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[RibMan]

No. You need to take a step back and look at the big picture -- don't be fooled by media coverage and headlines. The right of America should be terrified of Trump, because he is forcing Republicans to come out against other Republicans, cementing the narrative that the Republican party is a circus of hateful clowns.

The left should be concerned about an actual Republican candidate who has the finances, intellect, and relationships to make a successful run for presidency. In other words, Jeb Bush is the real danger. His family has more money than you can count, more relationships with people and industries (Oil industry, banking industry etc.) than any other Republican, and last but certainly not the least, he's a very intelligent man who will use his skills (e.g. Bilingualism) to appeal to America.

The good news for the left is that George Bush is considered one of the worst presidents of all time. It's going to be easy for Hillary to build a sticking narrative against him.

 

[Talonz]

Pretty sure Trump doesn't have any actual policies beyond building a wall.

No other Republican has a clue on how to offer an alternative idea at all. This is why Trump has been left to flourish and will continue to do so. If you think Trump can't win the nomination you do not know how the Republican party works. Offering a viable alternative just doesn't happen on the Republican side. How many times has it been brought up that Obamacare sucks but no viable alternative is presented? He can literally float all the way to the nomination on everything less than facts. Facts don't matter to the Republican side.

 

[Cyd0nia]

If he somehow got the nomination, every vote for him would be a ticket to the biggest nation of idiots award.

I hope he splinters the GOP crazy vote, but other than that I wish him no success at all. He's even more ineligible than GWB was.

 

[OuterLimits]

As a person on the right, I'm starting to like Rubio. I think he could do well against Clinton. Kasich, and Carly Fiorina could do well also.

Trump is certainly causing a circus, but eventually he will fade I think.

Democrats should be worried about Clinton. While she certainly has the advantage, her likeability is not very good. Both Bill, and Obama are funny, and do fantastic in campaigns. Hillary doesn't seem to get people excited, has personal baggage and scandals, and isn't nearly as good on the campaign trail. If she were to struggle in the debates against the Republican, then I could easily see her losing the election.

 

[The Technomancer]

A lack of actual platform details never stopped Romney

 

[Kathian]

If he somehow got the nomination, every vote for him would be a ticket to the biggest nation of idiots award.

I hope he splinters the GOP crazy vote, but other than that I wish him no success at all. He's even more ineligible than GWB was.

I think the Democrats need to be careful on Clinton. Democrats are in quite a negligent mood I feel; she's still got to fight an election campaign. Biden has less questions to answer but she's basically the best for Trump to do up against - she's political establishment.

American elections are interesting beasts. A big part is just who the other party are running - policies then come secondary.

 

[Apt101]

The entire country should be worried that "Donald Trump for president" is a thing. The Supreme Court turned our political system into a toilet, when it needed to have finances more scrutinized and reigned in rather than loosened. The system has been packed with shit by the billions and this is the disgusting, runny turd that was belched back out.

I really wish more young people voted. I wish our SCOTUS wasn't loaded with Fox News-y conservative idealogues. I wish gerrymandering wasn't a thing.

 

[Kamaji]

Well I know far too little about US politics but isn't the assumption flawed that all people who are "left" or "centre left" on economical policies are also "left" in terms of like morals/immigration/etc?

Couldn't single payer healthcare system and such parties sway a lot of votes from mostly white blue collar workers?

At least in Europe most racist and misogynic parties are trying to appeal to sacked/neglected blue collar workers & poor rural people by saying they want to maintain and develop social security systems for the people who have the right skincolour.

 

[Apt101]

Well I know far too little about US politics but isn't the assumption flawed that all people who are "left" or "centre left" on economical policies are also "left" in terms of like morals/immigration/etc?

Couldn't single payer healthcare system and such parties sway a lot of votes from mostly white blue collar workers?

At least in Europe most racist and misogynic parties are trying to appeal to sacked/neglected blue collar workers & poor rural people by saying they want to maintain and develop social security systems for the people who have the right skincolour.

