Upgrade to Windows 10?

So I've been wondering. I currently have Win 7 Enterprise on my gaming PC, so obviously I'm not eligible for the free upgrade. However, I have Win 7 Home on my laptop which is eligible, and I have reserved Win10.

Is it possible to use the reserved version of Win10 on my gaming PC instead of my laptop? Or am I just going to have to buy it outright.

Not possible.
 
Can't update to Win10 because it says "no compatible network adapter found" but i'm surfing with a Fritz! Wlan stick and my PC is roughly 3 years old. So the onboard Ethernet port should be fine no? But nice from MS to link me to the next Dell page where I can buy overpriced PCs for 1500,- so i'm Win10 ready instead giving me a solution to my problem. Couldn't find anything on google either. Fuck that, i'm so done with this PC crap.
 
Quick tip to have MS Paint within easy reach:

Right click desktop to create a new shortcut and paste this into where it asks you for the location: %WINDIR%\System32\mspaint.exe

After that you can pin it to the start menu under "Life at a glance" and delete the desktop shortcut, if you wish.

Is that easier than pressing start, typing "mspa", rightclicking the icon as it appears and pinning it from there? Because that's actually how Windows works.
 
dunno if its been posted here but win10 seems to have a rather serious issue with Avast

my start button stopped working, search crashed and cortana commited suicide which all in all meant i couldnt do much at all

windows comes up saying critical error and that it will be fixed next login, but it never fixes it

safe mode>remove avast>done
 
So you cant actually activate windows 10 if your go down the fresh install route as theres no Product key (my windows 8.1 key doesnt work)

I think you have to go the update route than use a key sniffer program get your win 10 key and then do a fresh install!!!

What a Ball ache MS, my not just allow users to register there windows 10 with there account there login into in windows 8.1!!
 
Just started the update, and my computer rebooted into a black screen. Has just been sitting there for 15 min. Any ideas on how to proceed?

Edit: Nvm, I have the PC connected through hdmi to my TV, apparently it send the signal there instead of to my monitor while updating
 
So you cant actually activate windows 10 if your go down the fresh install route as theres no Product key (my windows 8.1 key doesnt work)

I think you have to go the update route than use a key sniffer program get your win 10 key and then do a fresh install!!!

What a Ball ache MS, my not just allow users to register there windows 10 with there account there login into in windows 8.1!!

You can press F8 at reboot and do a fresh install from there there is no need to enter a key, or in windows enter settings -> Update & Security -> Recovery, but you need to go the update route first.
 
Once I upgrade from 7 do I need to make a backup of 10 through a iso?
Currently I have no way to go back to 10 if I needed to reinstall.

I'm confused, so I upgraded but what about the future when I want to do a fresh install or something. How would I go about doing that?
 
So... I'm still waiting to update here.

The "Get Windows 10" window just says "Please wait" when I click on it. I can't access Windows Update anymore, because "Some settings are managed by your system administrator", even though I am the admin.

Not feeling too confident about this.
 
I made a rather huge post about Windows 10, including workarounds to some issues I encountered as well as a small release to make it more easy to associate the old photo viewer with files in Windows 10:

In the process of converting general windows default utilities to “apps”, it seems that almost invariably functionality is lost — often important functionality. The new “Photos” app apparently can’t even show images at 100% zoom with a simple click, and mouse wheel zoom is completely broken. I find that unacceptable.

Luckily, Windows 10 still ships with the old Photo Viewer. Because it’s MS though, that Photo Viewer is not an executable but rather a dll which needs to be hosted and invoked somewhere, so it’s hard to associate with images in Windows 10. To work around this I’ve created PhotoviewerWow.exe. It merely invokes the existing .dll, and should work on Windows 10 64 bit installations. Just put it somewhere permanent and you can easily associate it directly with image files.

It also contains lots of complaints. Well justified ones, in my opinion. Especially about how much the new start menu sucks for actual desktop productivity use.
 
My Win 10 upgrade has been downloading for around 10 hours total now, despite having a 30Mbps+ connection. Is that normal? When I click on the 'view download progress' button, all that happens is the window closes.
 
I'm sure this has been asked before everywhere but I can't find a clear answer.

So, let's say I buy windows 7 pro tomorrow.
Will that still upgrade to 10 for free ? I can, like purchase 3/win 7 licenses for the same price as win 10..
 
I'm sure this has been asked before everywhere but I can't find a clear answer.

So, let's say I buy windows 7 pro tomorrow.
Will that still upgrade to 10 for free ? I can, like purchase 3/win 7 licenses for the same price as win 10..

the free upgrade offer ends July 29th 2016, so yes you can until that deadline.
 
