Tom Brady's Suspension Appeal News

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Open up my eyes? It's hilarious to me how many of you consider the wells report anything but trash. It's objectively bad. The science and methodology it contains are complete nonsense and this whole thing serves, partially, as an indictment of American science education.

Almost everyone so fervently pleading with some of us to "open our eyes" made up their mind about guilt the instant an accusation was made. The quality of the evidence and reason are irrelevant because they just know.


The science of the wells report doesnt even matter. Theres enough evidence otherwise. Where theres smoke theres fire.
 
This has nothing to do with corporations v union. They're going to just be arguing about language of the CBA and what it really means. The only people who win are really the lawyers writing the next CBA who are going to be paid even more.

I disagree. The CBA is an agreement between a union and non-union entity. It is no different from the agreement between a grocery store union and the overriding parent corporation which lays out benefits/misconduct and termination details.
 
Open up my eyes? It's hilarious to me how many of you consider the wells report anything but trash. It's objectively bad. The science and methodology it contains are complete nonsense and this whole thing serves, partially, as an indictment of American science education.

OMG MY SIDES

Guys, its not that tom brady deflated the footballs, or lying, or anything even related to football. the real issue is science education in america.

The straws people are grasping at....
 
The science of the wells report doesnt even matter. Theres enough evidence otherwise. Where theres smoke theres fire.

Nonsense. The science is fundamental to this. The smoke completely goes away if the footballs are not tampered with, and there is no evidence they were.

OMG MY SIDES

Guys, its not that tom brady deflated the footballs, the real issue is science education in america.

The straws people are grasping at....

You didn't understand anything I just wrote.
 
what percentage of the average NFL fanbase now considers tom brady a cheating piece of shit for life and will never root for him or one of his teams again, i wonder?
 
what percentage of the average NFL fanbase now considers tom brady a cheating piece of shit for life and will never root for him or one of his teams again, i wonder?


67.89%

Haters are going to hate......but Likers are going to like.

*Insert comment that people only hate the patriots because they are jelly.*
 
If the NFL has a smoking gun or someone from the phone company turns one up or one of the people Brady texted with releases something to some press outfit for hundreds of thousands of dollars then Brady's reputation and future endorsement revenue is totally destroyed IMO.
 
If the NFL has a smoking gun or someone from the phone company turns one up or one of the people Brady texted with releases something to some press outfit for hundreds of thousands of dollars then Brady's reputation and future endorsement revenue is totally destroyed IMO.

Nah, he can always endorse goodyear or firestone.
 
Nonsense. The science is fundamental to this. The smoke completely goes away if the footballs are not tampered with, and there is no evidence they were.



You didn't understand anything I just wrote.


the footballs were tampered with dude. Just be honest with yourself you know hes guilty.
 
This Kraft speech is great! Part of me just want this 4 games to be served and just move on but all this other stuff is hilarious and better than listening to a summer of Red Sox talk.
 
Tom Brady's Facebook post was good. Makes Goodell seem like a spiteful douche.

Well, he is.

I love how everyone is on him about destroying the phone. In reality, he upgraded and checked multiple times if he needed to keep the broken phone before tossing it. AND THEN, after the fact and when they start whining about needing his phone, he goes to the lengths of contacting the phone company, etc, in order to assist.

Puhlease, the NFL is gonna get seriously burnt on this.
 
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ahh those were the good old days.
 
Well, he is.

I love how everyone is on him about destroying the phone. In reality, he upgraded and checked multiple times if he needed to keep the broken phone before tossing it. AND THEN, after the fact and when they start whining about needing his phone, he goes to the lengths of contacting the phone company, etc, in order to assist.

Puhlease, the NFL is gonna get seriously burnt on this.

call me crazy but looking at your avatar i think you had your mind made up before hearing any evidence.

"Also notable:
The NFL offered to leave the appeal open if Brady wanted to have McNally and Jaztremski testify on his behalf.
Brady declined that offer."

and the fact that he could of turned over hand selected with his lawyer transcipts of his texts BEFORE his cell phone? cmon man. like....like cmon.

What do you say now, Patriot fans? Still think the NFL is out
to get the Patriots? Still think Tom Brady is clean? Still think this is a witch hunt?
Of course you do. And that is why at a time when you should be embarrassed, you are probably emboldened. Please. Give up. It’s time for local loyalists to parachute down from Planet Patriot and get in touch with reality. Stop twisting yourselves into
knots to justify the petty crimes and coverups of the Patriots and theirquarterback.

