Life is Strange | Spoiler Thread

This fucking game, guys. I have to wonder how long this game took to plan, because I want them to have the same time for a Season 2.

Well, considering that DontNod didn't release any games after the mediocre performance that Remember Me did in the box office, my wager is that after Remember Me was finished, DontNod spent the rest of the time creating Life is Strange. Just a logical conclusion.
 
^ yeah I get that.

Anyone find it interesting that max is a ride or die chick for chloe. When we were going to the dance I thought max would try to talk chloe out of looking for nathan and maybe go to the police cause we all know shes gonna unalive him. But no! Max was gonna stay with her and see it to the end.
Max has serious guilt for abandoning Chloe when she moved after Chloe's dad died, and not keeping in touch. Big factor of her current persona (this guilt didn't nag her in alternate world between ages 13 to 16, so she was less sensitive when Chloe got into her accident and was the kind of person to go full Vortex). So there's no way she'll just abandon or fully betray Chloe. She's in it for the long haul.
 
Eh, I stopped the fight more out of annoyance at Warren and Dontnod. They keep freaking forcing Warren as a protector down your throat. Pisses me off. They let me rein in Chloe's aggressiveness, but Warren just sticks his nose in, and they don't allow any way to avoid it. Screw your time powers Max, this guy will protect you now.

Honestly I get the feeling he is doing that because he knows more than he is letting on but that's just a hunch from me.
 
Honestly I get the feeling he is doing that because he knows more than he is letting on but that's just a hunch from me.

The last time we see him before the party is after him beating Nathan: Max asks him to find out more about Nathan's father. He says he's on it. Then he goes back to the dorm. Nathan just said "Plus, my dad's on his way. You're all dead! He owns you!" so he very well might've come across him and sneaked around trying to get some info. Then he might've acted like he was drunk at the party, or he was dosed. But either way, it would make sense that he knows more than he lets on.
 
The last time we see him before the party is after him beating Nathan: Max asks him to find out more about Nathan's father. He says he's on it. Then he goes back to the dorm. Nathan just said "Plus, my dad's on his way. You're all dead! He owns you!" so he very well might've come across him and sneaked around trying to get some info. Then he might've acted like he was drunk at the party, or he was dosed. But either way, it would make sense that he knows more than he lets on.

I think you are looking far more into Warren's character than it should be. To me, he appears simply as a support character trying to win over Max and doing whatever he can to impress and win her over. Nothing less and nothing more.

The main conflict is between Mr. Jefferson, Chloe, Max, the Prescotts, Nathan, and possibly David. Warren doesn't have anything to do with the plot as I see it.
 
I think you are looking far more into Warren's character than it should be. To me, he appears simply as a support character trying to win over Max and doing whatever he can to impress and win her over. Nothing less and nothing more.

The main conflict is between Mr. Jefferson, Chloe, Max, the Prescotts, Nathan, and possibly David. Warren doesn't have anything to do with the plot as I see it.

I'm not saying that it's a certainty he know more than he lets on, just bringing up potential instances that would support it. It's still a stretch, and Samuel and Frank and David probably all know more than Warren does but I just mean that it's not impossible.
 
I must've been a simpleton but I have grown up with the assumption that all teachers should be treated with respect and dignity because of the service they are providing to society. Not for a second did I doubt Mr. Jefferson and like Max, thought of him as a mentor and true motivation for Max's budding photography career. Who would've thought that he would mixed be in with the likes of the Prescotts? Damn...turned everything on its head for me, this episode did!
 
With regards to the final episode being able to wrap up the story & tie up most of the loose ends, I honestly wonder how it's going to happen.

Also, maybe it's just me, but it was never shown that Nathan himself is involved in anything, other than being a mentally unstable, rage inducing punk that is in the wrong place at the wrong time. He doesn't seem capable of stalking his prey and keeping them hidden from the public eye, as he seems to deal with his problems with aggression and violence without using any logic or reason.
 
