference that bad. They'll talk about the NX at next E3, but people will ignore it after remembering Blast Balls.

I loved this company and put my heart and soul into dedicating my gaming life to them. But now, I have nothing. I'm an empty shell.

god tier
 

EmiPrime

Member
The reaction to the event would have been very different if there was a Metroid Prime and Animal Crossing game on Wii U.

Who wanted a Metroid Prime universe coop game on 3DS and an Animal Crossing board game? Nobody. This was completely tone deaf of them.
 
That was Nintendo's worst E3 presentation in a long time. Compared to the Smash Direct and the Nintendo World Championship, the Digital Event just fell completely flat.


Koizumi confirmed that EAD Tokyo's next 3D Mario game was in development back in April 2014, but he wouldn't say what system it was for.

I think we can take a guess now
 

Cindro

Member
I really have issues with people calling the Metroid game garbage. It might not be the Metroid game you wanted (and I agree that it's a disappointing use of the IP) but the developer behind it is rock solid. They have been getting better with each game too. Luigi's Mansion 2 knocked it out the park.
Yeah, I know, I know. Mario Strikers, Punch-Out!! Wii, and Luigi's Mansion 2 are all fantastic.

And, dammit, this game IS looking like tons of fun on the Treehouse stream.

I'm still just working through the feelings of rage and disappointment that Metroid isn't being used in the way we were all hoping/expecting.
 

Warnen

Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!
Think I'm done with Nintendo, the over dependance on aiimbo has saturated just about everything they make now.

You can't buy them, you can't get games with out them in it and they are doing more then ever now (content locked behind them, games unplayable with out them ect..)



I'm out.
 
The most fascinating thing here is for me, how after the colossal failure that the Wii U has been, and after this digital event, people here are still looking forward to the NX.

I think, I will never ever buy anything Nintendo again. And I have been a loyal fan up to the Wii.

You people remind me of a beaten housewife coming back for more again and again.

The party is over, people, go home.

The NX won't change that.

For me, WiiU is the first truly awful Nintendo machine I've bought. I'd defend the original Wii any day. So, if they get their shit together with NX, I'll just pretend the WiiU never happened. And I actually also want the WiiU to end, since the whole tablet concept is completely idiotic and I don't want any more of the (very few) good WiiU titles being locked to this console into eternity because of the touch screen requirements.

I'm also hoping that they somehow combine their console- and handheld software lines already (3DS is already full of home console-esque shit) and they've hinted at some kind of system which might do that. That might finally reduce the droughts and I could forgive certain franchises not being always strong, so really, if NX looks somewhat competent and promising, plus completely separating itself from everything WiiU-related (on the surface), I'll turn a blind eye on the WiiU.
 

Number_6

Member
Define proper system.

I just said proper system because someone else was talking about a "proper" Animal Crossing entry.

I meant a mainline home console. That thing where each company releases one per gen (slims aside).

Anyway, you already had a definition in mind, since you said Wii U wasn't one.
 

big_erk

Member
Well you can aim with normal controls at least. Looks like the cockpit view will change the reticule on the main screen as well
https://youtu.be/RvinW1fKxxk

Yeah, that's how it looks to me. As far as I can tell, both views offer the exact same information. It's just a matter of which you prefer. Kind of like a racing game tha offers a behind the car perspective and a in the cockpit perspective.
 

NahaNago

Member
It was pretty bad man. I'm usually a little biased with Nintendo even though I try not to be and it was just....terrible....

Possibly worst conference ever. They shouldn't have even shown up to this E3.

i agree they should have skipped the conference and only had treehouse thing maybe do a direct next month for that devil game.
 
I hope y'all are Amiibo fans because otherwise there was little new stuff worth a damn here.

Also, Nintendo? FUCK YOU. That's is not what anybody meant by "bring back Metroid".

Christ!
 
Okay, so that event was so bad, it sorta convinced me that they're being forced by the pressure from stockholders to just cash in on the brands they have rather than make proper sequels to their games a priority.

Not sure of that's true, but it just gave me that feeling.
 

Molemitts

Member
I know there's the "They have Nintendo Directs all year round" argument and I would agree in previous years that it's a good reason for why their E3 events are a bit less eventful now. But this one was particularly bad. Even most of their plain Nintendo Directs show off more than this. It's still clear that Nintendo thinks their E3 Direct is important because of the production value of them and the Tree House show.

I'm not mad anymore though. I was mostly upset about Animal Crossing. I hope they can kill it next year, because it seems like they're moving their efforts on to future hardware.
 
That requires $13 figures (that you will literally never see on a store shelf) to play.
Exactly.

Even if you're an Amiibo fan (which this digital event provided in spades to them) there's still the matter of scarcity and scalpers that will prevent you from enjoying a game fully.

Nintendo had the worst conference this year.
 

Illucio

Banned
SSB DLC and Earthbound did raise my expectations for this digital event though.

My minimal Expectations for the digital event:

They had zero excuses to release Mother 3 (especially when the person who made the fan translated version offered up his translation for the game.)