-the boston globe
 
How did Tom break that Galaxy? lol

I love how he says he only replaced his phone AFTER he told the league he wouldn't be giving it to them, as if that matters.
 
I love how everyone is on him about destroying the phone. In reality, he upgraded and checked multiple times if he needed to keep the broken phone before tossing it. AND THEN, after the fact and when they start whining about needing his phone, he goes to the lengths of contacting the phone company, etc, in order to assist.

I've done a 180 on this story and feel the whole thing is ridiculous and that Brady shouldn't have been suspended, but you really have to be gullible to believe this.
 
what I don't get is why they need Brady's phone if they already have the texts with everyone else and the contact information of Brady's contacts.

like, who else would Brady have talked to that they didn't already have?
 
How did Tom break that Galaxy? lol

I love how he says he only replaced his phone AFTER he told the league he wouldn't be giving it to them, as if that matters.

It does matter because Roger is making a big deal over something that is essentially a null point and a deflection from his incredibly lacking case. Fuck handing over my phone, I wouldn't do that shit either and I doubt you would.

People don't get this, Roger is an incompetent shit. Brady and the Pats suck too, but watching Roger fail is infinitely more enjoyable.
 
Nonsense. The science is fundamental to this. The smoke completely goes away if the footballs are not tampered with, and there is no evidence they were.



You didn't understand anything I just wrote.

There isn't enough evidence to suspend Brady for four games, but come on, everybody knows they cheated.
 
The NFL is making a big deal about the phone to deflect from the fact that they had zero evidence implicating Brady. There was nothing linking him in the equipment guys texts. NFL doing pretty much what Republicans did with Benghazi. They didn't find their smoking gun, so they wanted to go fishing.

And to all the people saying "They could have handed over the selected text messages". What would have happened if they did that? Does anyone honesty think the NFL would not be saying "Well, Tom and his Lawyer didn't give us everything, only selected texts". The NFL would have thrown a fit over anything but the full and total records, and Tom had every right to tell them to piss off.
 
Jim Mora: “Every NFL QB I’ve ever been around manipulated the football in some way.”


The crime here is being dumb enough to get caught. For that he deserves 4 games.
 
Jim Mora: “Every NFL QB I’ve ever been around manipulated the football in some way.”

The crime here is being dumb enough to get caught. For that he deserves 4 games.
Bullshit.

He got "caught" because everyone in the league hates the Patriots and Irsay was mad he wasn't going to the Superbowl with his shitty team. He gained no competitive advantage from deflating balls. 4 games is absurd

Which one is Myra?
Classy
 
I didn't think this could any more interesting and it has.

I also disagree with yesterdays narrative surrounding my cellphone. I replaced my broken Samsung phone with a new iPhone 6 AFTER my attorneys made it clear to the NFL that my actual phone device would not be subjected to investigation under ANY circumstances.

Goodell claimed that Brady destroyed his phone, though Brady states otherwise that he replaced his broken phone after informing the NFL he would not hand it over. Goodell's statement is clearly trying to implicate Brady intentionally destoryed his phone in order to hide evidence.

The other interesting information to come out is that Brady's team handed over a list of all individuals and dates that Brady had text communication with and not the content of those texts. This leaves the onus to the NFL and it's investigation team to narrow down the list of text messages they are interested in and ask those individuals for the content. One would assume those individuals would be Patriots employees or players, the former of which the NFL will be able to request the cell phones of. I don't think the NFL should have access to any text message Brady sent, especially to those outside of the Patriot organisation. Brady providing meta-data is in my opinion a fair comprise.
 
Jim Mora: “Every NFL QB I’ve ever been around manipulated the football in some way.”

That's the funniest thing about this. This is a minor technical regulation that no one in the NFL gave a shit about. No records were kept of ball PSI, and some officials even admitted to just squeezing the balls to see if they were OK. The NFL's own investigation got different PSI numbers when they measured the Patriots balls.

But hey, Goodell wants to make a bigger deal about a technical violation that was probably done unintentionally than players beating the shit out of their wives. Well, make a big deal about the Patriots committing a technical violation. Vikings tamper with the balls and no one cares.
 
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You're losing all your friends, Goodell.

As a Saints fan, I love that this guy's entire run as a commissioner has been a shit show of epic proportions. Please, oh please let that suspension get overturned. Not for Tom or the Pats, but only so it's one more blemish on Goodell's record.
 
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