I must've been a simpleton but I have grown up with the assumption that all teachers should be treated with respect and dignity because of the service they are providing to society. Not for a second did I doubt Mr. Jefferson and like Max, thought of him as a mentor and true motivation for Max's budding photography career. Who would've thought that he would mixed be in with the likes of the Prescotts? Damn...turned everything on its head for me, this episode did!
Placing so much trust on a person you don't even actually know is really dangerous imo. Plus some teachers just suck at being teachers tbh
 
I must've been a simpleton but I have grown up with the assumption that all teachers should be treated with respect and dignity because of the service they are providing to society. Not for a second did I doubt Mr. Jefferson and like Max, thought of him as a mentor and true motivation for Max's budding photography career. Who would've thought that he would mixed be in with the likes of the Prescotts? Damn...turned everything on its head for me, this episode did!

Over a couple of playthroughs I found a few hints that made me suspicious of Mr. Jefferson.

1) Stella flat out tells you Rachel was boning him. Could have been gossip though.

2)The Old Woman
AncientMax
tells you she saw Rachel with an older man. In retrospect though this could have been Frank.

3) One other thing I noticed was the handwriting on the Everyday Heroes entry folder was similar to the handwriting on the binders.

So nothing super concrete, but enough to raise suspicion. Still though everything with Nathan in Ep 4 worked really well to misdirect me so that it was a pretty big shock when Mr. J showed up.
 
Guys I thought about a few things

- Jefferson being the culprit could explain why David was so spiteful when he talked about him in EP4.
- Maybe Episode 5 will indeed have a golden route/ending where Max unravels everything and hopefully have Chloé alive. We know Max can jump back in time in way earlier points by concentrating on a photograph she appears on. What if she does not go back to before the "End of the World" party (selfie photograph with Warren) but to the selfie of the beginning of the game ?
- I think Nathan is more of a victim now. Maybe Jefferson's enabling him / blackmailing him.
- Theory time : Max belongs to the fool arcana, the doe we often see is a manifestation of her persona Cernunnos, the blue butterfly is Philemon, Sean Prescott is Lucifer, and Mark only wanted to help Chloé awaken her persona with his Evoker.
 
Guys I thought about a few things

- Jefferson being the culprit could explain why David was so spiteful when he talked about him in EP4.
- Maybe Episode 5 will indeed have a golden route/ending where Max unravels everything and hopefully have Chloé alive. We know Max can jump back in time in way earlier points by concentrating on a photograph she appears on. What if she does not go back to before the "End of the World" party (selfie photograph with Warren) but to the selfie of the beginning of the game ?
- I think Nathan is more of a victim now. Maybe Jefferson's enabling him / blackmailing him.
- Theory time : Max belongs to the fool arcana, the doe we often see is a manifestation of her persona Cernunnos, the blue butterfly is Philemon, Sean Prescott is Lucifer, and Mark only wanted to help Chloé awaken her persona with his Evoker.

When was this?
 
Holy smokes, the entire time in the alternative timeline was heart wrenching.

Haven't felt so emotional playing a game in a long, long time. That decision...I don't want to say what I chose, but damn...I did not expect the game to even offer such a choice and for it to be handled so well.

Fuck. I had to stop playing after Max got back to her timeline. I'm just not ready to continue playing right now.
 
- Maybe Episode 5 will indeed have a golden route/ending where Max unravels everything and hopefully have Chloé alive. We know Max can jump back in time in way earlier points by concentrating on a photograph she appears on. What if she does not go back to before the "End of the World" party (selfie photograph with Warren) but to the selfie of the beginning of the game ?

I don't see what going back to the selfie at the start of the game will do, she can't go out of the bounds of the photo and only has a little time to change things, if she goes to the beginning what will she do?

I can see her using the Warren selfie as she could then tell Chloe or Warren something that would then alter the future.
 
Holy smokes, the entire time in the alternative timeline was heart wrenching.

Haven't felt so emotional playing a game in a long, long time. That decision...I don't want to say what I chose, but damn...I did not expect the game to even offer such a choice and for it to be handled so well.

Fuck. I had to stop playing after Max got back to her timeline. I'm just not ready to continue playing right now.
It's probably the hardest thirty minutes or so that I've ever had in a game. The whole alt timeline in ep4 is a gut punch of hella proportions.
 
