DrROBschiz
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You could store all the gear in the Vault before deleting
Then experience the new stuff and put the gear back where it once was
Shouldn't Bungie give us a 4th character slot to experience all Destiny v2.0 offers?
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You could store all the gear in the Vault before deleting
Then experience the new stuff and put the gear back where it once was
Why do you need a fourth character slot?
Your character is nothing more than the sum total of your gear. Just put your class gear in your vault, and create a new identical character.
The limit on characters is to slow progression and prevent people from weaseling their way around weekly lockouts by making a ton of alternate characters.
Your character is nothing more than the sum total of your gear. Just put your class gear in your vault, and create a new identical character.
The limit on characters is to slow progression and prevent people from weaseling their way around weekly lockouts by making a ton of alternate characters.
When was I ever arguing that something (rep, level gain) wouldn't be lost in regards to deleting a character in patch 2.0? Learn to read...peace!
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Because then people would game the system even more.
Having all different classes puts you in a pretty big disadvantage when compared to people who have 3 of the same class.
On the plus side you know every class and can use all the exotics.
That said I want more slots so I can 3 of every class should I return
Wonder why didn't soulbind class gear
DrROBschiz
Member
Can I put that character's rep level with vendors in the vault too?
Birgitte2004
Member
More options is only good if it does not come with costs.
I can't think of a cost in this particular case, but "More Options = good" is not a universal truth.
DrROBschiz
Member
Why does that matter
Rep level doesnt give that many inherent benefits and you would be better off leveling them up from scratch anyways now that the whole system is changing
silver.tongue
Member
As if gamers don't already spend too much time in destiny. :/
If you really want something like that just put your stuff in the vault, delete a char and start again. Or replay the missions, like you said, OP.
If you really want something like that just put your stuff in the vault, delete a char and start again. Or replay the missions, like you said, OP.
Or they could err on the side of player choice and let us have more character slots but then implement a limit on the number of times you can receive high-end loot from the NF each week.
It used to, but not really anymore with all the ways you can upgrade / earn max level armor nowadays.
DrROBschiz
Member
I'm not really sure what is "lost" by replaying the missions with a fully levelled character?
Did you really have that much fun slogging through the story with a bunch of grey & green gear? How is that more fun than just cranking the difficulty up and blasting through them with a Gjallarhorn?
Did you really have that much fun slogging through the story with a bunch of grey & green gear? How is that more fun than just cranking the difficulty up and blasting through them with a Gjallarhorn?
That's literally another constraint that people have a way to complain about. Look, I don't make any claims to know how to balance a game to make everyone happy but I would assume you need to draw a line somewhere between choice and what's best for the vision you're trying to make for your game. As someone said earlier in the thread WoW gets away with adding a slot every time a new class is made. I don't see a reason why that system can't work here. I see nothing other than a personal reason for wanting to start over from scratch. You literally have nothing to gain form starting the story over (in the way of game rewards) when 2.0 drops. It's for your own personal preferences at point which is fine, but I don't think people should complain because bungie doesn't want to cater to people that think there should be more slots when 3 is enough for most people.
We reached parody territory when people started arguing against choice. But that's par for the course for Destiny threads.
DUFFMCWALIN
Member
To you. Maybe not to someone else. This push back between Destiny Gaf and Non Destiny Gaf is old and getting annoying. Especially as someone who plays the game and sits directly in the middle.
I'd like more character slots, but I'm pretty sure it's also factored into the fact that you can get a drop per character in places with a weekly lockout.
Effigenius
Member
Why is there any golden number? If I want to play through as a titan 100 times, why can't I? Is it really just because they dont want you able to do the weekly challenges with 100 different alts? A) who has time for that, and b) what harm is that doing? Especially now with the new leveling system.
this really has no place in the current discussion.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Even week 1 of a new release?
DUFFMCWALIN
Member
Then go talk to a mod and not waste a reply with this shitty response.
DrROBschiz
Member
Because characters and everything else is STORED on a SERVER
Thats why if you wiped your PS4 today your character would remain intact
Its like an MMO in that respect and why vault space is linked
Might have something to do with that or some other imposed limitation
Thats why if you wiped your PS4 today your character would remain intact
Its like an MMO in that respect and why vault space is linked
Might have something to do with that or some other imposed limitation
bigdaddygamebot
Member
I don't think they want more than 3 because it'll probably be too easy for people to get exotics with 4+ characters. Then they might start losing players because they don't have as much to work towards. Not as much of a reason to keep playing since weapons will be easier to max out too with the extra XP/bounties from a fourth character. So I get why they haven't done it. I think they should though. Gives people a reason to play through the game/story missions again to see the changes.
I have 3 max characters but I might delete one of them to play through the game from the beginning with a friend who is going to be new to the game. Would've been nice if I could do that with a fourth character instead but oh well. I don't really lose anything so I'll get to keep all the armor/weapons I have for that class.
