Charlouie Jonesman
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In Peace Walker they explicitly said he was 39 and that took place 10 years prior to TPP.
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In Peace Walker they explicitly said he was 39 and that took place 10 years prior to TPP.
That would be nice foreshadowing/a nice parallel.
Ah, good stuff thanks. I guess this does work out! I'm impressed, Kojima.
Phat Michael
Banned
That trailer didnt really sell me that well. I still havent finished Ground Zeroes yet :/ I have no idea what the story is about or what is really going on.
living for 80 years is impossible?
LowParry
Member
Wait, Miller is blind? He certainly doesn't seem like it from trailers.
ShadowKingpin
Member
He isn't blind.
matrix-cat
Member
I honestly hope they don't do that. It's bad enough that Huey is just the same character as Otacon again, I don't need him following all the same plot points, too.
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I entirely get why fans are excited for TPP. I want to be...but GZ narratively just didn't grip me and there's just a lot of variables at play here.
I played MGS 1-4, missed PW and I just felt the GZ didn't make an effort to give me an intial hook in to the story and from everything I've seen TPP is even more broad and epic in scope. Epic is great! But I just feel it's a party going on and I don't know anyone whose invited me or what the party is despite trying.
Its weird too as usually I love complex, deep tales and this kind of almost spaghetti western backdrop is right down my alley.
As a battered and bruised, irradiated, mutilated, sought-after soldier?
For this guy, I don't think it's likely.
Not impossible, though, obviously.
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
Are you forgetting the parts where he gets basically rebuilt into a cyborg two times after Metal Gear?
That would be very cool. Reminds me of Fable and Knights of the Old Republic.
Corpsepyre
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Can someone post the color corrected version of the trailer on Gamersyde? It's fucked, just like the PSX Uncharted one was.
swearing-circle
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Key thing here is that you missed peace Walker. MGS isn't as complicated as people think but it is a long running franchise and hence there's a requirement that you play certain games in the series to fill gaps in your knowledge.
I recommend watching peace Walker on youtube if you don't want to play it.
MGS5 is the most excited I've been for an mgs plot since MGS2 purely because of how crazy and thematic it seems to be.
I am. I haven't actually played Metal Gear or Metal Gear 2, even though I know the gist of what goes on in them. I've obviously really missed some key stuff.
I've got the MGS HD Collection so I'll be playing through MG1 and MG2 on MGS3 before TPP drops.
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
Marty-esque
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In the US, immigrants have historically assimilated and consider themselves American.
The irony.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
I honestly don't think it's quite as cut and dried as that. It's not like immigrants completely shed their cultural identity when they move to US, however much a certain subsection of Americans would like that.
But is he? It's not just a Japanese point of view, it's also a point of view that is voiced by a character in the early 80s, is it not?
It's all explained in MGS4, actually.
Marty-esque
Member
They don't shed their cultural identity but they still assimilate. Which is different from multiculturalism, where there is a lack of assimilation.
I read some stuff people wrote about MGS4 recently and... I'm pretty sure I blanked 99% of that game's story out. The highlights just weren't worth the narrative troughs.
I barely remember any of the last hour. I remember seeing Big Boss and thinking "for christ's sake. For christ's sake" because it was just another fucking name drop, just another reference, seemingly for reference's sake. Even though I know his appearance was actually pretty well written and quite poignant, I just didn't care by that point.
kenjigreat
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I remember playing MGS 4 and once the Submarine sparring was over . I thought the game was over . Boy was I wrong . 90mins of Cutscene left.
Dick Justice
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It was fucking ridiculous and I don't know how anyone could defend it.
I really want to reply MGS4 before TPP but seriously after Act 2 I think I'll just have to turn it off. The massive install size didn't help either.
Seen this before and it is great.
But Snake doesn't die anyway, right? Doesn't he survive or his gun misfires or something ridiculous? 'Sake man.
Snake doesn't die in MGS4, but considering the bad shape he was in by the ending and how there almost certainly won't be another MGS game starring Solid Snake, he might as well be dead.
I think he might actually be dead by the time MGR happens. They kind of skirt around it in some of the dialogue.
Dick Justice
Banned
The final conversation after the credits suggests that he's a dead man walking anyway.
kenjigreat
Banned
I'm saving this image , Its golden.
kenjigreat
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Its a great game , just quite ridiculous.
Gun Animal
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I'm currently editing my final MGSV megatrailer, as I've done for the past two E3's. It's a recut of all MGSV footage in what I believe to be chronological order with annotations explaining my decisions, and it's going to be over an hour long, and probably two hours depending on how long the gameplay demonstration in the next couple days is.
In the meantime, do we have any working theories about how
It's the only scene in any of the trailers I can't place at all. Other than that, the plot actually seems pretty straight-forward.
In the meantime, do we have any working theories about how
Paz could still be alive?
MiamiWesker
Member
This is perfect!
I agree, if the game would have ended at the credits most everyone that is now an MGS4 hater would have loved it but that one scene is so bad it ruined the whole game for a lot of people.
What the hell was the point in him not dying?
For god's sake, the entirety of MGS4 just reeks of creative misdirection and poor decision making. I love Kojima and I believe he's immensely talented, but it's like he didn't want to commit to any one style, or genre, or storyline, so he just fudged the whole experience.
TPP is shaping up much better from what we already know re game structure, game design and story.
Bigboss242
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In rising they mention snake in the past tense. He is dead. In the japanese version of rising you can get a sword with the ghost of snake infused.
kenjigreat
Banned
I liked 4 , there are just some scenes that dragged on way too long , if you plan on watching the cutscenes , BRING LOTS OF POPCORN.
NOT NEARLY as BAD as Mass Effect 3.
I don't know what else you wanna see in the gameplay. We've seen quite a bit.
Yup. My immediate impression watching the trailer was "He's describing Canada, isn't he?" which is kind of odd.
Hopefully this is leading up to Canada turning out to secretly having been Outer Heaven all along.
kenjigreat
Banned
NANOMACHINES SON.
Always wanted to use that.
Cloning seems to be the most fan favorite theory so far.
MAX PAYMENT
Member
What? I don't remember this.
Metroidvania
People called Romanes they go the house?
Possibly it could be
clones/sisters/other 'paz' agents who all look the same
Other than that, who knows.
Look forward to it immensely!
And no. She could be part of Les Enfants Terribles, perhaps a pilot test for the cloning tech. Or she could just be a hallucination, but it looks like others can see her, too. Or it might not be Paz.
In truth, I still liked it, too. Especially the gameplay over the longer Acts 1 and 2. What a masterpiece
if we only look at gameplay
Holdfing
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kenjigreat
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I think that was really a WTF moment in the trailer . Its a pity that those that didn't play Peace Walker and Ground Zeroes will not experience any shock value.
njean777
Member
Well the game hinted pretty strongly that snake was going to die no matter what he did. Just because Kojima didn't make him blast himself in front of everybody doesn't mean he isn't dead. People have a weird fascination for having to see everything these days.