Eh, I stopped the fight more out of annoyance at Warren and Dontnod. They keep freaking forcing Warren as a protector down your throat. Pisses me off. They let me rein in Chloe's aggressiveness, but Warren just sticks his nose in, and they don't allow any way to avoid it. Screw your time powers Max, this guy will protect you now.

Main reason I let Warren continue the fight is cause I didn't think it was a good idea for Nathan to have a gun when we didn't. But yeah, I don't really like Warren at this point.
 
When was this?
In my playthrough when you go downstairs in the garage in order to get David's documents in his locker, I defended David against Chloé back in Ep 3 so he's still here, and I talked to him. He had unkind words for Jefferson.

I don't see what going back to the selfie at the start of the game will do, she can't go out of the bounds of the photo and only has a little time to change things, if she goes to the beginning what will she do?

I can see her using the Warren selfie as she could then tell Chloe or Warren something that would then alter the future.
Yes true, I completely forgot you are limited to the bounds of the photo...yeah going back to the Warren selfie is more likely then.

It's probably the hardest thirty minutes or so that I've ever had in a game. The whole alt timeline in ep4 is a gut punch of hella proportions.
Yeah I had to stop playing too, and as I did not know what to expect from the game I had a long hard thinking about what would I do if I were in this situation.



Anyone else felt a little bad when Warren beat Nathan so much he begged and cried for mercy ? ._.
 
I really hope the theory ends up being true that Rachel was a Rewinder. I'm in love with the idea that rewinding and giving herself better outcomes is why everybody from jocks to nerds to skater punks to teachers to drug dealers—everyone but Victoria—seems to have loved her.

And perhaps Max only got her power when the person to whom it was originally given, the one who was meant to stop the coming disaster, died.
 
Well, considering that DontNod didn't release any games after the mediocre performance that Remember Me did in the box office, my wager is that after Remember Me was finished, DontNod spent the rest of the time creating Life is Strange. Just a logical conclusion.

The writing could have started before that, but yeah.

In my timeline he was sad that I broke up his family.

Same here.
 
Anyone else felt a little bad when Warren beat Nathan so much he begged and cried for mercy ? ._.

I did. I almost went with the decision to stop Warren because of how bad I felt. However, I noticed that when you let Warren continue to beat up Nathan, Chloe grabs his gun before you leave. When you stop Warren, Nathan takes it. I have no idea if that is going to play a role in the final episode but I felt a lot safer separating that kid from his weapon.
 
I did. I almost went with the decision to stop Warren because of how bad I felt. However, I noticed that when you let Warren continue to beat up Nathan, Chloe grabs his gun before you leave. When you stop Warren, Nathan takes it. I have no idea if that is going to play a role in the final episode but I felt a lot safer separating that kid from his weapon.

On one hand I wanted to take the weapon from him. On the other, I felt that if we took it the police could get on us and convict us more easily if Nathan ever decided to take legal action...


I really appreciated how the encounter with Frank went. There are so much possibilities based on you previous choices.
 
It's in one of the e-mails on Nathan's computer. His father says "Don't worry about Blackwell. This shit hole town is going to get an enema along with a fresh brand" here. In the trailer for Ep. 4 there was also Nathan screaming "a storm is coming, you're all gonna die!" but that didn't happen after all. From that, some have speculated that they know the storm is coming and they built a bunker to protect from that and there's also thought that the photo thing is related to the supernatural stuff in the sense that they're a cult and summoning the storm.

Hm, I thought there had been an actual note that mentioned the storm from them. Or maybe I'm mushing things up in my head. I know the bunker was called "stormbunker" on the receipt for it, though.

But you guys are probably right that if it hasn't been dealt with yet as a connection between the Prescotts and the storm, then it probably won't be. There's enough loose ends that having more and more explanations for things at this point will make episode 5 a monster unless the answers are fairly straight forward.

