DVXuser has a good deal on the 85.
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?339830-Rokinon-cine-85mm-T1-5-Canon
$175
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DVXuser has a good deal on the 85.
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?339830-Rokinon-cine-85mm-T1-5-Canon
$175
OrangeAtlas
Member
Oh wonderful, thanks!
How big is too big though? Does an 85mm lens start limiting me more, or does it just give me the opportunity for greater depth of field?
(I'm new to all of this, I appreciate the help).
85 is a longer lens (the higher the mm, the tighter it will be on your subject). It's not a good walk around lens as it's going to be quite tight.
I would suggest reading up on lenses. Start here:
http://www.gizmag.com/camera-lens-buying-guide/29141/
SamuelSupreme
Banned
Love this thread. Beginning filmmaker. Ive been a videographer for a while but im new to telling stories. Will post some stuff here later
grounded_dreams
Member
Any advice using and learning Affect Effects for a beginner? I'm slowly going through the tutorials on CoPilot but its not easy.
afternoon delight
Member
Really nice work, love the color scheme and that pull back camera flow. Very fancy and very well done.
In our town there's an annual 8mm festival for any and all to enter. Some spend a lot of money on props, some don't. Friends and I have had a LOT of fun creating no-budget genre shorts for the past three years but I'd like to share the last one we did:
Happy Birthday Doctor Samsa
Basically, if it's cheap and weird looking it's supposed to be- this is 8mm after all. We're doing our best to pull off larger concepts with the familiarity of audience expectations and tongue firmly planted in cheek... Like, the audience of Grindhouse would get what we're going for.
We've done an apocalyptic motor gang thriller, exoplanetary science fiction, and sci fi kung fu spaghetti western schlock. But I think Happy Birthday Doctor Samsa is the weirdest and most fun.
This is the process by the way, to help appreciate a little more what's going down.
Hi all! Here's my tale...
Back in 2010, before my wife and I were married, I convinced her to act in a zombie short that would be part of a web series.
Fast forward five years and I'm finally done. I fleshed it out and turned it into a 60min feature.
Starring friends, family and volunteers, it's my take on the beginning of the Zombie outbreak.
If you are feeling up for it and have an hour, maybe you could check it out.
It's called "...And Then Everything Changed"
And it's on Amazon!(SD only)
HD option: http://andtheneverythingchanged.vhx.tv/
Amazon link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014VB7EQ6/?tag=neogaf0e-20
I wish you guys success in you movie making endeavors!
Back in 2010, before my wife and I were married, I convinced her to act in a zombie short that would be part of a web series.
Fast forward five years and I'm finally done. I fleshed it out and turned it into a 60min feature.
Starring friends, family and volunteers, it's my take on the beginning of the Zombie outbreak.
If you are feeling up for it and have an hour, maybe you could check it out.
It's called "...And Then Everything Changed"
And it's on Amazon!(SD only)
HD option: http://andtheneverythingchanged.vhx.tv/
Amazon link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014VB7EQ6/?tag=neogaf0e-20
I wish you guys success in you movie making endeavors!
Awesome. That must have been fun to make. Film makes everything look a little bit more legit.
Congratulations on finishing the movie! Nothing like a project that is finished and you can call your own. Trailer looks great too.
Thanks! I'm glad that it's out there. And my wife is glad to be done filming. Haha.
killertofu
Member
Here's a fun game:
Spend a week with an awesome idea for a short film before realizing you just outlined the same plot as another movie
Spend a week with an awesome idea for a short film before realizing you just outlined the same plot as another movie
itsbenoclock
Member
Just posting to remember this thread exists. I'm leaving home to start Film Production at Arts University Bournemouth in the UK tomorrow so I guess I might share some stuff from that in the future.
I have some shorts online but linking them feels a bit self-promote-y, nothing I'm too proud of tbh but hey at least it got me into uni.
I've been lucky enough to get into a BFI Academy course and a BAFTA mentorship in the past year so if anyone from the UK wants to know about that give me a PM.
Got a Sony A7s a couple of weeks ago so should be fun to experiment with that.
I have some shorts online but linking them feels a bit self-promote-y, nothing I'm too proud of tbh but hey at least it got me into uni.
I've been lucky enough to get into a BFI Academy course and a BAFTA mentorship in the past year so if anyone from the UK wants to know about that give me a PM.
