Sir Abacus
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Kind of sucks they don't do chroma subsampling for 4k60 over HDMI 1.4. The text in game and the Windows desktop may be slightly fuzzy but you won't notice it in motion.
AMD Radeon Fury X Series | HBM, Small Form Factor And Water Cooling | June 16th
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Kind of sucks they don't do chroma subsampling for 4k60 over HDMI 1.4. The text in game and the Windows desktop may be slightly fuzzy but you won't notice it in motion.
Unknown Soldier
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Depends on how well these DP to DVI adapters work, the HardOCP people are all up arms because apparently they aren't very good or something. Or you could buy Nvidia, they haven't abandoned DVI yet.
The only 4K TVs which have DP are last year's Panasonics. Nobody else has DP on 4K TV, the industry standard for home theater is HDMI.
I game on a Sony 4K TV and AMD doesn't want me as a customer. That's fine, I got the 980 Ti anyways. Normally the underdog wants the customer more than the market leader but apparently AMD doesn't think like the typical underdog.
SolidSnakeUS
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Or I'd probably just go with a 1440p monitor and skip 4K on something so small? I'd never use this card on a TV.
Been watching that TR livestream too. Scott Wasson hinted that the average performance between 980 Ti and Fury might be closer than those AMD numbers indicate. He also said he expects both sides to have big wins. Since there's quite a difference in how AMD/NV approach getting the performance that they do, there's going to be more of a disparity depending on the game.
IMACOMPUTA
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As far as I know, you need a powered adapter for dual link DVI - hdmi/dp.
Not sure if both of those exist.
Not sure if both of those exist.
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What do you mean something so small? It's a 65 inch TV lol
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Unknown Soldier
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New Forbes article with some new info on the settings AMD was using in the benhmarks they released. Also beating the 980ti in firestrike ultra. http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2015/06/18/amd-radeon-fury-x-benchmarks-full-specs-new-fiji-graphics-card-beats-nvidias-980-ti/
Sir Abacus
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justgames7604
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Looking good
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Techpowerup.com is the site for solid reviews.
I know Mutes got a very good deal on his 980Ti but for comparison, how much does the comparable Nvidia cards cost there? 980 & 980Ti.
Didnt know that all the time I had a 780.This is absolutely false.
You will be completely hamstrung on the NVIDIA cards without a custom BIOS that voids the warranty. Greenlight prevents voltage control at the level that would be required to push the thermal limits.
I say this as someone who's main system has a 780 Ti Kingpin Classified under water with a custom Skyn3t BIOS.
What issues? The difference in this launch is AMD has not sent one card to the reviewers as all the cards launching are custom designs.
Ehh, I would drop PCPer with the amount of shady history they got.
Who knows? Maybe Nvidia may have already sent an email to the reviewers telling that the 980Ti is now $599 so as to spoil the reviews.
Those juicy margins must be tough to forego for Nvidia. Remember they could not milk the Titan X like they did for the OG Titan.
NormalFish
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Okay so I skimmed over this page and it sounds like there aren't 'real' benchmarks or reviews up just yet? Google turned up empty as well. Sorry if I missed them!
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Never said it was. My post has nothing to do with the Forbes article.
ShyGuy0504
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This card looks like it could be good but no DVI means I would have to buy adapter cables.
Unless AMD includes them.
Unless AMD includes them.
The cheapest I have seen is $999 AUD...
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=193_1766&products_id=32155
Ouch!
opticalmace
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390 review is up on PC Per, looks pretty competitive with the 970.
Unknown Soldier
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The Fury X is not available for sale until June 24th.
IMACOMPUTA
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Just remember, if you have a 1440p monitor with only DVI input, you need an adapter like this
($112.99)
ShyGuy0504
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Wow that is expensive.
My monitors are 1080p.. I don't know if that makes any difference though.
In that case you can use a passive adapter, which costs about $5.
This adapter is also fine for 2560x1600@60hz, and costs $15: https://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=104&cp_id=10428&cs_id=1042801&p_id=12783&seq=1&format=2
ShyGuy0504
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That's good to hear.
Nostremitus
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390(X) looks about right for AMD's usual rerelease of the previous gen's flagship becoming current gen's second tier.