Blue collar workers tend to vote Republican in our country. Republican voters who are not wealthy vote against their own self interests. Therefore, since a single-payer system would greatly benefit the working poor and lower-middle class (blue collar), even increasing their wealth over time, they'll vote against it. Because they vote Republican. Welcome to American politics.

 

[BlackSalad]

Trump brings out the worst, which is why it is the best thing for the liberals. I love it. Trump being nominated will give a chance for the crazies to actually find one sentiment of humanity once another democrat is elected.

FOR.

 

[RiccochetJ]

Blue collar workers tend to vote Republican in our country. Republican voters who are not wealthy vote against their own self interests. Therefore, since a single-payer system would greatly benefit the working poor and lower-middle class (blue collar), even increasing their wealth over time, they'll vote against it. Because they vote Republican. Welcome to American politics.

When you hear Republicans talk about the elite or entitled left, look at this post. Read it in a snooty voice and you'll get the idea. Text and how people read and interpret them can vary wildly.

 

[Apt101]

When you hear Republicans talk about the elite or entitled left, look at this post. Read it in a snooty voice and you'll get the idea. Text and how people read and interpret them can vary wildly.

I get your point, but am I wrong? And are those Republicans misguided for calling others who are objective and informed "elite"?

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

As a person on the right, I'm starting to like Rubio. I think he could do well against Clinton. Kasich, and Carly Fiorina could do well also.

Trump is certainly causing a circus, but eventually he will fade I think.

Democrats should be worried about Clinton. While she certainly has the advantage, her likeability is not very good. Both Bill, and Obama are funny, and do fantastic in campaigns. Hillary doesn't seem to get people excited, has personal baggage and scandals, and isn't nearly as good on the campaign trail. If she were to struggle in the debates against the Republican, then I could easily see her losing the election.

At least Kasich has a positive record to point to. How is Fiorina going to explain running HP into the ground and then being forced out as CEO?

On a scale of 1 to 10, how familiar were you with her before last night?

 

[Zeus Molecules]

Nah trump is way to much of a arrogant blowhard to survive general election scrutiny and the fact he's appealing enough to the Repub base to stand in the way of the few candidates who could is great with me.

 

[HarryKS]

I'd say Donald Trump, judging by his recent comments about Kelly, is quite "strongly prejudiced against women". Let's try Misogyny on it's own: "dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women."

Note, you didn't touch racist, another word you said was overused.

So where is your line? How many racist/sexist statements are required before you go, "Huh, that person is a racist/sexist"?

Acts and policies, not statements. Those matter more.


Its is possessive. It's means it is. Its own.

He is not prejudiced against women. Megin Kelly is one female whom he viewed as an opponent.He went for low brow humour. Your whole point for the lack of a better word is inane. As with many others these days who jump on the pejorative 'isms' before understanding what they mean. It's counter-productive.

Trump is not my friend. I don't support him but let's call a spade a spade.

The racism part, I didn't have an opportunity to bring it up. Also, inconsequential. You conflate race with nationality. The implied meaning is incumbent upon you. There are brown Mexicans, white Mexicans, black Mexicans and many other types of Mexicans. Although there might be an overlap, xenophobia is not the same as racism.

Those general ideas apply to every individual. Some seem to get away with more though.

 

[tsumineko]

We were saying all this about Tony Abbot in Australia before... well... he got elected. Have fun America.

 

[Diprosalic]

shouldn't dems support him? they're not gonna nominate him which makes him go 3rd party and guarantee the dems the win.

if he actually gets the nomination he won't stand a chance against Hillbot.

 

[BertramCooper]

The racism part, I didn't have an opportunity to bring it up. Also, inconsequential. You conflate race with nationality. The implied meaning is incumbent upon you. There are brown Mexicans, white Mexicans, black Mexicans and many other types of Mexicans. Although there might be an overlap, xenophobia is not the same as racism.

Those general ideas apply to every individual. Some seem to get away with more though.

Have you completely forgotten Trump's birther crusade?

Are you going to tell me none of that was rooted in racism?

 

[params7]

shouldn't dems support him?