Got a Sony A7s a couple of weeks ago so should be fun to experiment with that.
John Blade
Member
Now you got a camera, go out and start shooting and make quick short and try to minic the style of famous people work and learn how's its done. Still, I wish you luck in your future study.
Yep. Never stop making movies.
dehydratedbabies
Member
My hacked GH2 crashed and ruined some footage that I really didn't want ruined, so I really can't rely on it anymore and I'm thinking about upgrading to either a GH3 or a GH4. Can anyone who has experience with both tell me if the GH4 is worth the extra money?
John Blade
Member
Here is a link of comparison of GH3 vs GH4
http://www.imaging-resource.com/cameras/panasonic/gh3/vs/panasonic/gh4/
A video comparison
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7Grj67XCUk
Did try it out GH4 at the store and it's actually not a bad camera. I guess, it come down to do you need 4K video filming and higher ISO over the GH3. To me, I stick with the GH3 not only the price is lower but I don't really need the 4K record option which is still debate a bit online about the bit rate from it.
afternoon delight
Member
Couldn't load the site on my phone but I'd also suggest FMA - the Free Music Archive. Lots of Creative Commons tracks from an incredibly varied amount of artists.
Yeah, that's really fun. Then again, there's nothing new really plot wise so just twist it slightly or think of it from a different character's view?Here's a fun game:
Spend a week with an awesome idea for a short film before realizing you just outlined the same plot as another movie
Thanks Willy. Yeah, film is a freaking treat. Maybe we'll eventually graduate to 16mm but the downsides are soooo hefty in terms of cashish. (Pay for processing, praying for a good transfer, at the mercy of encoders on their end...)
Will check it out when I'm at my computer again but regardless, congratulations. Absurd amount of work, much respect.
That is very lucky, make the most of it! It'll be hard to have time on your own to film outside of university so enjoy it as much as you can. Plus, people around you will actually want to be a part of film so take advantage.
hey guys,
I'm a newb filmmaker-wannabe. Been helping a few friends with videos and planning on doing a lot more in my free time, which thankfully I have loads of at the moment.
Just wondering, why you always refer to 'video DSLRs'. I'm a huge fan of the micro 4/3 cameras and think that moving from my rented/borrowed Canon 5D to buying the Olympus E-M10 is probably the best step I've done. A lot more affordable body, actually affordable prime lenses, not to mention I love the cut and digital quality. The only downside I can see for video is the focus time and low-light performance. But for your average outdoors/studio environment I'd say it's superior, considering the price difference.
I'm a newb filmmaker-wannabe. Been helping a few friends with videos and planning on doing a lot more in my free time, which thankfully I have loads of at the moment.
Just wondering, why you always refer to 'video DSLRs'. I'm a huge fan of the micro 4/3 cameras and think that moving from my rented/borrowed Canon 5D to buying the Olympus E-M10 is probably the best step I've done. A lot more affordable body, actually affordable prime lenses, not to mention I love the cut and digital quality. The only downside I can see for video is the focus time and low-light performance. But for your average outdoors/studio environment I'd say it's superior, considering the price difference.
I think most people just use "video DSLR's" as a catch all term for any photo/video hybrid camera system with interchangeable lenses. They're all more or less the same type of camera, but there's all kinds of different sensor sizes and cameras with mirrors vs. mirrorless that it's all just a bit convoluted. The average person also doesn't even understand that my Panasonic GH4 isn't a DSLR like a Canon 5Dm3, for example, even though they look and function very similarly.
The reality also is that they all do more or less the same thing, but individual cameras have individual strengths that are more well suited for specific tasks (this one has crazy low light capability, that one has full frame sensor, this one has internal 4k, that one has in body image stabilization, this one has focus peaking/zebras, that one has LOG color profile, this one does anamorphic, that one does 120fps, this one has manual audio control, etc etc etc), so it all depends on what the person needs in their camera.
I'm going to meeting this week with the biggest production company in my country after I pitched them a TV show yesterday in an e-mail. 15 hours later the head of company sends an e-mail back asking for a meeting. Shortly after that I got an email from a TV channel also asking for a meeting
My head is spinning
My head is spinning
I'm going to meeting this week with the biggest production company in my country after I pitched them a TV show yesterday in an e-mail. 15 hours later the head of company sends an e-mail back asking for a meeting. Shortly after that I got an email from a TV channel also asking for a meeting
My head is spinning
Whoa, thats awesome! Good luck and I hope all goes well.
