gabrielt16
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Im having no problems playing the game with 30 fps cap. Everything looks pretty and what not. Hope current owners get something for the trouble though.
Warner Brothers suspends [new] purchases for PC version of Batman Arkham Knight
- Thread starter Mad Season
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Obliterator
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Yep, that did over $900,000 by itself during the Steam Sale so their big titles in the course of 2 weeks at heavily discounted prices did over 4 million dollars. That's JUST Summer Sale money, so they obviously are getting much much more at launch when games are full priced.
WB games aren't going anywhere from PC, but they need to get their shit together no doubt
Mass Effect
Member
Good. I wonder if the new refund policy had any effect on their decision.
Smushroomed
Banned
This is amazing
cripterion
Member
Would be funny if Andy's Nvidia settings guide dropped this week lol
Blood Diamonds
Banned
rip Iron Galaxy
stick to KI lol
stick to KI lol
I think the only time it's really happened has been dead MMOs or online games, stuff where the game literally will not function. And I use "literally" literally here... Arkham Knight functions, despite any statements otherwise. You can play it start to finish, it will just be extremely unpleasant.
So yeah, in terms of single player, AAA games that are brand new, I think this is a first. And a good precedent. There's a bugginess threshold for new games, but this is well beyond that threshold.
banefirelord
Banned
Honestly? Kudos to them for actually pulling the piece of shit, rather than let it flounder around in limbo until the umpteenth patch somewhat fixes everything (*cough* MCC, MKX, ACU *cough*). But also give them a slap across the face for releasing it in the first place.
(I'm so happy I decided to go with the PS4 version, wow)
vasametropolis
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Lol it has nothing to do with QA. If they have a QA dept at all they would have been kicking and screaming trying to hold it from release.
Lockjaw333
Member
So what do the sorry chumps who already bought it get as compensation?
Seems like WB assessed the situation and are now realizing its going to take a few months to fix this disaster. Many people have already given them money though. Hopefully they do something for those people.
What a colossal failure of management at some point. Someone had to be checking on the progress of the PC port...right?
Seems like WB assessed the situation and are now realizing its going to take a few months to fix this disaster. Many people have already given them money though. Hopefully they do something for those people.
What a colossal failure of management at some point. Someone had to be checking on the progress of the PC port...right?
ShaoranWright
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They did it because they thought they could get away with it, but because now costumers can ask for a refund for the game things are different now.
JigglesBunny
Banned
Yeah,
I'm predicting back on sale by Monday or Tuesday and free Season Passes all around.
Anything else would be paltry.
I'm predicting back on sale by Monday or Tuesday and free Season Passes all around.
Anything else would be paltry.
cripterion
Member
Lol at the people saying major props to them for doing this.
They fucking knew the state in which it launched and only reacted now cause of the huge gamer backlash.
They fucking knew the state in which it launched and only reacted now cause of the huge gamer backlash.
texhnolyze
Banned
I honestly think this is a good decision from WB.
They took the risk to regain the trust.
They took the risk to regain the trust.
I think this backlash combined with Steam refunds being proven in the wild will make ALL publishers take note. Either they'll get their shit together and stop treating PC gamers like redheaded stepchildren when it comes to their "AAA" console ports, or they won't bother with PC ports at all. The latter is very unlikely considering the revenue tail for PC games is near infinite compared to console games that have an established used games market.
Ideally this may snowball into a good thing.
Then I sure hope they have something up their sleeve for those who already own it.
Mad Season
Banned
You don't know this
Glitchesarecool
Member
Based on what people were reporting, this game is going to be gone for a while.
QA can flag problems but not actually do anything about them. It's up to devs to listen.
There's no way to know where the blame lies.
They listened at least. More so than EA/Maxis did with Simcity.
Or Dice did with Battlefield 4
Or Blizzard did with Diablo 3
I have a feeling he's not going to bother...
Best you can get is a refund.
I'm sure Valve and GMG are just auto approving those at the moment.
suddenlyissoon
Member
Now what to do for the rest of us poor idiots who bought it/got it with nvidia?
banefirelord
Banned
Which is more than literally any other company has done in the same situation over the last two years. Not to give them a pass, but it definitely shows some shred of integrity compared to the publishers that continued to take money for their broken pieces of garbage.
cripterion
Member
Really now? You think they weren't aware of the state of the game? You think they are doing this out of the goodness of their heart? If so they should have delayed the pc version or fucking cancelled it. No, instead they released a turd and pulled it out due to the immense number of bad critics and articles talking about the failed pc version.
And now people praising them...
Mohonky
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This has got to piss nvidia off as well though.
They pack in codes for their latest and greatest cards, the game comes out and its an absolute shit show. Nvidia uses promotions like this to showcase their graphics hardware (and all their custom gameworks stuff) so to have people buy new hardware and then find the game packed in to showcase their new toy runs like complete ass doesnt look good for nvidia.
I cant imagine they are happy. Anyone who doesnt follow gaming forums etc is likely thinking wtf my new card must be shit if this is how they are showing it off.
They pack in codes for their latest and greatest cards, the game comes out and its an absolute shit show. Nvidia uses promotions like this to showcase their graphics hardware (and all their custom gameworks stuff) so to have people buy new hardware and then find the game packed in to showcase their new toy runs like complete ass doesnt look good for nvidia.
I cant imagine they are happy. Anyone who doesnt follow gaming forums etc is likely thinking wtf my new card must be shit if this is how they are showing it off.
