"Wolverine O face" comic artist steals 3 other artist's tables at Montreal Comic-Con

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DrEvil

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Now someone add sad Keanu to the other chair.

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ReiGun

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The only time Liefeld has ever come across as an ass was that time he started beefing with Scott Synder. Other than that, he seems like a nice enough dude.
 

Capella

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Why wouldn't the organizers have stopped this? Move his stuff or get out. Those aren't his tables to take.

Supposedly he may have some sort of agreement with the convention that says he gets 4 tables and they had only given him one. No idea if that's actually true, just something that was mentioned here a couple of times so that may be why they didn't force him to move.

Even if that's true, why not ask the convention organizers about the issue instead of just taking tables that already had names on them?
 
Wait - why is everyone, including the 3 artists and the organizers, so passive aggressive?

They didn't do anything about it, just complained a little and asked him to please don't do that again next time?

Well, this is the Con's official stance, which sounds a bit soft:
Yesterday, there was an unfortunate situation where certain creators were displaced from one area in Artist Alley to another area in the same alley without their knowledge. We at Montreal Comiccon offer a sincere apology to those affected. We have spoken to the creators and have reassured them that they will be compensated for the inconvenience.
In this situation, Montreal Comiccon assumes a measure of responsibility and has taken certain actions to ensure that this type of situation will not be repeated at any of the events we manage. The foundation of comic book conventions is built - and continues to be built - upon the admiration and respect of comic book creators. We are forever appreciative for what they continue to bring to a vibrant industry. Our policy has always been to make sure that all artists and creators are treated with respect and consideration.

My best guess is that they didn't want to alienate a big name or deprive some attendees from the guy they'd come to see but yeah, this is still puzzling.

The only time Liefeld has ever come across as an ass was that time he started beefing with Scott Synder. Other than that, he seems like a nice enough dude.
Wasn't he a bit of an ass in business dealings when Image fell apart? I might be thinking of McFarlane though, that drama was a shitfest.

Not that this would justify going to see him to insult him anyway. I strongly dislike his work, I'll make fun of that but I'd never go out of my way to directly insult him.
 
I stood in line to meet Rob at Wizard World Chicago in 2004. Maybe 2003. There was like 5 people in front of me and three of them were there to tell Rob he ruined comics. He just smiled and said thanks. I was so fucking embarrassed. I loved his art when I was a kid, can't say I like it now, but he was a kid himself living the dream. I've met him a few times and hes always been super nice.

Hahaha wtf? I mean, I have heard of the comic book guy stereotype but have never witnessed it in action. That shit must be real cringy to be around.


So the dude that hijack the other tables say he was owed them or something?
 

That Ted Dibiase guy came to my high school once, and got removed from the stage. For some reason, they thought it'd be good to have an idiot from the WWE do public speaking, and he kept saying that gay people were responsible for all of the bad things in this world.
 

Raging Spaniard

If they are Dutch, upright and breathing they are more racist than your favorite player
I go to cons fairly often (not to sell)and Arthur Suydam is a name that tends to come up in "this guy was being a dick" stories.

Im pretty pissed for a bunch of reasons. One, that this gets traction only when it happens to successful artists. Two, that it happened to Dan Parent, who was my teacher for a whole year at the Kubert School (nicest guy on the planet) and three, that it didnt happen to me so that I could shove that assholes table right in its face.
 
This is the dude who (allegedly) went into a rage blackout during a Man of Steel screening, then said he couldn't remember. A fucking fugue state, man.

Oh, I know. And it wasn't so much that he couldn't remember, it's that he didn't realize until after he was doing it that the guy in the theater standing and screaming at the screen...


(music rises)


...WAS HIM!

(DUN DUN DUN)

He gets a pass for catching the vapors, though, because Birthright is the best origin story Superman ever had.

(plus, he overall liked the movie outside of Zod dying, and he REALLY liked how Jonathan died)
 

JDSN

Banned
They allowed him to do this, so no one involved should be saying shit about it, embarrasing for all people involved.
 
Oh, I know. And it wasn't so much that he couldn't remember, it's that he didn't realize until after he was doing it that the guy in the theater standing and screaming at the screen...


(music rises)


...WAS HIM!

(DUN DUN DUN)

He gets a pass for catching the vapors, though, because Birthright is the best origin story Superman ever had.

Shit, man. He went full depersonalization?
 

styl3s

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Not really. Just kind of a jerk thing to do.

Mark Waid went all-in on Twitter about this:

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That's it i am order this guys daredevil run off IST right now.
this is just another excuse to pull the trigger




please don't shame me for having read his DD run.
 
This is the dude who (allegedly) went into a rage blackout during a Man of Steel screening, then said he couldn't remember. A fucking fugue state, man.
I love Waid but I'm laughing right now. Thanks for the anecdote.

Edit: oh yeah, he's hulking out alright;
@MarkWaid: Fuck Arthur Suydam and his rep. They fake-apologized to two big-name pros but pointedly IGNORED a lesser-name pro. https://t.co/JhYp233QyK
 
Shit, man. He went full depersonalization?

Here's the actual quote from the review on his site:

"Superman wins by killing Zod. By snapping his neck. And as this moment was building, as Zod was out of control and Superman was (for the first time since the fishing boat 90 minutes ago) struggling to actually save innocent victims instead of casually catching them in mid-plummet, some crazy guy in front of us was muttering “Don’t do it…don’t do it…DON’T DO IT…” and then Superman snapped Zod’s neck and that guy stood up and said in a very loud voice, “THAT’S IT, YOU LOST ME, I’M OUT,” and his girlfriend had to literally pull him back into his seat and keep him from walking out and that crazy guy was me. That crazy guy was me, and I barely even remember doing that, I had to be told afterward that I’d done that, that’s how caught up in betrayal I felt. "
 

Yaboosh

Super Sleuth
There are so many ways to solve this problem other than trying to make an internet stink about it. So many.
 

Jakten

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They allowed him to do this, so no one involved should be saying shit about it, embarrasing for all people involved.

I wouldn't say they allowed it to happen. They just didn't want to be assholes about it. They spoke to the organizers about it and Francis spoke to Arthur about it directly.

I guess Arthur sent his agent over to speak to Dan and Francis about it but they completely ignored Rachel.
 

TAJ

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
They just didn't want to be assholes about it.

If ever there's a time for being assholes, then surely this is it.
 

jediyoshi

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They allowed him to do this, so no one involved should be saying shit about it, embarrasing for all people involved.

'They', 'all people involved'. To clarify, you're saying it's embarrassing the affected people didn't simply forcefully, take the space back?
 

Savitar

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Waid is a very passionate person.

On this issue I agree with him, the Superman thing he was being absolutely silly though.
 

TAJ

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
'They', 'all people involved'. To clarify, you're saying it's embarrassing the affected people didn't simply forcefully, take the space back?

If he did this at a swap meet he'd get stabbed.
 
It's a world where just about everyone is afraid of confrontation, so Twitter is how you go about it.

The comics industry is also not very well known for its members being all that upfront with each other.

The industry is really incestuous, so people get worried that making a stink will lead to that burnt bridge preventing them from a job they need later on, because everyone knows everyone else and jobs aren't necessarily assigned based on merit. So basically, a lot of writers and artists spend large amounts of time just eating shit.
 

Savitar

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Personally I think it would be just deserts if a few people dressed up as zombie types and then went and pelted the guy and his stuff with rotten fruits/vegetables and maybe a bucket of good ol red stuff before scattering to the winds.

Might send a message.

And yes it can be considered excessive.

It might also be damn effective against a well known prick.
 
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