Feels like the Mormons are fairly pragmatic. They did what they could to prevent it early on, but they seem to have backed off that position once it started to become an inevitability.
SCOTUS strikes down gay marriage bans, legalizing marriage equality nationwide
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Feels like the Mormons are fairly pragmatic. They did what they could to prevent it early on, but they seem to have backed off that position once it started to become an inevitability.
Stumpokapow
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I agree that diversity in the background of those on the court would be valuable; diversity in who they are, what they did before they went to law school, the types of law they practiced. I do not believe that the service of court diversity requires diluting the standard that those we appoint to the court, regardless of political perspective, be strong and innovative legal minds who have demonstrated this through the highest levels of service to law as a profession. I would rather progressive judges, but given that there is a progressive judge, I would rather a legal scholar or appellate court judge than Barney Frank. Given that there is going to be a conservative judge, I would rather Alex Kosinski to Rick Santorum.
The idea that the judiciary should be democratized (and thus politicized more than it already is, subject to explicitly partisan rather than simply ideological agendas on all cases) and stacked with people who have public appeal and support devalues rule of law.
I don't think Obama would make a notable judge, I suspect if the ABA was honest they would evaluate him as "Qualified" rather than "Well Qualified". I think there are enough brilliant legal minds in America to pick the brilliant ones. I don't think it's either a good use of his talents after he leaves the Presidency or a good use of the slot on the court. If the standard for a Supreme Court justice is "someone who is young [and thus will block up the slot for as long as possible] and agrees with me on the issues", then skip Obama and nominate a random environmental law 1L from a Top 25 law school.
We gotta make more fries to go with all the salt
TatteredHat
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Man, fuck Birdo. Actual people can get married now regardless of what they identify as and who they fall in love with.
partyphone
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we still have so far to go for equality. : (
one of my fears is that a lot of the enthusiasm and fundraising will dry up after this. so many LGBT orgs have been laser focused on marriage to the exclusion of other important issues.
in a lot of states you can still be fired for being gay. gay adoption is still legally murky. trans people can't legally correct their birth certificates.
and I don't think anyone is saying anything about poly marriages. so those people are left feeling cold.
Plus Yoshi lays eggs so she has to be female.
They chose a couple that consisted of a trans woman and a man in order to celebrate SSM.
I'm not trying to shit on the day.
If only.
Oh I agree. Just providing the video for context.
afternoon delight
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Fuck yes for tangible progress! To all the haters, I wanna take you to a GAY BAR GAY BAR GAAAY BAR
American Eskimo
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They dont tell people in advance the day of the release.
We just knew it was in June. Every Monday and Thursday people loaded up SCOTUSblog to see the 10am announcements.
They created a special session today, which made it more likely because 6/26 has a history as a day for gay rights ruling. However, a thread saying "ruling coming today!" could have been wrong and disappointing.
There are 3 more court cases to be decided, to be released Monday
Yoshi is male though?
Veritigo_X
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lol, people are actually thinking this is a sign of the end of days. This is turning out better than I imagined. I don't think conservative bigots can take having their flag taken down and gay marriage legalized in the same week. It's literally too much for them.
Not being from the U.S.I am not overly familiar with American law (particularly the actual operation of the Constitution) so I would appreciate it if someone could explain how the dissent finds this a blow to democracy. Democracy as in force in most nations is not about the tyranny of the majority over the minority. Doesn't the Constitution protect minority groups from an unequal operation of the law?
benjipwns
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No, I'm saying the Supreme Court can be wrong and it's valid for people to criticize them as such.
Yea I'm getting into it with one of my dad's friends on facebook now. He's pulling the 10th amendment card which I showed the 14th. His argument is the 14th came after....which I say it had to because the bill of rights clearly isn't perfect. His response was "so says you". Good lord.
At that point I said our country proved that the bill of rights isn't perfect because it took the 14th amendment to get equal rights for blacks. I mean you would think that's common sense. I don't expect a response after that. If he does it'll just label him a racist.
At that point I said our country proved that the bill of rights isn't perfect because it took the 14th amendment to get equal rights for blacks. I mean you would think that's common sense. I don't expect a response after that. If he does it'll just label him a racist.
Gordon Shumway
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CrimzonSamurai
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I never understand how so many GAFfers have socially conservative facebook friends.
Mine whittled themselves down, but maybe that's because I'm just so darned confrontational all the time
Mine whittled themselves down, but maybe that's because I'm just so darned confrontational all the time
Yoshi has been identified as a guy many times in the Mario series.
How the fuck did this devolve into a Mario canon discussion?
ElectricBlanketFire
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What are you even arguing right now?
Doesn't yoshi lay eggs and birth more yoshis?
and they didnt know. and youre giving them shit for it. for something that was done with only with the best of intentions.
What a day! It's like this all over the country.
Veritigo_X
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And why the fuck is there a Yoshi gender discussion going on in here? Keep that shit on the gaming side.
Apparently because gay nintendo cartoons and IGN not knowing Mario lore.
NoblesseOblige
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You don't want to open that can of worms. I had a thread locked earlier this week because it degraded to pages of discussing Yoshi's gender.
ElectricBlanketFire
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I never understand how so many GAFfers have socially conservative facebook friends.
Mine whittled themselves down, but maybe that's because I'm just so darned confrontational all the time
I'm not going to block people I care about if they happen to be wrong.
People can change.
Cool! Remember to tell him to his face over and over again you support him.
Coriolanus
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Yoshi is most likely a hermaphrodite.
Stumpokapow
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... because you posted the IGN tweet to yell at them for what you perceive to be transphobia (but what is more likely a dumb oversight on their part) based on your understanding of Mario canon.
GameGuru59
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Politicians gonna politician. That was the safe position at the time.
American Eskimo
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Heres the article btw
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/04/clones-on-the-court/386252/
I absolutely dont think Obama should be nominated, but we should have a larger pool to look at
Heres another similar one:
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/120173/2014-supreme-court-ivy-league-clan-disconnected-reality
Yoshi is a freak of nature. He eats things and then births them. Then he murders them in their fetal state by using them as a weapon. He's beyond being labelled one sex or the other.
Birdo's cool, though. She deserves better.
If they didn't know they would have posted a picture with one of the other characters that actually identify as men in the Mario series. Instead they chose the one that has been portrayed as a woman for years.
I wasn't the first person to post the tweet. I was referring to the Yoshi thing though, not the Birdo thing.
CrimzonSamurai
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He's not arguing anything, he just said that the court has a history of reversing its own precedent, as they have done now. His examples were Dred Scott and Plessy v. Ferguson, someone inferred something from that he didn't mean and he's trying to ascertain what that was because the inferer left if vague.
PsychoSoldier
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I never understand how so many GAFfers have socially conservative facebook friends.
Mine whittled themselves down, but maybe that's because I'm just so darned confrontational all the time
For me it's family and people from an earlier part of my life.
I just hide them from my feed.
Ganzlinger
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Wow. Megaton indeed!
Congrats, America!
Congrats, America!
benjipwns
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That despite the claim that one can't disagree with a Supreme Court ruling, one in fact can. And when someone does it's not valid to dismiss their interpretation with "the Supreme Court says otherwise" when the persons entire deal is that they disagree with the Supreme Court's interpretation.
So it's been flavored for American palates?
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