John Blade
Member
I'm going to meeting this week with the biggest production company in my country after I pitched them a TV show yesterday in an e-mail. 15 hours later the head of company sends an e-mail back asking for a meeting. Shortly after that I got an email from a TV channel also asking for a meeting
My head is spinning
I do wish you a good luck in this endeavor and hope you manage to get your dream to come true. If not, do make this as a learning experience to help you in your future endeavor.
Whoa, thats awesome! Good luck and I hope all goes well.
Thanks.
Its been really hard not telling everbody I know about this. I've only told my girlfriend and best friend and I know nothing is for sure until a deal is signed. I've been burned by that kind of shit before.
Also the waiting in next 3 days is gonna be difficult.
Mike Works
Member
Yesterday was the first shooting day for a film that I wrote, produced, and am directing with my writing partner.
Before all this, I lamented not being a director nor producer due to having to relinquish creative control.
Now I'm realizing there are not enough God damn hours in the day.
Before all this, I lamented not being a director nor producer due to having to relinquish creative control.
Now I'm realizing there are not enough God damn hours in the day.
starchild excalibur
Member
Great work, man. You obviously put a lot of love into it. The only critique that I have is with the musical choice - you're probably already aware of it, but there are tons of trailers that tend to do the whole "juxtapose idyllic music with horrific scene + record skip" thing. Maybe you just did it because of its popularity. If so, I can't fault you for that. It's just a minor nitpick.
Buttonbasher
Member
Preach it.
I'm looking to get into filmmaking as a hobby, i really like most of the travel videos on vimeo. Like this for example : https://vimeo.com/62959319
Looking to do similar stuff like that, if anyone can kindly point me in the right direction to know more about filmmaking - that would be awesome! (Like framing, what to start shooting in your hometown, ect) My brother has a GH3 & GH4 and I can use that
Looking to do similar stuff like that, if anyone can kindly point me in the right direction to know more about filmmaking - that would be awesome! (Like framing, what to start shooting in your hometown, ect) My brother has a GH3 & GH4 and I can use that
afternoon delight
Member
Good luck Strax! I'm sure the next forty eight hours will be interesting, but just uh, keep cool and confident. It's your story to tell so let em know. I'd suggest listening to 'Microphone Fiend' by Erik B and Rakim.
Mike Works, what's the nature of what you're shooting? And have you tried black coffee mixed with espresso?
Mike Works, what's the nature of what you're shooting? And have you tried black coffee mixed with espresso?
thats interesting to hear because in reviews of the EM10 I keep hearing about how it is limited for video shooting compared to other m4/3 cameras. You've not found that?
Outside of me being a one trick pony (pan then slide) does anyone have any feed back for a commercial I recently shot?
https://www.facebook.com/AggieStationMHK/videos/1020364201342260/
Thanks! I'm filming more so it's appreciated!
https://www.facebook.com/AggieStationMHK/videos/1020364201342260/
Thanks! I'm filming more so it's appreciated!
Anton Sugar
Member
Thinking about making the switch from my BMCC to an Ursa Mini. Just seems so much more versatile, in terms of what it can do. More expensive but also seems a lot more future-proof.
Mike Works
Member
Short film in three locations where the majority of the shoot takes place inside a car. The first location was fairly controlled (shot in my neighborhood), but our DP had setup problems early on and the sun was sifting in and out of the clouds mid-takes.
Second scene we're shooting tomorrow in multiple locations and one of them we're doing somewhat guerrilla style, which will be interesting.
Third scene is next week and involves a smoke machine inside the car. Gonna be a gong show.
Well its quiz show so I doubt they'll change much if it goes on the air since its the basic concept is what sets it apart.
i'm (theoretically) jumping up from a 5D MKIII to the 4K ursa mini. kinda wishing i'd put myself on the order list earlier, but i wanted to at least know it's shipping before november. : /
afternoon delight
Member
Never pay for permits. Never!
Anton Sugar
Member
I've also thought about getting the Ursa (Ursa Major? They really missed out on a cool naming opportunity
) but don't know if I want to deal with anything that heavy/big. Mini's form factor is wonderful.Did you see the footage released yesterday from the Ursa Mini 4k? It apparently uses an upgraded/iterated version of the 4k sensor in the Production cam, looks fantastic: https://vimeo.com/139130557#at=0
Oof, sorry to hear that :-\ I really can't praise having a solid EVF/monitor enough. However, *slightly* soft is better than *very* soft!