DrROBschiz
Member
This actually brings up an interesting thing
Since the Loot system is being overhauled to consider gear you have already aquired... does it ignore other characters and the Linked Vault?
Not to mention Collections are linked as well. You guys are looking at this wrong
This isn't 3 characters. Its one character with 3 AVATARS linked together and assigned to your PSN account
Does Diablo 3 have a character limit just out of curiosity?
You can do that anyway. Click on story mission, select difficulty, play. The only thing you miss is the first story mission before your first trip to the tower. If you want to do that one two create a free sub account and start a new game.
They can but I don't think most veterans are going to do that. Maybe a couple times but I don't see people running most of the missions just to see the changes when the rewards are so little when you're maxed or near max level compared to other things you can be doing. They'll be dipping into the new stuff instead. It's much easier to run that stuff with a brand new character.
Noisepurge
Member
Economy has been somewhat calculated to top out at 3 characters. If you would have four that would mean even more exotics, marks, coins and everything faster.
DrROBschiz
Member
The 3 character limit is clearly by design
Especially with TTK
Marks are linked, Glimmer is linked, Collections and Vault space are linked
Like I said you technically only have ONE character when you think about it
I could see how someone would have wanted more than 3 character slots in the early days. You could have an easier time leveling if they allowed more than 3 character slots because you had a better chance of hitting 30/32 if you were running 3x of the same class then if you had 1 each. But after Taken King drops, your level is no longer tied to your gear. So really, why anyone would want more than 3 slots I can't understand. What would you do beyond rolling one of each class?
Let me pose this question: If they didn't have activities that resulted in weekly payouts (nightfall, weekly heroic, etc), what would be the incentive to have 4 character slots (after already rolling one of each class)?
Let me pose this question: If they didn't have activities that resulted in weekly payouts (nightfall, weekly heroic, etc), what would be the incentive to have 4 character slots (after already rolling one of each class)?
Playing with a friend who is new to the game.
I'm torn... I'd really love a 4th character slot to go through the story again, but I can see why they wouldn't want to give you a 4th character to access yet another set of loot, raids, nightfalls, bounties, etc each week. With the amount of time I already dump into this game, a 4th character sounds burdensome. It sure would be nice to be able to pick up a few low level items that I want again though (some of the Hunter cloaks, the un-upgraded starter ship, etc).
I'm sure as hell not going to delete one of my current characters to go through it again. Too many stats and hours invested into their history to be ok with losing that.
I'm sure as hell not going to delete one of my current characters to go through it again. Too many stats and hours invested into their history to be ok with losing that.
InsaneTiger
Member
How dare you be so pragmatic? You should demand a fourth character! OP says you are owed one.
DrROBschiz
Member
Well with TTK you would actually be strained in a few ways with 4 "Active" characters
Since so much is now shared among them all you would be effectively spreading resources even thinner... the largest of those being legendary marks
InsaneTiger
Member
Very true, a fourth slot would spread glimmer and marks too thin. I already don't like that marks are shared and capped in what you can hold.
You could still do that though. There is no scaling once you hit the same level or above as the enemy you're attacking. And if you're afraid of having OP weapons or armor equipped you can still equip low level whites/greens/blues that you find along the way.
SmartWaffles
Member
Diablo 3 gives you like 10+ character slots for 5(6) classes, it is simply not an excuse.
I think there's very few people that would use a 4th slot unless they introduced a new class.
I guess the best argument is playing through with a friend from the beginning, I am not sure how they would implement a 4th slot without a new class when it would throw things out of wack in my opinion but I guess if they charge for a slot or if it is included in an expansion.
I think it is completely valid because Diablo 3 needs the slots for both ladder and hardcore since characters are seperate for those modes.
Destiny doesn't have that issue.
DrROBschiz
Member
There really is no reason not to just delete a character
You basically only lose rep levels which is kind of a non issue with all TTK changes
You basically only lose rep levels which is kind of a non issue with all TTK changes
InsaneTiger
Member
An excuse would suggest Bungie has failed to provide an adequate reason for not giving players a fourth slot. Has there been an uproar over another slot? Has Bungie said "no we can't."
As far as I can tell it revolves around three.
3 class, 3 subclasses, 3 weapon slots, Half Life 3; therefore 3 character slots.
Correct me if I'm mistaken, but theres also way more room for different builds among those 5/6 classes, and several different difficulties you might want to play that change the game considerably, some with permadeath.
Not that I'd argue against more player freedom, but you're missing nothing but weekly lockouts in Destiny by having three characters. Otherwise its the same game with all options available.
At some point it boils down to having a new bar to fill, and if thats all youre looking for delete the character and start over - all other progress can be saved in one way or another.
DrROBschiz
Member
Thanks to collections and vault space you really lose next to nothing by deleting a character.
Sure you jave to relevel a few factions to 3 but they made that simpler than ever in TTK with new class items, perks, and the new allegiance system for factions
You now need to level back 40 (or 20+, depending on where you were).