Life is Strange | Spoiler Thread

Leeness said:
Soooo...anyone else feeling like Nathan probably is no more?

That "text" from Nathan at the end totally wasn't him. :/

I kind of feel bad for him in a way. He obviously got in way over his head. I feel like they never meant to kill anyone but Rachel was an accident and they've been covering it up since, and it was affecting Nathan pretty bad ("Rachel in the dark room" over and over). Obviously they're both scum, but I don't think they were killing anyone.

I'm guessing Nathan finally flipped out completely when he found out that Max was searching his room and told Jefferson and he's probably dead now. :/
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I just assumed his partner/mentor Mr. Jefferson just used his phone. No meed to kill him to do that, i mean they are working together after all.

With regards to them "getting in over their heads" well thats what happens when you start kidnapping/drugging/ possibly raping people. Although it could be argued that Mr Jefferson is manipulating Nathan cause of all his mental issues that his dad has no interest in fixing, but still fuck em both. I dont see the rachel in the dark room thing as guilt but just a part of his mental instability, imo.
 
TheProdigal said:
I just assumed his partner/mentor Mr. Jefferson just used his phone. No meed to kill him to do that, i mean they are working together after all.

With regards to them "getting in over their heads" well thats what happens when you start kidnapping/drugging/ possibly raping people. Although it could be argued that Mr Jefferson is manipulating Nathan cause of all his mental issues that his dad has no interest in fixing, but still fuck em both. I dont see the rachel in the dark room thing as guilt but just a part of his mental instability, imo.
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I mean, they're both scum, but I meant with regards to killing people, I don't think that was their MO and Rachel's death was accidental.

I dunno, Victoria mentions Nathan has been getting crazier lately, the "Rachel in the dark room", it all kind of felt to me like guilt to me. But then again, he keeps doing the same thing (Kate), so who knows.

I don't know, the phone thing felt like it was more sinister than Nathan just giving Jefferson his phone.

I guess we'll see in the end, but hopefully both get their comeuppance.
 
Did anyone ever stop to hear Jefferson's phone call right before the scene with Kate's suicide attempt?

Before you enter the classroom and find Nathan and Victoria at your Desk, Jefferson's phone rings while you're talking to him and he walks off to answer it, so I stayed around and listened for awhile.
The tone of what he was saying made me think (originally) that he was talking to either a girlfriend/wife or someone who was essentially a superior to him, he seemed a little stressed out.

Given what we know now, I found it very interesting.
 
Xiraiya said:
Did anyone ever stop to hear Jefferson's phone call right before the scene with Kate's suicide attempt?

Before you enter the classroom and find Nathan and Victoria at your Desk, Jefferson's phone rings while you're talking to him and he walks off to answer it, so I stayed around and listened for awhile.
The tone of what he was saying made me think he was talking to either a girlfriend/wife or someone who was essentially a superior to him, he seemed a little stressed out.

Given what we know, I found it very interesting.
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Yep... I didn't think it was creepy at first because it sounded like an ex-wife or something, but now...
 
Leeness said:
Yep... I didn't think it was creepy at first because it sounded like an ex-wife or something, but now...
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A few hours after finishing ep 4, I more or less sussed it was Nathan that he spoke to considering the nature of the call and the note you find on the computer when doing into the dark room.
 
Nathan is in the classroom talking to Victoria so the phone call isn't from Nathan.

Also fairly certain the note about calls is from Nathan's father, not Jefferson. It's there to explain why Nathan has multiple phones.
 
Corpekata said:
Nathan is in the classroom talking to Victoria so the phone call isn't from Nathan.

Also fairly certain the note about calls is from Nathan's father, not Jefferson. It's there to explain why Nathan has multiple phones.
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I didn't think about how Nathan is in the classroom at that point so the call is certainly from someone else, nice catch.

I'm still fairly sure the note on the computer is from Jefferson though. He doesn't write the same way his father writes Nathan. The "Or you're on your own" part seems off. The letter isn't signed by his father either like the others usually are. And we know for a fact Jefferson operates out of that bunker and doesn't want Nathan to call him out by his real name.
 
Jachaos said:
I didn't think about how Nathan is in the classroom at that point so the call is certainly from someone else, nice catch.