 

[Damaniel]

As a part of the left, the only thing I worry about Trump is that he says something *too* stupid and falls in the polls before he has a chance to do any serious damage to the other Republican candidates. He has no chance in hell of winning it all, but he can at least spend some time making the GOP's lives hell.

 

[ICKE]

Have you completely forgotten Trump's birther crusade?

Are you going to tell me none of that was rooted in racism?

I saw it more as a publicity stunt, he cares about attention regardless how it is achieved. Obviously he makes ignorant comments but anyone could be on the receiving end. Politicians, minorities, women, rich individuals and so on.

He simply does not care and is like a living internet forum/comment section. That is refreshing among people who are tired of carefully constructed sound bites and usual political rhetoric.

 

[BertramCooper]

I saw it more as a publicity stunt, he cares about attention regardless how it is achieved. Obviously he makes ignorant comments but anyone could be on the receiving end. Politicians, minorities, women, rich individuals and so on.

It can be both a publicity stunt and racist.

Which it was.

 

[Knoxcore]

If it came down to Hillary and Trump at this point in time I would lean more towards Trump.

You my friend is no Progressive at all. You will give the reins to a madman than to someone who will at least attempt to push a progressive agenda? Some of these Bernie supporters are delusional. Support your guy, but if he loses, walk the damn line and pull the lever for the Democratic candidate.

 

[120v]

if romney came out of the primary hurt by the GOP "brand" per the circus that was i don't see how the same applies to now. trump could drop out tomorrow and whoever the nominee is will already be tainted

"the left" doesn't have anything to worry about in this regard

 

[TwoDurans]

Arnold won in liberal California. I don't think Trump winning is completely out of the question. America loves celebrities.

He won because he rallied voters to do a recall election to remove the sitting governor. People (myself included) hated this guy so much that the man willing to do something about it became someone to get behind.

At the end of it, Arnold was not the best governor.

 

[Scrooged]

Worried? He'll probably end up running as an independent which will torpedo his chance of winning. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't really want to be president, but just wants to stir the pot. He's going out of his way to be crude and unprofessional.

 

[GiantEnemyGoomba]

Trump is great for the left. If he doesn't get the nomination, he could run as an Independent, secure the presidency for the Democrats, and not lose anything of value. He currently has a leash on the GOP, yet he could start professing Democratic values (more than he already is that is) the day after he no longer feels he could win the election. It's beautiful, actually.

 

[TheLaughingStock]

How's your socialist Marxist going to win when the Trump administration restricts minority voting and allows states to break all sorts of voting rules, backed up by his GOP Supreme Court?

The Trump administration's chances are microscopic.

Why would he do that when he plans to win the minority vote? http://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-ill-win-the-latino-vote-480109123902

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/trump-ill-win-the-black-vote-too

Also, keep in mind states largely determine eligibility rather than a hypothetical Trump administration and turnout for blacks as an example in deep south states is high. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...ief-justice-john-roberts-right-about-voting-/

Deterring millions of minorities to vote in order to win a presidential election is a tall order and policies like that can be rolled back the other way during the next tidal wave for Dems. Nothing to lose sleep at night over.

 

[Valhelm]

I get your point, but am I wrong? And are those Republicans misguided for calling others who are objective and informed "elite"?

You aren't wrong. "Elitist" is just a very clever way for the Republican upper class to demean the less-empowered bourgeoisie who traditionally drive change in American society.

 

[Hilbert]

There is absolutely no reason to be worried about Trump. He is a joke, and even if he becomes the GOP nominee in the general election(no chance) there is no chance of him winning. None.


So sit back and enjoy the show. Don't worry yourself.

 

[spock]

This is anecdotal, but I am in New Hampshire which has a long history as a key state in regards to elections. There appear to be more and more people you would not think of as Trump supporters who are traditionally independent or lean more to the left who are starting to take positive notice of Trump.

The appeal is that he is not a conventional politician (duh), I think many are underestimating the weight that may end up having. So many feel fed up with both parties, simply because both parties represent politics as usual. It's almost as if a vote for trump isn't really a vote for him as a person or his ideology but a vote against the status quo.

Trump is the potential black swan.

