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The left of America should worry about Trump
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No, but do you think she'll likable enough for a majority of Americans to vote her over Trump, or Rubio?
If Donald is the one to bring an NHS style system to the US, I'd love it.
That's a Good thing, all candidates should be pushing for that style of healthcare IMO.
If the Republicans want to run candidates that push for universal healthcare. I say Good. A few more changes and I might actually vote for a Republican.
I'd still be worried about the Supreme Court nominations though.
But
1. The Republicans aren't going to do that.
2. If Donald is elected, and he still wants an NHS style system, He'd never get it past Congress.
gutter_trash
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we all know that John Ellis Bush will be the GOP nominee, lets not kid ourselves
I wouldn't lock it down just yet.
Don't read too far into this ... but Ronald Reagan was full of vapid, silly opinions, but lots and lots of zingers and charisma.
njean777
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WTF, how can you say that when you support Bernie? Like seriously WTF...
Aztechnology
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I hope trump Naders this election. It would be glorious.
gutter_trash
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Roger Ailes is a long time friends with George H. W. Bush.
There is no way that Fox will let Trump run wild now when their 2nd golden boy John Ellis is next in line for the throne
Manmademan
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This. Trump's approval among non republicans is beyond abysmal, and he has no shot at a general election.
Goldenroad
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There is no right wing in the US either if you compare it with Nazi Germany. I mean, clearly we're talking about the American political spectrum here.
It's almost as if left and right are relative terms and that we are talking about American politics, not Swedish politics.
We're talking about the American left. In America, not Sweden.
Goldenroad
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Pretty sure the American people are supposed to be the President's master. Pretty sad that there are American's who want a president who does not have to answer to the people.
This. She looks and acts old and take for example a nominee like Walker/Rubio that would really look energetic compared to her. I mean Hillary has never lost to someone like that before...... She has the personality of a pet rock. But the left is already measuring the drapes. Most people don't really get excited when thinking of 8 years of a Bush or Clinton again. Enough of these 2 families already.
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He'd make a better president than the rest of the Republicans, probably. But I think those not backing Trump now won't later (except those that really hate Bush, but they are probably not enough of them), so as candidates drop out someone else will take the lead.
Pretty much this.
Hilary will have a lot trouble not boring potential voters with her dry personality. Unless of course Bill comes in, and pulls a Gedo, then she'd might have a chance.
exmachina64
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I'm going to cross the fence and vote for Trump in my state's open Republican primary*. After last night, I'm sure of it. The Republicans deserve everything they get for being crazy this past decade plus.
*Provided he's still in the running by then.
*Provided he's still in the running by then.
crowdpac has him as one of the most centrist republican candidates. he is the perfect republican candidate for the left. his chances in the general are very shaky and thus comforting, and him being so close to the center helps drag the general from the center-right back to the center.
https://www.crowdpac.com/elections/2016-presidential-election
https://www.crowdpac.com/elections/2016-presidential-election
I'd prefer a Trump/Busey ticket. I'd vote for that.
FunkyMunkey
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you're getting left and right mixed up op
Lord Fagan
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OP, there's nothing "pragmatic" about alienating women and minority voters in ad ready sound bites in a 21st century electorate.
Dude is thin skinned to a fault. If you publicly point out his idiocy, and stand firm, he turns into a name calling child. That may be what grievance fueled white men butthurt that the 60s are over want, but they aren't going to decide the general. The moderate, thoughtful, between the forty yard lines types do. They don't want a reality show host who brags about conning and scamming bankruptcy creditors to control their nukes and pick SCOTUS judges for lifetime appointments.
Megyn Kelly has bigger balls than any other man on last night's debate because she called him on his shit, and he's acting predictably on twitter as a result. Just wait until the Dem oppo comes out, and another woman publicly hits him, prompting another halting, incoherent stream of consciousness diatribe that comes nowhere near a rational thought. Christ, this guy would quadruple down on eating babies if put to the test.
Dude is thin skinned to a fault. If you publicly point out his idiocy, and stand firm, he turns into a name calling child. That may be what grievance fueled white men butthurt that the 60s are over want, but they aren't going to decide the general. The moderate, thoughtful, between the forty yard lines types do. They don't want a reality show host who brags about conning and scamming bankruptcy creditors to control their nukes and pick SCOTUS judges for lifetime appointments.
