Marty-esque
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But then again, Hallucinations and reality aren't that far apart in this series.
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Metal Gear Solid V E3 2015 Trailer
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Graphics Horse
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Oh those, I think they're just guns/lasers whatever. Similar to the two on GANDER. Not sure what to think about Yong's idea of them being batteries, lol.
Crossing Eden
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I was of the opinion that Skullface isn't real during the part where BB is being held upside down, or when he's in the truck passing by the dead bodies. BB's looks like he's ignoring him in the latter especially.
Graphics Horse
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But that would mean BB is just travelling with XOF or whoever those guys are.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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I've listened to Elegia pretty much every day since.
Crossing Eden
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Well since Huey at some point is in the hanger with the metal gear, I assumed that it belongs to Diamond Dogs, not XOF, and that Diamond Dogs was the one doing the burnings. Could be mistaken.
It's really Big Boss.For the people who think Skull Face is not real, how would you explain this scene?
In all seriousness though, I don't know what to think of the whole Big Boss imagination theory.
Shmuppers
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For the people who think Skull Face is not real, how would you explain this scene?
Na-na....
Nano..machines?
Love Deterrence
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For the people who think Skull Face is not real, how would you explain this scene?
He could die and be an illusion later, tho tbh
Crossing Eden
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Real or similar to the way a very recent AAA game handled alternate personas. Not saying that Skullface doesn't exist at all, but some of the scenes they showed hint at him not being real in those specific scenes. Like when BB is hanging upside down after being caught by presumably Eli.For the people who think Skull Face is not real, how would you explain this scene?
1. There's no reason for him to not be both alive and an illusion.
2. There is also no reason that he could be real at some point, die, and then haunt BB has an illusion.
It's not like we haven't just scene a recent game do this type of thing.
minameissteve
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If I were a gambling man, I would bet Zero's dialogue spliced with that scene of the mammal pod could indicate that XOF, or whoever works for Zero, plans on eventually stealing it, leading Sigint to use it for the basis of the Patriots AI system.
Considering the AI is meant to replicate the Boss's will, it would seem to match perfectly with Zero's vision, until it eventually comes up with its own vision with the creation of the war economy, misinterpreting her will and contrasting with Big Boss's.
Doctor_Thomas
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Skullface is probably going to be omnipresent as Big Boss falls further into insanity. Real and a mental apparition created in his head, with it becoming harder to separate them as the game progresses
I've also decided that, based on Skullface's backstory, his vocal performance delivery is perfect.
right up to the final fight with him.... which turns out to be Solid Snake spraying you with a lighter and aerosol can.
I've also decided that, based on Skullface's backstory, his vocal performance delivery is perfect.
Crossing Eden
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Like basically every other voice in the game, it sounds like a dub imho instead of like a natural voice.
Screaming Meat
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That's because you have excellent taste.
Doctor_Thomas
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That's why I think it works for him, due to having no "voice" of his own.
Probably not intentional.
Crossing Eden
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Yea I don't think that's what they were going for. The delivery in this game really sticks out in an era where acting in video games is no longer laughably bad the majority of the time due to actors being able to act out their roles via mocap.
Doctor_Thomas
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Yeah, it's kind of weird that the whole game is probably, in tech and gameplay terms, up there with the best, but the voice work is just so... meh.
I still think Kiefer Sutherland is decent, but his voice sounds completely weird in the mix compared to everyone else.
Crossing Eden
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Frankly I don't blame the actors. I've seen Troy Baker in enough modern games to know that he is better than lines like this where it doesn't sound anything like how a person would actually talk.
The Silver
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For the people who think Skull Face is not real, how would you explain this scene?
obviously we're seeing it as SkullFace but it's actually Big Boss
yep, im cereal,
but really my mind did go to that when I first saw it lol
Love Deterrence
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Crossing Eden
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Just to give a comparison. See how natural that sounds?
Love Deterrence
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Sounds fine in both, but I don't care for Uncharted so
PrinceOfWhatever
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I think he sounds like Revolver Ocelot would sound alike. I mean he's giving him instructions and stuff, that explains the sharp tone. It's sound way more natural than AC Unity's english accent, to give a current example.
For the people who think Skull Face is not real, how would you explain this scene?
a Wizard did it
Uncharted video? You've done it now.
AgentLampshade
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I think those rock protrusions that occur in the trailer are of the same material as Snakes horn. Would explain the growth. Not seen that theory passed round yet so I thought I'd throw it out.
Crossing Eden
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Quite frankly i'm not a fan of Uncharted either but the acting in that series is next level. Whoever they get to direct the cutscenes is great at his job.
He's giving him instructions but that doesn't mean that it sounds very natural, (I mean BB's silence is awkward enough as it is). And yes even though ACU used a form of The Queen's Latin with a lot of French Canadian actors.. The conversations in that game still sounded more natural.
That was brought up, they do look exactly like the horn, so probably something similar to this
Love Deterrence
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It seems fine, sure.
dukeoflegs
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That's what I find most interesting about Yongyea's analysis of the trailer, but he doesn't really touch on. He shows that between different trailers the same scene can have stuff added or removed. I wonder how much these trailers are just creations of Kojima's vs what is actually going to be in game. If he added stuff to these trailers to create narratives that aren't in game or symbolism that doesn't exist in game.
Crossing Eden
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Besides advertising MGS2 as if Snake was the main guy the entire time, has he done this for any other of the MGS games?
dukeoflegs
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He usually changes "minor" things when making trailers; character placement, weapons, camera angles, music. Usually to sell tension or action in a certain portion of the trailer. Other than MGS2 I don't know if he has tried selling a different narrative than what's in game, maybe MGS4? Someone with better knowledge of the series will probably chime in and give correct or better explanations.
Crossing Eden
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Well, i'd just chock that up to cutscenes still being a WIP since they can be common with game trailers.
Doctor_Thomas
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MGS4 had trailers that showed Snake in a ramshakle with a gun in his mouth looking much worse than any part of MGS4 that never appears in the game as well as another where, at the end, a young Snake that only appears in a Face Camo variant in a later portion of the game but was preset in the Middle East. A lot of misdirection.