Once I upgrade from 7 do I need to make a backup of 10 through a iso?
Currently I have no way to go back to 10 if I needed to reinstall.

I'm confused, so I upgraded but what about the future when I want to do a fresh install or something. How would I go about doing that?

You can use the install tool from MS if you downloaded it to a USB drive or DVD. It will work the same.

Though you could create a recovery disk from within windows
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/create-usb-recovery-drive
 
I'm sure this has been asked before everywhere but I can't find a clear answer.

So, let's say I buy windows 7 pro tomorrow.
Will that still upgrade to 10 for free ? I can, like purchase 3/win 7 licenses for the same price as win 10..

yes but FYI you'll need to install windows 7 and then do the upgrade on each PC once to get a valid windows 10 product key associated to your account for that PC. after that, you can wipe your pc's and install windows 10 fresh - you just skip all dialogs where you have to enter a product key and then when you sign into win10 with your Microsoft account, it will automatically activate. Just did it 2 nights ago.
 
So you cant actually activate windows 10 if your go down the fresh install route as theres no Product key (my windows 8.1 key doesnt work)

I think you have to go the update route than use a key sniffer program get your win 10 key and then do a fresh install!!!

What a Ball ache MS, my not just allow users to register there windows 10 with there account there login into in windows 8.1!!
All upgrades have the same activation key (they're different between Windows editions only) which can't be used to activate a fresh install on a new h/w.

You have to perform an upgrade which will tie your h/w unique id to the activation server. After that you can do a fresh install of the same Windows edition on the same machine and just skip all the key prompts. Windows will activate automatically by itself once the installation is finished.

So it's basically what I've feared - all 'free' Win10 upgrades are providing an OEM license and are tied to a h/w config. As soon as you'll change the m/b or CPU you'll have to buy the license for Win10 even if you've upgraded from a retail 7/8 license. Which in my opinion is a scam on MS's part since they still didn't say anything on the matter.
 
I made a rather huge post about Windows 10, including workarounds to some issues I encountered as well as a small release to make it more easy to associate the old photo viewer with files in Windows 10:



It also contains lots of complaints. Well justified ones, in my opinion. Especially about how much the new start menu sucks for actual desktop productivity use.

Good write-up, definitely some weird issues still, my laptop does that CPU thing too.
StartIsBack looks very sleek, guess I should get a license.. Not being able to pin programs to Start Menu in normal fashion is the worst.
 
I made a rather huge post about Windows 10, including workarounds to some issues I encountered as well as a small release to make it more easy to associate the old photo viewer with files in Windows 10:



It also contains lots of complaints. Well justified ones, in my opinion. Especially about how much the new start menu sucks for actual desktop productivity use.
Good stuff, though some complaints are carry overs from Windows 8 lol.
Also you can associate photo viewer with everything without extra tools or exes in the "Set Default Programs" menu, Set Associations by App Name or something like that. Also works for media players and web browsers.

But yeah the default start menu needs a bunch of improvements, from proper indexing to traditional program pinning to a wider column for All Apps. Heck I'd even prefer All Apps to utilize the tiles space to display more programs at once.

In the meantime I'm doing what I did in Windows 8, dumping like 20 program shortcuts in the tiles and adding the weather and news tile to make it look nice.
 
Good stuff, though some complaints are carry overs from Windows 8 lol.
Yeah, I went to 10 directly from Windows 7 for my main desktop.

Also you can associate photo viewer with everything without extra tools or exes in the "Set Default Programs" menu, Set Associations by App Name or something like that. Also works for media players and web browsers.
Nope, that only works for *.tif files.

But yeah the default start menu needs a bunch of improvements, from proper indexing to traditional program pinning to a wider column for All Apps. Heck I'd even prefer All Apps to utilize the tiles space to display more programs at once.

In the meantime I'm doing what I did in Windows 8, dumping like 20 program shortcuts in the tiles and adding the weather and news tile to make it look nice.
The thing is, I launch programs by typing basically 100% of the time. If the new start menu doesn't reliably index manually added shortcuts -- and it's doesn't -- it's factually completely useless to me.
If it wasn't for StartIsBack I'd have to write my own or migrate back to Windows 7.
 
Should I just give up on my Creative SB XiFi?
I am back to having the same issues I had with 8 in 10 (just upgraded last night), that there is no sound, I can manually uninstall the drivers and sound comes back on a restart, I did that about 30 minutes ago, but when I restart (had installed the latest from Nvidia) from there I am back to no sound again.
It is beyond infuriating, and I am thinking I will finally just uninstall it for good and use my Realtek Onboard Sound.
Or can anyone shed some light how I can get my Creative SB XiFi working without having to jump through hoops all the time?
TIA,
DL
 
All upgrades have the same activation key (they're different between Windows editions only) which can't be used to activate a fresh install on a new h/w.