Zelda U could had least been given a title with nothing else shown.

Showed us a few small upcoming DLC updates for Splatoon.

Tell us that 1 new Smash Bros DLC character is planned like Mewtwo was, so we had something to go off on for the Summer.

A Nintendo game port/Remaster of anything for 3DS or Wii U.

Dragon Quest 8 3DS Western release

Braverly Default 2

Pokemon main handheld title.

Apology for Amiibo Shortages
 
Honestly,I think I'm done with Nintendo.

I want to believe that the NX will be a good console with great online features, and great 1st & 3rd party suppurt, with no gimmicks and no amiibo shit.

But Nintendo will be Nintendo, and the NX will most likely be underpowerd, and it won't have the online features or 3rd party suppurt in the same scale of the PS4 & XBO.

I grew up with Sony, but I loved Nintendo more as a kid, what made me love Nintendo was there games, but I always hated there consoles, the only console I didn't hate was GC & GBA.

I'm sure we're still far off from this, but the day they annonce they're going 3rd party, will be a good day.
 
Okay, so that event was so bad, it sorta convinced me that they're being forced by the pressure from stockholders to just cash in on the brands they have rather than make proper sequels to their games a priority.

Not sure of that's true, but it just gave me that feeling.

I think it has more to do with needing to support two platforms with little to no third party support. That means you get alot of games that are created from existing assets and engines. These projects are quick to finish and help to cover up the major underlying issue: Nobody outside of Nintendo wants to make games for Nintendo hardware anymore.
 

Xun

Member
It would be nice if Nintendo were to reward the loyal customers who bought a Wii U, especially after it would seem they're about to kill it off so soon.
 

Seventy70

Member
Coming to Wii U: Animal Crossing....board game!
Coming to 3DS: Metroid.....Shitty looking game
Coming to 3DS: Zelda.....Hyrule Warriors
Coming to 3DS: Zelda........lame looking spin off!


It's like they were trying to troll or something.
 

SigSig

Member
Treehouse once again showing how people are exaggerating things to hell and back.
The presentation was lame, the games look really neat.
 

Sendou

Member
I think it has more to do with needing to support two platforms with little to no third party support. That means you get alot of games that are created from existing assets and engines. These projects are quick to finish and help to cover up the major underlying issue: Nobody outside of Nintendo wants to make games for Nintendo hardware anymore.

Pretty much. That's why their all focus should be on launching their unified platform (think iOS between iPads and iPhones) with a bang. 3D Mario, Metroid, Animal Crossing... These are the kind of big names that have to be there right from the start.
 

DeathPeak

Member
AAA third party games will never sell well on a future Nintendo console. I don't see how Nintendo will benefit too much from them from a business stand point.
 

RK128

Member
Just caught up with the Direct. Like many, I'm very disappointed by them AGAIN only drip feeding games to their Wii U audience. Yes, we know the 3DS is doing far better and that Japan is moving away from consoles, but that doesn't give you the right to keep slapping the people who did buy a Wii U (on day one even) in the face year after year by skipping that platform Nintendo, especially after you helped the Wii U to become a failure in the first place through confusing marketing etc. At least give us loyal buyers who stuck with you one or two new games to look forward to in 2016 apart from Zelda!

Speaking of which, the Zelda games are a good example of how they seem to be distributing their efforts so unevenly. Counting the remakes, that newly announced Four Swords style Zelda game and the port of Hyrule Warriors will be the fourth and fifth(!) Zelda games on 3DS while the Wii U only received one game so far (a remake) while we will have to wait and see if the main Wii U entry will stay on that platform exclusively. Fire Emblem: even worse with two recent games on 3DS and only a (very Japan focused) spinoff game for Wii U. Metroid: sigh...

Some other disappointments in random order:
- Where was Project Guard?
- Where was Project Giant Robot?
- Where was Mother 3 in localized form?
- Where was the tease for a new F-Zero (come on, if Mario Tennis can come back without bringing anything new to the table, why does F-Zero require gameplay innovation when people just want to race in HD and online)?
- Where are DLC packs 3 and 4 for Mario Kart 8?
- Where was any new Splatoon DLC or a more detailed road map at least?
- Where were any other new Splatoon-type, garage projects for Wii U, if teased only?
- Where was Super Mario Sunshine HD or any other Gamecube remaster (especially after building that tech for Wind Waker)?
- Where was the apology for the continued amiibo shortages?
- Where was the new amiibo centered game, like Nintendo Land 2?
- Where was the new console Metroid or 3DS 2.5D game at least?
- Luigi's Mansion 3 for Wii U?
- Kid Icarus Uprising 2 / remaster for Wii U?
- Any new Mario game that is not Mario Maker and not on 3DS, even if just a tease?
- No new Punch-out after all, not even after that pre-E3 teaser with Reggie in his pink trainers?
- No new big Retro game?
- No new big Next Level game?
- No new Mega Man game with Capcom?
- No new Platinum game (after everybody and their dog seems to be getting something from them)?