I'm still fairly sure the note on the computer is from Jefferson though. He doesn't write the same way his father writes Nathan. The "Or you're on your own" part seems off. The letter isn't signed by his father either like the others usually are. And we know for a fact Jefferson operates out of that bunker and doesn't want Nathan to call him out by his real name.
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IIRC there are notes to Nathan's father there, like the psychiatrist saying he will no longer treat Nathan that suggest his father has been there and that he financed the bunker.

I'd actually say the writing is somewhat similar, both the letters to Nathan we see talk about creepy vague destiny type stuff.
 
Is it possible that Jefferson is Sean Prescott? In one of the letters his father admonishes Nathan for "calling his name in public" or something to that effect. Why would that be an issue unless his father is going around with an assumed identity?
 
Sean Prescott and Jefferson are two relatively famous people in Arcadia Bay so it's very unlikely they are the same person.

I'd wager Jefferson might be a Prescott (bastard child? cousin?) but he isn't Sean.
 
There's quite some games that have pulled the whole deal where two characters are the same person because one's the same guy from the past or something. The way the timelines have came into play in this game I don't think that will end up being the case here but I don't want to rule out the possibility yet. I'd also just be disappointed because I've seen that done a few times before and I think this game is going for something different, maybe a more emotionally impactful twist.
 
Corpekata said:
Sean Prescott and Jefferson are two relatively famous people in Arcadia Bay so it's very unlikely they are the same person.

I'd wager Jefferson might be a Prescott (bastard child? cousin?) but he isn't Sean.
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He could be the Prescott that owns the barn. It's not Sean Prescott who owns it, after all.
 
I don't think Jefferson is Sean Prescott either. I still think that Jefferson is the author of the text message and note but we won't know until next episode I guess as both could be using the bunker regularly. At least we know Jefferson does. We don't know that Sean Prescott does not but he definitely knows it exists. I wonder why he'd leave the psychiatrist note there knowing Nathan would likely see it.

I think there's more to what was going on the night we broke into Blackwell ever since I saw Mari's video on how there seemed to be people everywhere we went before we went and how the police said there was "vandalism" when we did none. There was a lot going on that night. The lights shut off in the photography class and Jefferson comes out with Victoria. Dana mentioned she'd just snuck out so she somehow knew Jefferson was there at night? Maybe Nathan told her he had business with Jefferson or something and left and she was that as an opportunity to get Jefferson on her good side. There's also the principal who was drunk and talking to someone if I remember correctly. I might go through that section again sometime.
 
AgeEighty said:
Is it possible that Jefferson is Sean Prescott? In one of the letters his father admonishes Nathan for "calling his name in public" or something to that effect. Why would that be an issue unless his father is going around with an assumed identity?
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I get why you want to think this but that letter was from jefferson not his father. The letters in the barn were there to make you think his dad was helping him, a red herring so you would be shocked at it being jefferson. It doesnt make any sense to me for sean to be pretending to jefferson.
 
Jachaos said:
I don't think Jefferson is Sean Prescott either. I still think that Jefferson is the author of the text message and note but we won't know until next episode I guess as both could be using the bunker regularly. At least we know Jefferson does. We don't know that Sean Prescott does not but he definitely knows it exists. I wonder why he'd leave the psychiatrist note there knowing Nathan would likely see it.

I think there's more to what was going on the night we broke into Blackwell ever since I saw Mari's video on how there seemed to be people everywhere we went before we went and how the police said there was "vandalism" when we did none. There was a lot going on that night. The lights shut off in the photography class and Jefferson comes out with Victoria. Dana mentioned she'd just snuck out so she somehow knew Jefferson was there at night? Maybe Nathan told her he had business with Jefferson or something and left and she was that as an opportunity to get Jefferson on her good side. There's also the principal who was drunk and talking to someone if I remember correctly. I might go through that section again sometime.
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I think he was drunkenly talking to himself. Although does anyone think he's a part of all this? At the end of Ep.2, during the montage, he's talking to Jefferson, who then drives away. He seemed a lot angrier than when he chastised him about not noticing Kate's' situation.
 