You have to perform an upgrade which will tie your h/w unique id to the activation server. After that you can do a fresh install of the same Windows edition on the same machine and just skip all the key prompts. Windows will activate automatically by itself once the installation is finished.

So it's basically what I've feared - all 'free' Win10 upgrades are providing an OEM license and are tied to a h/w config. As soon as you'll change the m/b or CPU you'll have to buy the license for Win10 even if you've upgraded from a retail 7/8 license. Which in my opinion is a scam on MS's part since they still didn't say anything on the matter.

Not really. I confirmed with them another day. All you have to do is not have your license activated in another system and you can use it if you upgrade your hardware. Worst case scenario, you can go to their customer support and they'll help you activate the key in a new/upgraded PC.

No need to worry.
 
FWIW all I did was change the boot hdd and I had a hell of a time getting it reactivated

I'm sure they'll get it sorted out eventually though
 
I've had a new pc today and windows 10 was available straight away which was great. Loving the way it feels but I am having a few issues that maybe some of you could help out with?

Basically, I'm unable to log into the store and the xbox live app, keeps coming up with an error try again. I've tried using a local account instead after doing some research but it is still the same.... I can log into the xbox live website just fine so I know my details are correct.

Any ideas?
 
Nope, that only works for *.tif files.

I just added the registry entries for windows photo viewer for other files type, and they show up in the "default apps" in settings and you can associate it with windows photo viewer from there. I was looking for a way to use it instead of the shitty new photos app.
 
I just noticed that my 970 isn't downclocking at all when idle in Win 10. It used to do this in Win 7 when Chrome was open, but now its staying at the core clock with nothing else running. I'm using Precision X to monitor. Has anyone else experienced this? Solution?
 
It's not hard to simply call their service line... The people they have on there are usually more than happy enough to deactivate the old ones and reactivate on a new system. You may just need your key handy.
 
I just added the registry entries for windows photo viewer for other files type, and they show up in the "default apps" in settings and you can associate it with windows photo viewer from there. I was looking for a way to use it instead of the shitty new photos app.
I can only associate the "legacy" photo viewer with tiff files here:
photoviewervnsq0.png


I did not dig through the registry, but creating the executable which allows me to simply associate it with anything like any other program just took 15 mins or so.
 
I just noticed that my 970 isn't downclocking at all when idle in Win 10. It used to do this in Win 7 when Chrome was open, but now its staying at the core clock with nothing else running. I'm using Precision X to monitor. Has anyone else experienced this? Solution?

i would test with msi afterburner as my 980 is downclocking without issue and no change to energy settings since my upgrade. it may be a problem with precisionx reading the values.
 
I can only associate the "legacy" photo viewer with tiff files here:
photoviewervnsq0.png


I did not dig through the registry, but creating the executable which allows me to simply associate it with anything like any other program just took 15 mins or so.

if you do it the other way you can reassociate them with the old software without installing anything i.e. association by file type rather than program.

right click any file of the file type>Open with...>choose the windows photo viewer and select "Always open with this program"

So whats the general consensus? Is it ok to update for games and stuff like word?

i'm doing it right now and it's fine. no issue with using office, or playing anything off steam. if you have some setup that's a bit more custom, you may want to look into each piece individually.

Is it really that bad? Glad I decided to hold off. Windows 7 is still going fine for now.

it's not no. if you look at the issues people are having, they fall into two categories:

1) subjective issues, like the start menu crowd. don't like the 'feel' of certain things that ms has implemented
2) edge case issues like the guys a couple posts above with the DTS issue, the Creative SB XiFi, etc

if you're using windows like the vast majority of people do, including most on this forum, you're not gonna have any issues.
 
if you do it the other way you can reassociate them with the old software without installing anything i.e. association by file type rather than program.

right click any file of the file type>Open with...>choose the windows photo viewer and select "Always open with this program"
Are you running the final version of WIndows 10, and is that the one you initially installed? Windows Photo Viewer does not show up in the list of programs to open files with in the RTM version of WIndows 10.
 
Should I just give up on my Creative SB XiFi?
I am back to having the same issues I had with 8 in 10 (just upgraded last night), that there is no sound, I can manually uninstall the drivers and sound comes back on a restart, I did that about 30 minutes ago, but when I restart (had installed the latest from Nvidia) from there I am back to no sound again.
It is beyond infuriating, and I am thinking I will finally just uninstall it for good and use my Realtek Onboard Sound.
Or can anyone shed some light how I can get my Creative SB XiFi working without having to jump through hoops all the time?
TIA,
DL

Don't give up on it, I have XtremeMusic on my second computer and had some of the same issues as you.

