What's odd about this is that the penalty is the same as if you beat your wife unconscious. What a lovely set of standards the NFL has. But seeing how shitty they treat their many retired players who have debilitating health problems, I don't expect much from the NFL.
Tom Brady's Suspension Appeal News
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What's odd about this is that the penalty is the same as if you beat your wife unconscious. What a lovely set of standards the NFL has. But seeing how shitty they treat their many retired players who have debilitating health problems, I don't expect much from the NFL.
PanicFreak
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I would say "with his bare hands" but... yeah...
Kraft's statement on the matter:
https://soundcloud.com/bostonherald/robert-kraft-addresses-the-media-on-tom-brady-suspension
I am listening to it and an interesting comment by Kraft is that the Patriots handed over cellphones of every non-nflpa employee including head coach belichick.
I am honestly curious what the NFL wanted with Brady's phone - did they want to see his communication with other NFL players, his family?
https://soundcloud.com/bostonherald/robert-kraft-addresses-the-media-on-tom-brady-suspension
I am listening to it and an interesting comment by Kraft is that the Patriots handed over cellphones of every non-nflpa employee including head coach belichick.
I am honestly curious what the NFL wanted with Brady's phone - did they want to see his communication with other NFL players, his family?
No, there is no evidence the balls were tampered with after being checked by the referee. We don't know what the pressure was for any ball at any point to any reasonable degree of accuracy. The NFL was unwilling to admit this and everything after has flowed from that. They never cared about these readings before and so no time was taken to record or even measure them accurately.
DrForester
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Just a fishing expedition. They had no strong evidence of a coverup, but they really, really wanted to find one.
I'm just saying that the man that doesn't have the decency to wait until his wife is even lowered into the ground before parading around his mistress perhaps shouldn't be trusted in what he says to defend the integrity of his football team. I think it is fair that the NFL uses this as evidence against him and in determining the severity of the Patriots' punishment.
bone_and_sinew
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Still weak, strip them of the Super Bowl and you got a stew going.
dave is ok
aztek is ok
You realize Myrna Kraft died in 2011?
What's to stop Kraft from now changing his mind about suing the league? Good to see that he now realizes what a complete moron he was when he decided to drop his threat to sue.
The Jackdog
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no. its. not.
one is something you do OUTSIDE of work which reflects poorly on the product.
one is something you do in the course of your job with reflects poorly on the product.
and most importantly, only one is handled by a legal system in which you can go to prison.
Good to see some true Bostonians finally willing to be honest and admit the truth:
Deal with it Tom Brady and the Patriots are cheaters
Deal with it Tom Brady and the Patriots are cheaters
Bullshit. The penalty for a crime you can't even prove being on par with beating the living shit out of a woman should never be the same. The league is a fucking joke.
Future PhaZe
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lmao stfu kraft
nobody said a word when the skins had 36 million dollars of cap space stolen simply for taking advantage of the uncapped year for a few scrub ass contracts
nobody said a word when the skins had 36 million dollars of cap space stolen simply for taking advantage of the uncapped year for a few scrub ass contracts
LOL no Bostonian gives a fuck about Shaughnessy. He's just as bad as Felger.
LOL Shaughnessy? You may we well put him and Borges on the rocket to Mars. Actually .... could you please? They are nothing but click bait.
The Jackdog
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Are you kidding me? One has you GOING TO JAIL because of something you did outside of work. One is when they are ON THE JOB.
How do you not see the difference? If you get a speeding ticket do you also have to go tell your boss? wtf?
Alligatorjandro
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Nobody cares about the skins tho
dave is ok
aztek is ok
Jesus christ Shaughnessy is a hack.
Don Yee released a statement and Brady didn't!
Brady put out a Facebook post before most people even read this article.
Then why did the Patriots suspend Jim McNally and John Jastremski?
Uhh, because they were caught stealing and selling merchandise?
At least do some basic research. Even if everything he's claiming was done by Brady was done, it still in no way justifies the punishment and doesn't even qualify as cheating. A millimeter of grip! Oh no!