Egg0 said:
I think he was drunkenly talking to himself. Although does anyone think he's a part of all this? At the end of Ep.2, during the montage, he's talking to Jefferson, who then drives away. He seemed a lot angrier than when he chastised him about not noticing Kate's' situation.
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I thought about him too in regards to the phonecall
 
Gbraga said:
What if Jefferson is actually Kojima
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Chloe is quiet! She grows so rebellious and finds such a trend in not talking at all. Does to do some mercenary work after getting so mad at David.And Chico too! Their names are so similar! MGS 2 levels of story ambition rite!!??!!
 
I should get a LiS avatar, you guys have some amazing ones. I see that the fan art is great for this game.

On terms of songs to end the game on, I think Middle Class Men from Syd Matters (same one from Obstacles and To All of You!) is pretty amazing and magical. Just what this game needs. It feels great for a happy ending (or unique sad ending). EDIT: Also the lyrics kind of resonate with that Robert Frost poem Alyssa quoted to Max.

Also, now that we're on it, I find it so freaking awesome that Syd Matters himself composes the music of the game. I hope he keeps doing the music for the other seasons.

KingBroly said:
I've seen that, and I guess there's some plausibility to it.

If you go from episode to episode as well, Max sounds older in each episode, at least to me. Then you've got the homeless woman who says she's been there for a thousand years and Max has no problem with that.

I guess if you wanna get nuts, you could say Rachel Amber is Max from the timeline Max swapped into, and yeah...that's where your mind goes wild.
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Didn't Max say in this episode how she was feeling older and older? And that is just on the passing of a single week!

tomtom94 said:
Someone on the Life is Strange subreddit identified the stills on Nathan's projector as being from the film The Cabinet of Dr Caligari.

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This fucking game, guys. I have to wonder how long this game took to plan, because I want them to have the same time for a Season 2.
 
I just realized I never spoke to any homeless person ever. I think I missed something.

Edit: I see, I went directly for the diner instead of going to the back alley in episode 2. Unfortunate.
 
Jachaos said:
I didn't think about how Nathan is in the classroom at that point so the call is certainly from someone else, nice catch.

I'm still fairly sure the note on the computer is from Jefferson though. He doesn't write the same way his father writes Nathan. The "Or you're on your own" part seems off. The letter isn't signed by his father either like the others usually are. And we know for a fact Jefferson operates out of that bunker and doesn't want Nathan to call him out by his real name.
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The computer note is totally Jefferson. Like Max comments that it's from Nathan's dad but she doesn't have the whole story yet and it's obviously not his father. Why would his dad insist on Nathan using a burner phone and not saying his name in public? Haha.

Anyway, any theories going around about the Prescotts and the tornado? They have a storm bunker, and I don't remember where, but pretty sure there is a note somewhere (barn?) about how they'll just wait out the storm and rebuild the town? I wonder if they've done it before.
 
You guys must think everyone is a bloody murderer!
 
That Dude John said:
He was never on mine. I feel dumb.

And I hope I don't have to appeal to Nathan for something in episode 5. I'd be beyond fucked.
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Lol same. If he isn't already dead and I have to try to "get through" to him, gonna be rough.

Same thing if I have to have been nice to David for him to save Max lol.

ROUGH TIMES AHEAD.
 
I can at least be calm I stopped Warren off beating Nathan into fetal position. David? Shit, I have nothing.
 
Leeness said:
The computer note is totally Jefferson. Like Max comments that it's from Nathan's dad but she doesn't have the whole story yet and it's obviously not his father. Why would his dad insist on Nathan using a burner phone and not saying his name in public? Haha.

Anyway, any theories going around about the Prescotts and the tornado? They have a storm bunker, and I don't remember where, but pretty sure there is a note somewhere (barn?) about how they'll just wait out the storm and rebuild the town? I wonder if they've done it before.
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It's in one of the e-mails on Nathan's computer. His father says "Don't worry about Blackwell. This shit hole town is going to get an enema along with a fresh brand" here. In the trailer for Ep. 4 there was also Nathan screaming "a storm is coming, you're all gonna die!" but that didn't happen after all. From that, some have speculated that they know the storm is coming and they built a bunker to protect from that and there's also thought that the photo thing is related to the supernatural stuff in the sense that they're a cult and summoning the storm.
 