I do hope there are some swerves though :)
 
Mr. Jefferson: Seriously though, I could frame any one of you in a dark corner, and capture you in a moment of desperation. And any one of you could do that to me. Isn't that too easy? Too obvious? What if Arbus chose to capture people at the height of their beauty or innocence?

Is this quote foreshadowing or is Jefferson being the one behind the Dark Room a red herring ?
 
Is this quote foreshadowing or is Jefferson being the one behind the Dark Room a red herring ?

He is (one of the people) behind the Dark Room. He has the drugs, his reflection is seen on the table in the Ep. 5 teaser and he has a link to the photo related aspects seen in the dark room (the Dark Room name itself, the equipment, binders, etc)

Edit: And it is nice foreshadowing. I also think the first post in this thread is interesting too. "Hitchcock once called film little pieces of time".
 
I did. I almost went with the decision to stop Warren because of how bad I felt. However, I noticed that when you let Warren continue to beat up Nathan, Chloe grabs his gun before you leave. When you stop Warren, Nathan takes it. I have no idea if that is going to play a role in the final episode but I felt a lot safer separating that kid from his weapon.

But then, that kid with his weapon could save you from Jefferson!

God, anything can happen. I'm terrified.
 
I have this problem where I'm not playing episode 5 like right now

Is it weird I want to wait longer? I want to savor this game still being in the releasing stages and replay some of the episodes and speculate on the last one. I'm gonna miss this once I'm done with episode 5.

(also I'd rather not have to stop playing metal gear to play this)
 
I'm really jealous of those future games who will not have to wait between episodes. episode 5 can't come soon enough.

I actually don't. I think the 2-months wait between each episode and all the discussions about theories, different playthroughs and choices really enhance the experience. This is a game that loose a lot of its charme by binging, IMHO.

BTW here's a quick check on my relationship status with possible rescuers from the dark room:

. Nathan. got him suspended, let Warren kick his ass: definitely not
. David. stepped in to take Kate's side, got him kicked out the house: mmh, I'd say it's a no
. Frank. Tried to shoot him, didn't hurt his dog but ended up stabbing him in the leg: hard
. Victoria. I made fun of her, and she didn't trust my advice: nope

. I also stole the disabled student's fund (so Welles might not be my hero) and almost never talked to Samuel. The only people whose good side I'm on right now are Kate, Alyssa (I warned her each and every time) and Warren. I hope they allow Warren to be one of the possible rescuers... otherwise I think I'm done
 
Edit 2: Oh and that note on the computer in the Dark Room does have the same handwriting as the letter from Sean Prescott to David. So it might be his father's and not Jefferson's... or it might just be a font they'll use for handwritten notes and that we shouldn't look too much into who might've written what based on calligraphy.

Content of the letter matters a lot more post-reveal. Why would Sean Prescott worry about his son contact him with his normal cell phone? Why would he even use disposable cell phones to talk to his son? It's already known that Nathan is Prescott's son so nothing to hide. On the other hand, Nathan calling Jefferson directly while under suspicion would definitely lead the police and others his way eventually.
 
I actually don't. I think the 2-months wait between each episode and all the discussions about theories, different playthroughs and choices really enhance the experience. This is a game that loose a lot of its charme by binging, IMHO.

BTW here's a quick check on my relationship status with possible rescuers from the dark room:

. Nathan. got him suspended, let Warren kick his ass: definitely not
. David. stepped in to take Kate's side, got him kicked out the house: mmh, I'd say it's a no
. Frank. Tried to shoot him, didn't hurt his dog but ended up stabbing him in the leg: hard
. Victoria. I made fun of her, and she didn't trust my advice: nope

. I also stole the disabled student's fund (so Welles might not be my hero) and almost never talked to Samuel. The only people whose good side I'm on right now are Kate, Alyssa (I warned her each and every time) and Warren. I hope they allow Warren to be one of the possible rescuers... otherwise I think I'm done
I'm also surprisingly okay with the episodic format and the wait between episodes, it sort of enhances the narrative in a way I can't properly explain. For example, it's cool and rewarding to see how a decision I made back in January (comfort Victoria) has turned out to be very relevant in a conversation with her 5 months after the fact (I managed to convince her to believe me because I treated her well back then).