It's not in the CBA. Also an investigation such as you're describing sounds criminal, not administrative.
It's truly SHOCKING that you guys are against the only person that is willing to tell the truth.
Spectral Glider
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Why? What do they possibly have to gain from finding a cover up?
Nope it can be administrative.
It's Shaughnessy man. He could be the only one going to bat for the Pats and no one would like him. Everyone hates Shaughnessy.
If you break an administrative rule with no potential for criminal activity they can force you to open your car for them? I very much doubt this.
Alligatorjandro
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People are just out to get Tom.
Cool. Tom Brady doesn't work for the govt. Goodell has no right to go through his personal phone.
The government is a whole separate ball game in terms of this kind of stuff compared to private industry. They're the only employer allowed to polygraph, for example.
Yep they can. You sign that right away when your employed. My current job does not do that though.
Just wanted to know if players gave that right up in the CBA.
Well, if this is true it's a capability only the government has. And no such clause exists in the CBA.
Fenderputty
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As a neutral outside observer I want this as well. Plus the salt from the Brady haters will be hypertension inducing.
exactly.
and another thing I forgot to post yesterday. Its amazing to me a lot of the people in this thread are the same people that trash goodell and say the league sucks and mishandles just about every suspension, but when it comes to this one, your going to trust the league unequivocally?
Probably nothing is. He's just doing this for show to appease Pats fans that have been killing him recently. These are just empty words, he knows who butters his bread.
crimzonflame
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Oops I meant STILL won.
Best case scenario for Tom is that he gets an injunction and is allowed to play. They should stall everything to the point where if he does gets suspended it will be the last 4 games of season instead of first 4. Pats usually have that weak division won by week 13 anyways.
This is really dumb tho. Forcing him to give up his cell phone is kinda of a messed up thing to do. Like he is accused of murder or something. Goodell has gone way to far with this bs. He should resign as a commissioner.
Greg Hardy beats and chokes his girlfriend. Gets convicted of 2 counts of domestic assault in court and he is suspended for same amount of time as Brady (who most probably had knowledge of deflated balls). NFL has serious image problems. The most Brady should have been suspended for was 1 game. It was just a deflated ball in a game the Colts got wrecked in. The balls had nothing to do with that result.
This is really dumb tho. Forcing him to give up his cell phone is kinda of a messed up thing to do. Like he is accused of murder or something. Goodell has gone way to far with this bs. He should resign as a commissioner.
Greg Hardy beats and chokes his girlfriend. Gets convicted of 2 counts of domestic assault in court and he is suspended for same amount of time as Brady (who most probably had knowledge of deflated balls). NFL has serious image problems. The most Brady should have been suspended for was 1 game. It was just a deflated ball in a game the Colts got wrecked in. The balls had nothing to do with that result.
DrForester
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It would justify them blowing up a minor of technical violation into the biggest fine in the history of the NFL.
The Patriots were issued a fine worse than a team got for putting out bounties on other players.
Tom Brady got a suspension worse than a guy who knocked out his wife.
And this is all due to circumstantial evidence.
To all those who want to crucify Brady, let this sink in. You agree with Robert Goodell.
Shamrock7r
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Not exactly the same. Hardy missed the entire season last year being on the Commisoners Exemption List
Netherscourge
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Because deflecting blame by use of comparison is part of denial.
They're in denial that they've wasted money on Patriots jerseys and tickets for a cheating sham operation. They can't accept that they have been cheering for a cheater all these years. makes them feel liked they were duped.
So, rather than accept that, they make excuses.
The Patriots are cheaters. This is documented, on multiple occasions now, and is a permanent part of their history now.
I don't think the two compare. I personally think that Hardy's suspension should be vacated and that the NFL has no right to punish players for off the field incident, only the team should. Trying to punish players for off-field incidents is just such a murky area and only results in further attention and focused placed on the issue.
and Broncos/Colts/Raven fans would be here defending their player. Is it any surprise to you?
yeah because the Panthers were forced to act because the NFL did not
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