The three Fury cards look decent compared to their Nvidia counterparts in the High End/Enthusiast segment as well...
I'm not sure what you were expecting.. Fury sits in the same seat the 290(X) once sat. The 390(X) are essentially this gen's 280(X). And its a solid leap over the 280(X) cards.
AMD changed their numbering but that doesn't mean that the second tier cards aren't reworked versions of last gen's flagship just like the 7970 became last gen's second tier.
It would be concerning if Nvidia were poised to launch a new lineup in the next 4-6 months, but they aren't. In fact, this may be it for a little while, barring a few other entries like the 960Ti. All that's left from here is price wars.
So AMD are in a decent situation if they can outperform the competition slightly at an equal or better price.
Coulomb_Barrier
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If you want a new card, get a 390 and overclock it. Although many would argue its cheaper to just buy an old 290 and do the same. However, the consensus on how much an improvement the 300 line is over the 200 is mixed. Some say good performance gains, some point at mostly driver optimizations and nothing more than an overclock.
If you can wait a couple months, you could save up for a Nano, which should set you up for a few years and will likely cost between $430-500.
First, 390 really just is the 290.
But more expensive and needs more power.
And 8gb seems pretty useless.
Best deal seems to be a 290x in that performance region.
Coulomb_Barrier
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At the moment I still think GTX 970 is the real deal for 1080p.
Maybe you can wait until we know the real specs of the Nano.
But nonetheless the GTX 970 is a great card for a great price.
Unknown Soldier
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For 1080p, the 970 is still the best value in videocards today.
The 980 is a terrible value and if you're thinking about one of those, wait a bit and see if Nvidia drops the price on it when the Fury and Fury Nano show up and beat the living hell out of it.
The thing about Star Citizen is that it apparently can use insane amounts of VRAM if you let it, so it's one of the few usage cases where someone might really benefit from the 380/390 and their 8 GB of VRAM. I don't know much about SC personally as I didn't back the KS and don't really care that much about it but maybe someone who played that can comment more.
ClayKavalier
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Fury X looks pretty small, would it be possible to build a PC with that in a HTPC case and have something small and not too loud but still powerful?
Kind of doubt it, I expect bad availability of both high end card for the next weeks/months.
Unlikely to happen... Nvidia is pretty happy where they are sitting at.
GTX980 might be a good candidate if Fury non-X turns out to be killer.
No HDMI 2.0? That's a ripoff.
Doesn't bother me because my 980TI has that, and I'm not running 4k, but seriously that's pretty crap.
I won't believe it's an overclocking monster until I actually see the results over at overclock.net, after the whole mess that was Intel's Devil's Canyon "You can get 5.0Ghz on air" rubbish.
Now it's all about how long it will take for Nvidia to release Pascal on 16nm with 2nd gen HBM. As long as they don't do an AMD and take a year and a half they'll be good.
Doesn't bother me because my 980TI has that, and I'm not running 4k, but seriously that's pretty crap.
I won't believe it's an overclocking monster until I actually see the results over at overclock.net, after the whole mess that was Intel's Devil's Canyon "You can get 5.0Ghz on air" rubbish.
Now it's all about how long it will take for Nvidia to release Pascal on 16nm with 2nd gen HBM. As long as they don't do an AMD and take a year and a half they'll be good.
Coulomb_Barrier
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I see Pascal mentioned a lot, but it is irrelevant at this point in time as HBM2 is not going to be ready until Q2 2016, so that is the earliest you can expect Pascal GPUs. That is a lifetime in the GPU market.
It's not irrelevant at all. The fact that it is so far away is going to have pretty massive implications for what happens now and over the next year in-between.
The price war could get really interesting. Especially the closer we get to the new generation of cards, as they'll be a huge leap forward, meaning both manufacturers might be able to justify getting *quite* low with the prices of these current cards.
Nostremitus
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Just like the 280X was just a refreshed 7970 with optimizations... Your point?
The 390 is the second tier GPU this gen just as the 280 was the second tier GPU last gen... It's a reworked version of last gen's flagship.
You read my comment before responding, right? The 390(X) is not the 290(X) successor... That's Fury/X/Nano. They shifted the numbering scheme in order to have a named flagship card.