Regarding choices so far, this is my situation:

- Nathan: Told on him to Principal Wells, got him suspended, but I stopped Warren from kicking his ass: I don't have much hopes since the poor kid is unstable as fuck anyway
- David: Took Kate's side but later sided with him instead of Chloe, he's grateful to Max for that: since he was already keeping tabs on Jefferson, I think he might be able to help, I have high hopes for him to do something heroic once and for all!
- Frank: Same, didn't hurt his dog but he stabbed himself in the leg: doubt he'll want anything to do with Max/Chloe, he said as much
- Victoria: Was overall nice to her through the entire game, she told Max to text her if she needed anything: I think she'd be willing to help, but how much can she do, realistically?
- Warren: I've turned him down many times, but he still wants to play hero: might be relevant regardless of what the player has done so far, seems to be (or want to be) pretty involved
- Kate: Alive and well in my game, but still in the hospital; she's in contact with Max through text messages, maybe she'll get worried and do something if she notices Max isn't answering her texts anymore?
- Alyssa: Helped her every time, it's her turn to save Max now!

Can't wait for ep. 5, but at the same time I'm sad to see this story end. I love the world and the characters!

EDIT: I believe Max will have to escape on her own and using normal means instead of depending on her rewind power. It'd be cool to have another moment like Kate's suicide attempt where her rewind wasn't working. It looks like whatever Jefferson injected her with was messing with her power, so it might be a possibility...
 
I must've been a simpleton but I have grown up with the assumption that all teachers should be treated with respect and dignity because of the service they are providing to society. Not for a second did I doubt Mr. Jefferson and like Max, thought of him as a mentor and true motivation for Max's budding photography career. Who would've thought that he would mixed be in with the likes of the Prescotts? Damn...turned everything on its head for me, this episode did!
As someone who has two parents as teachers I get where you're coming from
but I then had a teacher who completely turned a blind eye to harassment of me, and this was a teacher everyone loved and very dry but jovial (day I learnt a "cool" teacher can be an infinitely shittier teacher than a strict one)
So when Jefferson start saying that victim blaming kate I started suspecting him, because it had an air of familiarity
 
Let's see....

- Nathan got suspended, but I didn't let Warren beat him up
- I took a picture of David with Kate, but took Chloe's side and he's in a Motel somewhere
- Tried to shoot Frank, got his Dog ran over, but I didn't tell him that, stab him or shoot him, so we're cool.
- I didn't make fun of Victoria, and she took my advice

I didn't see the handicapped fund, but I allowed Warren to take Max to the movies
 
Does her using her rewind power to convince someone (like Nathan) to help her escape count as saving herself?
well no, i kinda want it to be her and mr jefferson alone and her beating him without another person intervening

Yeah I felt awful

I felt a little bad about it cause he was basically crying but at the end when i saw him in the picture with rachel , I was glad and wished he had gotten worse.
 
I'm also surprisingly okay with the episodic format and the wait between episodes, it sort of enhances the narrative in a way I can't properly explain. For example, it's cool and rewarding to see how a decision I made back in January (comfort Victoria) has turned out to be very relevant in a conversation with her 5 months after the fact (I managed to convince her to believe me because I treated her well back then).

Regarding choices so far, this is my situation:

- Nathan: Told on him to Principal Wells, got him suspended, but I stopped Warren from kicking his ass: I don't have much hopes since the poor kid is unstable as fuck anyway
- David: Took Kate's side but later sided with him instead of Chloe, he's grateful to Max for that: since he was already keeping tabs on Jefferson, I think he might be able to help, I have high hopes for him to do something heroic once and for all!
- Frank: Same, didn't hurt his dog but he stabbed himself in the leg: doubt he'll want anything to do with Max/Chloe, he said as much
- Victoria: Was overall nice to her through the entire game, she told Max to text her if she needed anything: I think she'd be willing to help, but how much can she do, realistically?
- Warren: I've turned him down many times, but he still wants to play hero: might be relevant regardless of what the player has done so far, seems to be (or want to be) pretty involved
- Kate: Alive and well in my game, but still in the hospital; she's in contact with Max through text messages, maybe she'll get worried and do something if she notices Max isn't answering her texts anymore?
- Alyssa: Helped her every time, it's her turn to save Max now!