 

[Abounder]

No one wants another Clinton or Bush, and Trump is the only candidate that really exploits this. He can bring out nonvoters and is a threat to anyone's campaign on sheer collateral damage alone.

 

[bengraven]

His racism, misogyny and homophobia preclude him from being any credible threat. The only people who should worry are republicans because he's splitting their base.

I can almost promise we'll have a homophobic, racist president within the next 10 years.

Fox News and this new anti-liberal new generation will make it happen.

 

[Drek]

No one wants another Clinton or Bush, and Trump is the only candidate that really exploits this. He can bring out nonvoters and is a threat to anyone's campaign on sheer collateral damage alone.

About 44% of the country wants another Clinton (her favorable ratings) and that is when she's seen as the presumptive candidate, and by proxy a bully/foregone conclusion/forced choice. Americans always root for the underdog/the illusion of free choice so she's getting negative play as a direct result. Once she's in a real 1v1 race with the Republican nominee false equivalency will kick in and people will prefer HRC based on her superior resume, more popular stances on major issues, and superior marketing.

She's going to have hundreds of millions in funding to spend almost entirely focused on the general. She has a strawman candidate in Sanders to make her appear more centrist to the majority of America. The GOP primary system will degrade any candidate's chances of running as a moderate.

Also, presidential election years bring out the majority of people who will ever vote, Trump wouldn't change that and his unfavorable ratings are monsterous. The 23% of likely GOP primary voters are literally the only people who like him. He's tailor made his candidacy to appeal to GOP primary voters and no one else.

Which is great for him as he's proving out the "Trump Brand", what he really cares about. Fox had the biggest debate ever by a mile thanks to him. When this is all over he'll get to pick his next showbiz opportunity from a host of options.

 

[HarryKS]

You my friend is no Progressive at all. You will give the reins to a madman than to someone who will at least attempt to push a progressive agenda? Some of these Bernie supporters are delusional. Support your guy, but if he loses, walk the damn line and pull the lever for the Democratic candidate.

Yo. That's some incredible stuff right there. Like something you'd hear about a little less than a 100 years ago in parts of Eastern Europe.

 

[Kenai]

It's probably been said, but Donald Trump is 100% the best thing that could have happened to the left. Either they have to keep him and they have 0% chance on the general elections because the minority/women base he has gone out of his way to insult this whole time will go out of their way to vote against him in kind (black/Hispanic/women combo vote is no joke), or he loses the Republican bid and fractures the userbase by (hopefully) going third party or turning against the GoP and taking his sizable amount of fans with him.They are screwed either way.

Don't get me wrong, I find the man disgusting in general, but he does a fantastic job of showing the Republican base for what it is. He's a rich, pompous, bigoted asshole with a one liner or buzzword for just about everything not related to actual government policy, so of course he is going to make a fair share of fans on the right.

I wouldn't mind seeing this continue for some time. The more he does, the more we have to record to remind ourselves of what the right currently stands for. I hope he goes for congress next, I can't think of any other way to shake off the left's chronic apathy than someone like Trump.

 

[Glass Joe]

Acts and policies, not statements. Those matter more.


Its is possessive. It's means it is. Its own.

He is not prejudiced against women. Megin Kelly is one female whom he viewed as an opponent.He went for low brow humour. Your whole point for the lack of a better word is inane. As with many others these days who jump on the pejorative 'isms' before understanding what they mean. It's counter-productive.

Trump is not my friend. I don't support him but let's call a spade a spade.

The racism part, I didn't have an opportunity to bring it up. Also, inconsequential. You conflate race with nationality. The implied meaning is incumbent upon you. There are brown Mexicans, white Mexicans, black Mexicans and many other types of Mexicans. Although there might be an overlap, xenophobia is not the same as racism.

Those general ideas apply to every individual. Some seem to get away with more though.

I actually agree with this post for the most part.

Trump going after women who oppose him without putting on the kid gloves may actually be the opposite of sexist. If he went for the low-brow humor with the hormone thing, which he probably did, I don't know if it's terribly relevant. My point is that Trump will choose to attack an enemy in the way he thinks will bother them the most. More of an equal-opportunity offender, really.