I dont think the prescott have anything to do with the storms, I havent seen any evidence of anything. How could they anywway? The cause is probably max's time travelling powers maybe some kind of temporal paradox tornado thing like the flash season 1 ending. Around ep 3 my thinking was if there hasnt been any headway into the mystery of these strange phenomena until the last ep then its probably max
 
Yes, I feel the reveal of the bunker and Jefferson and Amber shot down any chances of lovecraftian cthulhu shit. DONTNOD telegraphed it purpose, but then turned around to hit you with some coldhearted reality, True Detective S1 style. Only, it's going to be Max that'll be the source of Arcadia's impending destruction.
 
That Dude John said:
You're a better man teenage girl than I. Once I saw him pull a gun on them again, I let Warren get his alpha on with no remorse. I never picked a choice so fast before that lol.
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I cant believe people stopped him, he really deserved it after all the shit hes done to chloe, kate, rachel, various others.

But if he were to ever get arrested I could see him getting off with diminished capacity or something with his fathers money and the fact that hes fucked up mentally.
 
When David talks with Max in the garage if you sided with him he echoes a bit of the warning he had if you didn't side with him. "Don't wander off into the dark" is worded differently but seems to be something he feels the need to say rather than something that came up to him during the conversation. I swear if he needs to be home (and thus find the Dark Room's map directions we left open on Chloe's computer) to save Max then I'm in trouble and I'd really have to rely on Nathan or Frank or Warren and thankfully I think I could manage that. I did get Nathan suspended but pulled Warren off him and Nathan still has his gun. I've been cool to Warren and Frank now seems to be real cool so hopefully one of them comes through.

Edit: Link didn't include timestamp, now updated.
 
Jachaos said:
When David talks with Max in the garage if you sided with him he echoes a bit of the warning he had if you didn't side with him. "Don't wander off into the dark" is worded differently but seems to be something he feels the need to say rather than something that came up to him during the conversation. I swear if he needs to be home (and thus find the Dark Room's map directions we left open on Chloe's computer) to save Max then I'd really have to rely on Nathan or Frank or Warren and thankfully I think I could manage that. I did get Nathan suspended but pulled Warren off him and Nathan still has his gun. I've been cool to Warren and Frank now seems to be real cool so hopefully one of them comes through.
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Do you know the sequence of choices that keep him home? I assume not blaming him or siding with chloe.
 
Persona7 said:
Do you know the sequence of choices that keep him home? I assume not blaming him or siding with chloe.
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I'm pretty sure siding with him is all you need for him to be home. What he says and other actions and him losing his job and his surveillance plan and all of those probably change depending on other actions though.

Edit: Other interesting stuff in that video is right after the talk with David (The Pan Estate stuff you can ask David about if you rewind after seeing the Pan Estate documents). Didn't know about that. He says he gave Sean Prescott an estimate for his (David's) own reasons.

Edit 2: Oh and that note on the computer in the Dark Room does have the same handwriting as the letter from Sean Prescott to David. So it might be his father's and not Jefferson's... or it might just be a font they'll use for handwritten notes and that we shouldn't look too much into who might've written what based on calligraphy.

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TheProdigal said:
I cant believe people stopped him, he really deserved it after all the shit hes done to chloe, kate, rachel, various others.

But if he were to ever get arrested I could see him getting off with diminished capacity or something with his fathers money and the fact that hes fucked up mentally.
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Eh, I stopped the fight more out of annoyance at Warren and Dontnod. They keep freaking forcing Warren as a protector down your throat. Pisses me off. They let me rein in Chloe's aggressiveness, but Warren just sticks his nose in, and they don't allow any way to avoid it. Screw your time powers Max, this guy will protect you now.
 
^ yeah I get that.

Anyone find it interesting that max is a ride or die chick for chloe. When we were going to the dance I thought max would try to talk chloe out of looking for nathan and maybe go to the police cause we all know shes gonna unalive him. But no! Max was gonna stay with her and see it to the end.
 
Might've been brought up already, but is anyone else annoyed that you couldn't just get the decryption of Frank's client list and then rewind time and not deal with him at all while still keeping the list? Just either give him the money if you have it, or do have Chloe do the "I wanted to tell you in person I didn't have it." and just get the fuck out of there without having the "we need something from you" conversation.

I love this game, but I wish it was 100% consistent with what you can and cannot keep when rewinding.
 
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