Can't wait for ep. 5, but at the same time I'm sad to see this story end. I love the world and the characters!

EDIT: I believe Max will have to escape on her own and using normal means instead of depending on her rewind power. It'd be cool to have another moment like Kate's suicide attempt where her rewind wasn't working. It looks like whatever Jefferson injected her with was messing with her power, so it might be a possibility...
Hmm for my relationships:

Nathan: Kept his secret because the the principal was in his pocket and it was probably more trouble to tell, but I got suspended and he didn't... And I pulled Warren off of him. Hopefully Nathan doesn't know that's more out of annoyance at Warren than worrying about Nathan's well being...

Frank: Couldn't shoot him, kept his dog safe, and he gave us the list out of his undying love for Rachel Amber. We're practically BFFs now and he sends me texts and cookie recipes like all the time now. Hopefully he never realizes how many times I spilled beer and beans all over him...

Victoria: Didn't take a picture of Victoria paint covered, undid the rearranging of her pictures. She totally believed me about Nathan, and we have plans to go shopping next week with Taylor and Courtney (who is going to give me that make-over she promised). Sadly, by warning her about Nathan, she probably fell right into Jefferson's hands...

David: I stopped him from talking to Kate, I signed the petition against him, and I totally wrecked his marriage. It's sad because the more and more I learn, the more he seems like a decent guy who actually is trying to protect his stepdaughter (though I can't be all warm and fuzzy about him because in an alternate timeline he did hit her... ass). I think if he found the dark room in time, he'd totally save me. He's too duty bound to just let me die because of something so trivial as ruining his life.

Warren: Fuck Warren.

Alyssa: Always helped her. I suspect she's the real reason I got my powers...

But yeah, if Max can get out of it on her own I'll be especially happy! If Warren shows up and saves her, I will make a replica of my PS4 out of cardboard and stomp it into the ground (I won't hurt my real PS4 because it's so expensive).

Edit: Changed the second Frank to David... Cause I'm stupid. Thanks renegade_dewitt.
 
Frank: I stopped him from talking to Kate, I signed the petition against him, and I totally wrecked his marriage. It's sad because the more and more I learn, the more he seems like a decent guy who actually is trying to protect his stepdaughter (though I can't be all warm and fuzzy about him because in an alternate timeline he did hit her... ass). I think if he found the dark room in time, he'd totally save me. He's too duty bound to just let me die because of something so trivial as ruining his life.

I think you must have meant David here, right? Gotta do that stealth edit!
 
Hmm, maybe I can remember...

I let Warren have his way with Nattan, that jabroni acts too high and mighty, needed a good humbling. Did not tell Principal Wells in the beginning, don't trust that guy but it doesn't seem like that matters much anyway.

While Chloe+Max are my perfect couple, I'd be cool if Max got with Warren instead. Warren seems like he cares about her, is a nice kid and they'd be cute together. I've been nice to him and open to the idea of going out.

On the outside I've been against David most the time but it's kind of obvious to me that he means good and is just way too high strung. I took Kate's side in their encounter and Chloe's side in his discovery of the blunt.

Frank is the only one I'm second guessing myself about. Chloe shot him and his dog. I also have an inclination that he's not terrible besides being a drug dealer and all, but in all honesty keeping him alive doesn't do Max/Chloe any good. I really don't know if I should value his trust too much.

I'm trying to see through Victoria's act and I have hoped that she's good deep down. I've been nice to her since episode one and she believed my warning in episode 4. Hope things end up good for her, seems like a good person turned bad thanks to the competitive and individualistic nature of high school.

I couldn't let Kate die. A lot of the characters in this game seem like sweet people, but out of all of them she seems like the nicest most genuine one. Going to keep things cool with her.

I've saved Alyssa every time. I think that's in Max's character and I don't see any reason why not.
 
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