Yes, he retweeted someone who used the word "bimbo." But how many times have I called someone a dick? I'm a guy, for clarification. If a woman calls me a dick, is she being sexist? I've NEVER taken it that way.

His "Mexico is sending" rant may be xenophobic, but it is not racist. It doesn't matter if Mexico is or isn't sending rapists and criminals -- if he believes the Mexican government is doing it, his problem is with a country and not its people. No one's calling him racist when he points out China's currency manipulation. Would that not be just as racist?

I think the "attack your enemies with everything" mentality is the same regarding his stunt with Obama's birth certificate. It wouldn't matter if Obama was a white man possibly from France. If he didn't like him, he'd do the same act.

Do I consider his attitudes in this regard "presidential"? No. Entertaining? Yes.

 

[goomba]

Considering:

The US voted Bush in.

Canada voted Harper in

Israel voted Netanyahu in

Australia voted in Abbott in

UK voted Cameron in

It wouldnt surprise me that much if Trump gets voted in.

 

[Freshmaker]

There isn't any reason you should be scared of Trump specifically. The only thing you should be scared of is a story coming out in the middle of next year that Hilary Clinton killed a guy in the 80s and paid to cover it up.

Yeah, that Whitewater scandal has legs I tells you! Legs!

 

[Kathian]

Yo. That's some incredible stuff right there. Like something you'd hear about a little less than a 100 years ago in parts of Eastern Europe.

Two party politics is one choice away from One party politics. Helps when you have both sides in your pocket and no third challenge.

 

[Chariot]

I actually agree with this post for the most part.

Trump going after women who oppose him without putting on the kid gloves may actually be the opposite of sexist. If he went for the low-brow humor with the hormone thing, which he probably did, I don't know if it's terribly relevant. My point is that Trump will choose to attack an enemy in the way he thinks will bother them the most. More of an equal-opportunity offender, really.

Yes, he retweeted someone who used the word "bimbo." But how many times have I called someone a dick? I'm a guy, for clarification. If a woman calls me a dick, is she being sexist? I've NEVER taken it that way.

His "Mexico is sending" rant may be xenophobic, but it is not racist. It doesn't matter if Mexico is or isn't sending rapists and criminals -- if he believes the Mexican government is doing it, his problem is with a country and not its people. No one's calling him racist when he points out China's currency manipulation. Would that not be just as racist?

I think the "attack your enemies with everything" mentality is the same regarding his stunt with Obama's birth certificate. It wouldn't matter if Obama was a white man possibly from France. If he didn't like him, he'd do the same act.

Do I consider his attitudes in this regard "presidential"? No. Entertaining? Yes.

When Trump says "Somebody's Doing the Raping" he doesn't mean the mexican government. And insulting people on oppurtunity is cool in a rap battle, but he want to become leader of a big country.

Trump is so bad he's good, but he's not actually good.

 

[old]

Trump is a populist.

Good. We need a populist. We've needed one for a long time. This country needs a healthy dose of populism.

 

[HK-47]

Trump is a populist.

Good. We need a populist. We've needed one for a long time. This country needs a healthy dose of populism.

Whether we need it or not, Trump's populism is diseased.

 

[Ke0]

If I wasn't an empathetic person who felt extremely bad for the rational Americans, I'd wish every facet of your government was ran by the conservatives and they passed all their bills and laws with no opposition and it stayed that way for 25 years just so Americans can see how utterly crazy they are, and how horrible their whole "fuck you got mine", "us vs them", "as long as those people don't get it, I don't care if I don't get it" really is.

 

[old]

If I wasn't an empathetic person who felt extremely bad for the rational Americans, I'd wish every facet of your government was ran by the conservatives and they passed all their bills and laws with no opposition and it stayed that way for 25 years just so Americans can see how utterly crazy they are, and how horrible their whole "fuck you got mine", "us vs them", "as long as those people don't get it, I don't care if I don't get it" really is.

Then they would blame liberals. That's how it works. Fuck shit up. Blame others.

Conservatives have crashed Kansas into debt and budget crisis...and Brownback blames Obama.