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You bring up many, many points :l. I mean, I could easily see KI: Uprising, LM: Dark Moon, Mario Sunshine and Paper Mario TTYD getting Wii U versions with 1080p/60FPS. That would have been great, as people would have been so happy to get better versions of great tittles.

Nintendo did announce a few of your points:
-Next Level is making that 3DS Metroid tittle
-Platnium is co-developing Star Fox Zero
-While not a 'huge' deal, Mario Tennis is coming to Wii U this fall
-That Animal Crossing game is the 'seller' for amiibo...despite doing a shit job doing so :l. Instead, it makes the figures literal on-disk DLC ala the Mario Party Wii U features.

I am dumb-founded they didn't announce new Splatoon, Smash or Mario Kart 8 DLC :l. All of them are great sellers and by this point, it would be simple making that content. My big expectations for their digital event was a cross-over DLC pack for Mario Kart, Wolf to be announced for Smash in celebration for Star Fox Zero and Splatoon getting some single player DLC. Again, really surprised none of them popped up....unless those teams are gearing up for NX-versions of those games.

If so, welp, thats something :l.
 

AniHawk

Member
I'm sure we're still far off from this, but the day they annonce they're going 3rd party, will be a good day.

nintendo's in a transition mode to their next system, which by all means should be releasing in 2016 at this point. the point of that system is to have stronger support and let the consumer decide the form factor.

nintendo going third party will be pretty disastrous if you ever expected anything good on a consistent level from them again. but i guess if you're a fan of stuff like metroid prime federation force, you'll be super excited. i can't see more than brand names slapped on games in that kind of future.
 

Nibel

Member
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Think I gathered my thoughts and yeah: if you've been following recent Nintendo news and learned about their future plans, you could have expected this being slightly underwhelming E3 showing. Personally though, I didn't expect it to be this lackluster. It was such a bizarre presentation.

Don't get me wrong: people complaining about the Digital Event format have no clue what they are talking about; the presentation and pacing are faster than every other show. The production is very good without taking too much time.

The huge issue this year was content, and damn it showed.

I have no idea why they chose to show another long Yoshi's Wolly World segment after having done a good one last year. This one was like 5-10 minutes long and was really scratching the bottom when it comes to this game. Then there is Xenoblade which they have spent so much time on as well. The Skylanders segment was pure boredom, and while I understand the economic background of why they do this it was way too long and should have been explained in a separate video. Then there was so much stuff we already knew about, be it through international media or through leaks like Yokai Watch or Hyrule Warriors 3DS - and honestly, that game is not a E3-tier game to me.

The other stuff didn't look so great either. I want to see the appeal of that Fire Emblem x SMT game but man this looks as cringeworthy as 90% of the Vita library and didn't fill me with any confidence. I expect the game to be good considering who is working on it, but the style might put me off. I have no fucking clue who greenlit that Animal Crossing Party game, for fucks sake sometimes it's better to do the obvious thing like an actual console AC instead of something different. The YouTube like-stats say it all really, and same goes for that disgrace of a Metroid game that doesn't even feature Samus Aran. Like are you for real? One of your most requested franchises and this is how you present it to your fans? By including the most generic robots available and add tacky stuff like wannabe-E3-BlastBall that will probably be boring after 3 rounds? For fucks sake. This was a premier franchise once.
And the conference ending was underwhelming as well and damn I saw those Nintendoland fireworks comparisons all over Twitter and agree completely; you can't close your big E3 show with a community project.
The Mario Tennis, Mario RPG and Zelda games looked good, but again: those are Mario and Zelda games, of course they do. And these weren't enough to undo the negative impression I had.

StarFox was the highlight of the event, and the way they included Mario Maker into the event by showing off Mario's costumes was pretty smart. The Mario Maker segment itself was utterly brilliant and mindblowing; seeing them talk about the original games and how they were designed and seeing those original design documents with corrections and edits - amazing. But I understand that not everybody can appreciate this.

I still believe that the format itself is fantastic and the puppets skits were entertaining, but damn this was embarrassing in terms of content. I didn't expect Shenmue 4 and a Super Mario 64 remake since I always knew that their E3 2016 stuff will be way more important, but damn, I was still letdown. NX, QoL and their mobile stuff; the Wii U sales and the 3DS' age; they all overshadow everything that they are doing right now and today it was painfully obvious. It's not bad like it was in early Wii U days, but yeah, still pretty bad and compared to the the majority of the other conferences easily the weakest.

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2015 is more or less done when it comes to huge announcements I feel. Nintendo, you better bring it in 2016. They are standing in front of the biggest challenges they ever had and I hope they will master them.
 
It's kind of crazy seeing that people walked into this Event expecting anything massive for WiiU to be announced. I genuinely expected them to ignore the system entirely, and focus on 3DS software.

Animal Crossing Party looks more attractive to me than a new AC. It's a new concept, instead of another retread on the same material. New Paper Mario also looks extremely promising. Super Mario Maker continues to look outstanding.

It was a dull show. But considering Nintendo's position, it made a lot of sense. 2016 will be a make-or-break year for them.
 
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