Probably the shittiest focus pulling situation I've been in was pulling focus for a cam op who was doing a long, handheld, kinda frenzied-tracking shot, without a monitor. It was during the day, so the op was able to get some depth of field, but I think we were still between a f4 and 5.6, which can get pretty shallow. Had to judge focus by estimating the distance we were from each subject as we moved around the party, which really wouldn't have been so bad, but we were pressed for time, people weren't consistently hitting the same marks, etc.
I don't know who all here owns a Panasonic GH4 or has been paying attention to the V-LOG L situation, but they done fucked up.
Short story is Panasonic created a LOG color profile for the GH4 some time ago, a version of the V-LOG profile they developed for the Varicam, and have been putting it out there to more prominent users for beta testing. For like a year. It was unclear for a long time if it would be released to the public at all, and in what form, if it would be free or held back for a GH5 or what.
They finally announced last month it would hit in September and be a paid upgrade of $99. Not outrageous, but kind of a bummer it's not just a free update considering competitive cameras already have LOG profiles built in. It's supposed to be shipping this week.
The kicker is the upgrade process was super convoluted. It entailed first updating to firmware 2.3, which was just released. Then you order the upgrade key for V-LOG L, only it's not just a serial number that's emailed to you or something. It's a physical thing they send you. Then you export the serial number of your camera out to an SD card using a new function from firmware 2.3. You upload that serial number, and the software key you got from Panasonic, to their website. This will generate an activation code for you, which you then put on an SD card, stick it in your camera, and then activate the code, which then unlocks V-LOG L.
The thing is the 2.3 firmware already put V-LOG L on the camera, it is just locked behind this complicated activation process. But they fucked up. Because there is an iOS/Android app by Panasonic that lets you wirelessly monitor and control camera functions. And if you connect your camera to the app, you can use the app to scroll through your picture profiles and V-LOG L is right there. And then you can save this to a custom profile so you can easily access it without the app. And then you have V-LOG L on your camera for free, in a process that is several orders of magnitude simpler than the official upgrade procedure no less.
Short story is Panasonic created a LOG color profile for the GH4 some time ago, a version of the V-LOG profile they developed for the Varicam, and have been putting it out there to more prominent users for beta testing. For like a year. It was unclear for a long time if it would be released to the public at all, and in what form, if it would be free or held back for a GH5 or what.
They finally announced last month it would hit in September and be a paid upgrade of $99. Not outrageous, but kind of a bummer it's not just a free update considering competitive cameras already have LOG profiles built in. It's supposed to be shipping this week.
The kicker is the upgrade process was super convoluted. It entailed first updating to firmware 2.3, which was just released. Then you order the upgrade key for V-LOG L, only it's not just a serial number that's emailed to you or something. It's a physical thing they send you. Then you export the serial number of your camera out to an SD card using a new function from firmware 2.3. You upload that serial number, and the software key you got from Panasonic, to their website. This will generate an activation code for you, which you then put on an SD card, stick it in your camera, and then activate the code, which then unlocks V-LOG L.
The thing is the 2.3 firmware already put V-LOG L on the camera, it is just locked behind this complicated activation process. But they fucked up. Because there is an iOS/Android app by Panasonic that lets you wirelessly monitor and control camera functions. And if you connect your camera to the app, you can use the app to scroll through your picture profiles and V-LOG L is right there. And then you can save this to a custom profile so you can easily access it without the app. And then you have V-LOG L on your camera for free, in a process that is several orders of magnitude simpler than the official upgrade procedure no less.
killertofu
Member
What websites should I be looking at to find people to hire?
My workplace is looking for a new 3d artist...
My workplace is looking for a new 3d artist...
My wife just offered up permission for me to buy the DJI Inspire.
Apparently she saw a guy in our neighborhood teaching his kid to fly the Phantom and the dad was flying the Inspire. She talked to the guy and told him I had a Phantom and Inspire as well. So, in order to not look like a liar she ordered the Inspire so the random neighbor can see me flying it, too.
She's weird, but I'll take it.
Apparently she saw a guy in our neighborhood teaching his kid to fly the Phantom and the dad was flying the Inspire. She talked to the guy and told him I had a Phantom and Inspire as well. So, in order to not look like a liar she ordered the Inspire so the random neighbor can see me flying it, too.