This may be a sign that steam refunds could be the biggest game changer PC gaming has ever seen. The idea that you can return something that isn't working, just imagine that.
Hopefully this could be the event that pushes devs to make competent PC ports for good. I'm buying all my games from steam going forward unless another distributor starts to offer refunds
Hopefully this could be the event that pushes devs to make competent PC ports for good. I'm buying all my games from steam going forward unless another distributor starts to offer refunds
Assuming GMG softens their stance a bit more on refunds given the current situation, I'm not sure what would stop me from taking advantage of that. Maybe Rocksteady coming out and saying they're going to take over the port responsibilities now. This is somewhat doubtful considering it can impact their precious 6 month timeline for DLC, not to mention certain folks at the studio after probably set for time off after shipping a game (which is fair enough). Short of that I'm not sure I have much faith in Iron Galaxy or another port house picking up the pieces of this deranged corpse of a game and turning it into something that's properly optimized. If they end of doing it successfully, then certainly kudos to them.
Personally, this is why I never mind when they delay PC versions. Taking Rockstar as an example, if they really wanted to, they could've rushed out the PC version of GTA V right alongside the current gen versions and said "eh, the framerate mostly sticks above 30 on our test GTX 970 build. I mean this is an open world game, consumers should understand performance will vary and it's not worth our time to make it run better." Instead after nearly 6 months of delays, GTA V is probably one of the best optimized open world games I've every played, and even a modest rig can get a nice looking game that runs well to boot. It's a PC version done absolutely right, and significant delays take nothing away from it IMO.
Personally, this is why I never mind when they delay PC versions. Taking Rockstar as an example, if they really wanted to, they could've rushed out the PC version of GTA V right alongside the current gen versions and said "eh, the framerate mostly sticks above 30 on our test GTX 970 build. I mean this is an open world game, consumers should understand performance will vary and it's not worth our time to make it run better." Instead after nearly 6 months of delays, GTA V is probably one of the best optimized open world games I've every played, and even a modest rig can get a nice looking game that runs well to boot. It's a PC version done absolutely right, and significant delays take nothing away from it IMO.
couple of things:
previously, pre-order revenue was close to a cast iron lock.with every stinker you'd get a few naggy ninnies who'd lumber on down to gamestop and demand a refund or kick up a fuss through official channels, but most would either just trade in a badly made game or have it linger in their collection like a bad smell.
steam refunds changes the dynamic here and warner have to react to it. for pre-order revenue to suddenly become an unknown quantity due to the likelihood of refunds is a terrifying thing for a publisher and they have to act decisively to confront it.
secondly:
i don't want a crack team of surgeons to try and piece this mess back together within the launch window. it's clearly rotten to its core and a mea culpa of this magnitude calls for an equally extreme solution: redo the port in-house (or atleast overseen by them) from the ground up. the only thing that can possibly bring a happy ending is if the lasting narrative is elevated from one of mitigated failure to one of glorious redemption.
previously, pre-order revenue was close to a cast iron lock.with every stinker you'd get a few naggy ninnies who'd lumber on down to gamestop and demand a refund or kick up a fuss through official channels, but most would either just trade in a badly made game or have it linger in their collection like a bad smell.
steam refunds changes the dynamic here and warner have to react to it. for pre-order revenue to suddenly become an unknown quantity due to the likelihood of refunds is a terrifying thing for a publisher and they have to act decisively to confront it.
secondly:
i don't want a crack team of surgeons to try and piece this mess back together within the launch window. it's clearly rotten to its core and a mea culpa of this magnitude calls for an equally extreme solution: redo the port in-house (or atleast overseen by them) from the ground up. the only thing that can possibly bring a happy ending is if the lasting narrative is elevated from one of mitigated failure to one of glorious redemption.
That's kinda where I'm at. I bought the card with the Witcher/Batman promo knowing I'd want both. Witcher is great, but Batman....
Obliterator
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Mass Effect
Member
A refund (if you wish).
Crimsonclaw111
Member
Like with GMG, you guys need to kick up dust to make sure they hear you.
And absolutely not, if refunds didn't exist Warner Bros would be laughing with your dollar bills as tissue.
No way. The game has changed.
AgentOtaku
Member
whooooa!
RibbedHero
Member
There's nothing you can do, as those were free games. No compensation for free extras. Best you can do is hope existing owners get some bonuses and wait for fixes to turn up.
I'm not sure if you're joking here, but that's insane.
Kacho
Member
I would say not. We've never seen this from a publisher before, so I can only assume that there were a massive amount of refund requests submitted and someone at valve reached out to WB to get this worked out.
Everyone's talking about how steam refunds are great (and it's true- they,re the only reason WB is doing this)
I also see posts saying that '' maybe now other developers won,t release shitty PC ports''.
Couldn't they just not release their game on steam instead? No refunds problems in that case..
I also see posts saying that '' maybe now other developers won,t release shitty PC ports''.
Couldn't they just not release their game on steam instead? No refunds problems in that case..
They just added the refund functionality 3 weeks ago, after years of demand.
cripterion
Member
Are people getting their refunds on season passes too?
Nope.
Without Steam refunds, they basically have a captive audience.
Now, they need to win people back they've already lost.
They could, but Steam is a massive storefront so they'd be losing out on a significant chunk of the PC audience.
Secondly, by Steam having a refund procedure, it pressures other digital outlets into doing the same (GOG has had it for a while, Origin has for its EA games) like I suspect it did with GMG recently, who don't usually issue refunds but are doing so for AK.