Did you try the unofficial Windows 10 driver support pack from their forums?
http://forums.creative.com/showthread.php?t=720562
This solved all issues for me. There currently isn't official Windows 10 drivers but they're working on them, should be this month.
Before installing this delete ALL Creative drivers and look for the folders if there's any left and delete those manually too, some tips for the folders in this guide in step 3.
http://support.creative.com/kb/ShowArticle.aspx?sid=68780
 
Not really. I confirmed with them another day. All you have to do is not have your license activated in another system and you can use it if you upgrade your hardware. Worst case scenario, you can go to their customer support and they'll help you activate the key in a new/upgraded PC.

No need to worry.

How? The upgrade doesn't provide you with any license. No activation key, no storing of the license in your MS account, nothing but saving the h/w config of the PC in activation service.
 
1) subjective issues, like the start menu crowd. don't like the 'feel' of certain things that ms has implemented
The "feel" of shortcuts to desktop applications not being indexed is pretty bad. But seriously, it renders the start menu basically useless for anyone who launches their applications by typing und uses dektop programs rather than "apps". So most power users doing useful work on their computer I'd say.
 
Should I just give up on my Creative SB XiFi?
I am back to having the same issues I had with 8 in 10 (just upgraded last night), that there is no sound, I can manually uninstall the drivers and sound comes back on a restart, I did that about 30 minutes ago, but when I restart (had installed the latest from Nvidia) from there I am back to no sound again.
It is beyond infuriating, and I am thinking I will finally just uninstall it for good and use my Realtek Onboard Sound.
Or can anyone shed some light how I can get my Creative SB XiFi working without having to jump through hoops all the time?
TIA,
DL

I had the same issue. WU X-Fi drivers do not work at all (thanks, MS!)

There are two ways you can solve this:

1. Uninstall X-Fi driver in Device Manager and then install the High Definition Audio Device driver manually. Don't reboot or WU will force install the faulty driver again (thanks, MS! I'm so loving this forced updates feature!)

2. Use the DanielK's Win10 support pack: http://danielkawakami.blogspot.ru/2015/08/sb-x-fi-series-support-pack-35.html

Creative promises to release X-Fi Win10 drivers in October so not much else to do but wait.
 
I upgraded from Win 8 to Win 10 yesterday. However once that was completed I decided I wanted a clean install so I used the 'reset' feature. The basic installation went well but after the first reboot I was greeted with a corrupt boot manager error and bootloop. Luckily I had a win 8 recovery image on the laptop and was able to revert back. Now I'm scared to try it again, lol. Anyone else encountered the same problem like i did and managed to fix it?
 
The "feel" of shortcuts to desktop applications not being indexed is pretty bad. But seriously, it renders the start menu basically useless for anyone who launches their applications by typing und uses dektop programs rather than "apps". So most power users doing useful work on their computer I'd say.

I'm not sure what you're talking about. I can launch literally any program in my PC by typing into the search box. Desktop or otherwise.
 
I can only associate the "legacy" photo viewer with tiff files here:
photoviewervnsq0.png


I did not dig through the registry, but creating the executable which allows me to simply associate it with anything like any other program just took 15 mins or so.

I did not want to mess with exes, so i tried the registry edit and it worked fine. Other files type appear there and you can associate.

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Looking around, it seems there's even other ways to get it working, also like someone mentionned here, it seems on some versions you can just right click on the file and use the "open with" option, and windows photo viewer will appear there, but it didn't for me on Windows 10 Home.
 
Looking around, it seems there's even other ways to get it working, also like someone mentionned here, it seems on some versions you can just right click on the file and use the "open with" option, and windows photo viewer will appear there, but it didn't for me on Windows 10 Home.

I believe you have to launch the program at least once for it to appear in that list. But yeah I generally go via "Open with -> select -> Always use this program for that file type". It's easier this way.
 
I'm not sure what you're talking about. I can launch literally any program in my PC by typing into the search box. Desktop or otherwise.
1) Search a random .exe file somewhere on your PC
2) Create a shortcut to it in the start menu
3) Try to launch it

Here's the result for me, left with the default start menu right with startIsBack:
startsvqnn.png


I believe you have to launch the program at least once for it to appear in that list. But yeah I generally go via "Open with -> select -> Always use this program for that file type". It's easier this way.
The thing is, you cannot do that with Photo Viewer on Windows 10 RTM. It doesn't show up in the default list, and you cannot navigate to its .exe or launch it since, well, it's not an exe!
You need some kind of workaround, either editing the registry manually (which I try to avoid) or by creating an exe which launches photo viewer (which I did).
 
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