FantasticMrFoxdie
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I'm getting chills.
FUCK YEAH! #LOVEWINS
FUCK YEAH! #LOVEWINS
SCOTUS strikes down gay marriage bans, legalizing marriage equality nationwide
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10 years ago, I thought I'd never see this day in my lifetime. Wow.
This is about the narrative they're trying to create for the upcoming elections.
Your religious freedom is under attack, dontchaknow! Fight with your vote!
This is about the narrative they're trying to create for the upcoming elections.
Your religious freedom is under attack, dontchaknow! Fight with your vote!
benjipwns
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The binding legal status of an interpretation is pretty irrelevant to a discussion over whether one agrees or disagrees with the opinion.
If one wants to dismiss disagreement with a Supreme Court ruling by saying "the court ruled [X]" that's not much of an argument against the persons disagreement because...the person disagrees with the Court.
haha oh man
But can he survive the primaries? When the base, especially the base that votes in the primaries, is so anti-gay and there are a number of candidates who are anti-supreme court and who support constitutional amendment banning gay marriage how can he maintain his lead?
But you yourself said that the Court can be wrong. At the moment of the ruling they can't be. Their word is our constitution.
Ziltoidia 9
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Only thing they can do is try to get government out of marriage completely. But they will never do it because it would make them drop tax credits.
Its ironic. Marriage is more of a government thing here than a religious thing, by law. So ultimately they created their own slippery slope by making marriage have government benefits/recognized.
Hell, just flip over to Fox news.
Tom Nook
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Snowman Prophet of Doom
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The existence of a president in the 200+ year history of the United States who was appointed a Supreme Court justice post-presidency has no bearing, whatsoever, on whether Barack Obama, in the 2010s+, could or should be appointed to the Supreme Court. It's a notion that, if you're even passingly familiar with the nature of the office in the modern political landscape, is very obviously and unambiguously silly and dumb, for the reasons Stump has outlined in the last few pages of this thread.
Edit: It's like saying David Patraeus could be president because Washington and Taft were both former military generals. The office doesn't work like that, anymore.
Yeah the icing on the cake in all this is that the Republican party may be absolutely doomed for 2016 now. The candidates will have to swing farther right than ever to impress a pissed off Republican base. Meanwhile middle-of-the-road types they need in the general are moving on without them.
Don has a girlfriend named Carmen in the newest game and frequently shouts her name during his moves, dedicates matches to her and stuff.
Then again, the way he agressively anounces at every chance that he has a girlfriend might be a little suspicious...
Don't forget the Obamacare ruling, lol.
TheOohChild
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I texted him earlier to let him know I am happy for him and love him. We're going to hang out tonight
Keep fucking that chicken.
This will be an interesting test.
Republicans claim to be ardent supporters of the constitution. Literally one of its biggest tenets is the separation of powers, which includes the judiciary branch. It is up to them to interpret said constitution. And that means when you agree with their decisions or not.
That puts them in an interesting position. Support this sort of argument, and you are openly admitting your support of the constitution is completely bullshit. You only cite it when it works in your favor. There's no way to get around it ... it's about as obvious as can be.
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Go USA! Crazy that one day I'll tell my grandchildren that back when I was born, people were not free to marry whomever they wanted by law. They'll probably look at us like Apartheid separatists or something.
Agent_Carnage
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There some massive salt from the people I have friended on Facebook.
benjipwns
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Add "in their/my/your opinion" or whatever you need to be sure that someone stating an opinion isn't trying to state something as a fact.
Still no tweets from Sarah Palin.
She'd have to read the news to know it happened.
So does this mean a gay couple could get married tomorrow, today, RIGHT NOW if they wanted to? What other hurdles might they still face? I'm assuming some individual churches might still refuse to marry a gay couple?
Regardless, this is a huge step forward and I am extremely happy.
I'm not sure how that works. I know some companies got sued for refusing service based on religious beliefs.
That would be within their religious rights correct?
Well, as soon as it's published in a magazine she'll know. Any magazine of course, she reads all of them.
Bush can survive the primaries because the pool of candidates is so dilute and so weak... for him to lose, someone better would have to usurp him. Among this group, I just can't see it.
Stumpokapow
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Well, it depends on the context. If the argument is normative public policy, then one can disagree with the court and ignore the constitution. If the argument is normative legal theory, then one can disagree with the court but not ignore the constitution. If the argument is, like, empirical, about how the world will unfold in the wake of the ruling, then one cannot disagree with the court (well, actually, they don't have an army so maybe one can). I can't even follow this argument enough to know how it started. What's the substance of the disagreement, and to what end is it being expressed?
Where can I get on this slope where we become Canada?
BobTheFork
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This is going to be the blood in the tank that makes these GOP 'hopefuls' just devour each other.
The numbers supporting gay marriage are clear. They can't win the primary if they support this but they likely can't win the election if they don't support it.
It's going to be amazing
The numbers supporting gay marriage are clear. They can't win the primary if they support this but they likely can't win the election if they don't support it.
It's going to be amazing
CharminUltra
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Meltdowns. Meltdowns as far as the eye can see.
As Jon Stewart pointed out, it seems he doesn't know how the slippery slope argument works. It is supposed to end with something bad.
So does this mean a gay couple could get married tomorrow, today, RIGHT NOW if they wanted to? What other hurdles might they still face? I'm assuming some individual churches might still refuse to marry a gay couple?
Regardless, this is a huge step forward and I am extremely happy.
Every church can refuse to marry a gay couple. The decision today is regarding state recognition of marriage. The first amendment allows churches to do whatever they want.
Wait till she gets to the part about her daughter being pregnant again.
Dunedain_Ranger
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Any word from westboro baptist ?
Disco Kid deserves better than that!
I wonder if any state governors are going to try to pull an Andrew Jackson and run with the whole... It's a great decision... Now let's see you enforce it bullshit.
If this isn't a divine signal I don't know what it is.Double rainbow currently over the White House.
EdibleKnife
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They're busy making the 10,000 picket signs they need for their response
............ I hate the gov. Of my state.
BobTheFork
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What someone really need to pry him on is what he would have thought if the court agreed with him personally. The idea that the necessity of the supreme court is tied entirely to whether or not you personally agree with a single decision they've made is just stupid as hell.
Veritigo_X
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Noooo, not Canada! If I knew what was at stake I would've never supported this.
benjipwns
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They're disagreeing with the Supreme Court's ruling and articulating their alternative interpretation. The Supreme Court ruling doesn't invalidate their disagreement with that ruling because...they disagree with it. That's the entire point.
Ignatz Mouse
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Damn, my twitter feed is liberal.
No one complaining about this and tons of celebrating. And one cranky guy going on about the flag which seems to be more a protest of censorship than anything else.
No one complaining about this and tons of celebrating. And one cranky guy going on about the flag which seems to be more a protest of censorship than anything else.
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