Megyn Kelly has bigger balls than any other man on last night's debate because she called him on his shit, and he's acting predictably on twitter as a result. Just wait until the Dem oppo comes out, and another woman publicly hits him, prompting another halting, incoherent stream of consciousness diatribe that comes nowhere near a rational thought. Christ, this guy would quadruple down on eating babies if put to the test.
Vicetrailia
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Man I wish Obama could run again. Biden should run.
That would be South Park level of satire.
If Trump somehow managed to win the Republican primary, he could then state that he has always supported universal healthcare for those who can't afford other solutions. He is not a religious person, he just has to pretend like he cares about abortion or other similar issues to poll well among hard line conservatives.
In the general election one doesn't have to do much, just explain that Hillary is an insider who has received millions in political contributions and is owned by big corporations. That would work if he had any sense to plan ahead of course, obviously he doesn't so this is all pointless speculation.
In the general election one doesn't have to do much, just explain that Hillary is an insider who has received millions in political contributions and is owned by big corporations. That would work if he had any sense to plan ahead of course, obviously he doesn't so this is all pointless speculation.
Man some you people sound like the boy who wanted to end up with the girl next door.
Maybe she(America) wants to be with a charismatic asshole. Even though he treats her like shit from time to time.
Megyn Kelly crashed and burned.
The audience was cheering and laughing during the Rosie thing because they recognized her misogyny question for what it was - a lame PC "gotcha" moment that no one gives a fuck about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP6S3KE2DaI
JetBlackPanda
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I have extreme anxiety that the left is thinking this thing is a landslide and it being close or even a loss. I can't handle a conservative president ever again.
Someone calm me down.
Someone calm me down.
That is true. The crowd loved Trump and so did people around the country according to polls. Megyn Kelly obviously had orders from Ailes but failed miserably in her attempt.
hey_it's_that_dog
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Human rationality is a myth and by extension democracy is a lie.
SolarPowered
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I'm a lefty for Bernie and I'm laughing at all the chaos. Everything from the nomination to a third party run is just fun for the whole family. If Trump wins the presidency the USA will deserve whatever happens afterwards and Hillary supporters will finally shut up about playing it safe with democratic candidates.
FullMetalx117
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Romney really should've ran this time. He definitely could have won this time
Lord Fagan
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I know, right? Kinda like when nobody gave a fuck about last cycle's GOP primaries when the crowd enthusiastically cheered for the death of a man in a coma when even Ron Paul hesitated to go that far, or when they booed a gay soldier via satellite when he was stationed overseas. Nobody ever legitimately worried about the optics of that kind of callous disregard for the very real social trajectory of the nation, huh?
Except the part where you're completely wrong.
SchrodingerC
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Everyone knows the man is only in the race to stroke his insufferable ego and to make more money. Even if by some cosmic intervention he managed to be elected President he would just be all bark, no bite ,and barely anything would pass. For example, he knows that stupid GOT border wall plan would cost hundreds of millions to build, and no one wants to spend that amount of money on a wall that can be easily bypassed underground.
Not to mention he would be savaged on a world stage.
Not to mention he would be savaged on a world stage.
ClayKavalier
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What has he gained so far? Pissing off a bunch of potential customers, pissing off a bunch of politicians he allegedly relies on for favors, pissing off a bunch of business partners...
If I was wrong about the PC thing then Trump wouldn't be talked about at all. Most say it's actually the only thing he even has going for him. There is definitely a sizable amount of populist rage and backlash that's supporting it and propelling him. A lot think it will flame out, but until it does, it hasn't. Personally I think it's a bit different than whatever past incidents you seem to be trying to conflate, but I would have an easier time understanding your point if you made it straightforward like an adult and forewent all the anguished petty sarcasm. As it stands "callous disregard for the very real social trajectory of the nation" looks like nonsense rhetoric word salad.
Lord Fagan
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Sorry, I couldn't find an unhinged, head swaying YouTube video to properly impress you and figured words with more than two syllables would suffice. Can you find it in your heart to forgive me for giving you the benefit of the doubt?
Rhetoric word salad. Adorable.
Hitler was no further to the right than George Wallace or Strom Thurmond.
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