She's weird, but I'll take it.
the only real benefit to the big ursa is if you're really wanting to do slow-mo (big ursa goes up to 120fps at 1080 i believe), or want to be able to upgrade the turret to the 4.6 sensor at a later date. i guess it'd be useful if you're doing strictly film production work as the ursa is generally designed for multiple people to be operating it at any one time too, but even then the bulk of the big ursa is still going to be a pain when operating a handheld rig or transporting it around.I've also thought about getting the Ursa (Ursa Major? They really missed out on a cool naming opportunity
Did you see the footage released yesterday from the Ursa Mini 4k? It apparently uses an upgraded/iterated version of the 4k sensor in the Production cam, looks fantastic: https://vimeo.com/139130557#at=0
and yeah, i saw the footage and i was very impressed. someone pointed out some moire which may have been due to the very sharp lens used, as well as some fixed pattern noise, but i honestly didn't notice either until i was looking specifically for them. FPN is fairly easy to avoid, but the moire is a slight worry. it's going to be miles better than what i've already got though so i'm not going to suddenly turn away from getting the ursa mini.
i am contemplating flipping the 4k ursa mini for the 4.6 ursa mini a couple months after launch though, if there's enough of a compelling argument to swap. i read somewhere the blackmagic 2.5k cinema camera has the best filmic look and 'colour science' and that in theory the 4.6 ursa mini might match it in that regard, as well as providing the additional 2 stops of dynamic range. i'm a total stranger to blackmagic cameras so i've got no idea if that's actually a thing or not. anybody with more experience with blackmagic care to set me straight on this issue?
Sorry in advance for the bump.
I am going to be taking on the role for the first time of a 2nd AC this coming week, and I am admittedly a little nervous.
Is there a good resource online I could be directed to that could give me a thorough crash course of the position? Advice?
I am going to be taking on the role for the first time of a 2nd AC this coming week, and I am admittedly a little nervous.
Is there a good resource online I could be directed to that could give me a thorough crash course of the position? Advice?
Shooting 4k is absolutely redonkulous. Currently shooting an amazing new project with the Sony FS7 because I really wanted to try out the 4k footage. I've currently shot 400ish GB with another 100-200 GB to come. Insane. I need to buy a new external HDD for this project alone. Have yet to really see the footage on a high res or 4K screen but so far it doesn't really seem worth it.
Also shooting with the DJI Ronin and the Sony FS7 is not really great. I love the idea of the Ronin and what kind of shots you can achieve with it but man... Maybe it's because the FS7 is slightly on the heavy side and it's really big. But it's a hassle to keep setting the rig up. And I just can't keep my shoots for longer than 5-10ish seconds because it gets too heavy.
Also shooting with the DJI Ronin and the Sony FS7 is not really great. I love the idea of the Ronin and what kind of shots you can achieve with it but man... Maybe it's because the FS7 is slightly on the heavy side and it's really big. But it's a hassle to keep setting the rig up. And I just can't keep my shoots for longer than 5-10ish seconds because it gets too heavy.
Anton Sugar
Member
I'm kinda in the same boat, tbh. The form factor of the Mini sounds positively amazing, maybe enough to buy a 4k soon and flip it later.
The full review of the Ursa 4k is out. Everything sounds amazing--but I don't know how I feel about the sensor, still.
From the review:
Basically: sensor is fantastic but HAS to be exposed correctly. Given that I still mostly work in indie/low budget works, we're not always in the most ideal lighting situations or setups, nor can we afford them. 4K sensor seems to have very little latitude when it comes to this :-\
Also, sheeeeeeit at CF card prices. Fuck me. Gonna start saving...
it might be worth investing in a paglight so you've always got a way of projecting *some* light when there isn't enough to expose the image correctly. maybe even like a battery powered camping light. two of those and using whatever light occurring naturally to act as the back light. probably will need some gels to attach to the lights to get rid of that unnatural lighting look though.
if you're mainly dealing in documentary, you can get away with some less than brilliant image quality. some of the best documentaries have visual errors, because ultimately they're not really about how the material is presented, but the material itself.
i'm worried for the same reasons you are, but ultimately all it means is that i need to step my game up a bit and stop relying on the camera's native ISO to do most of the work in terms of exposing correctly. i did that so much with the canon 5d mk3. i got away with it mostly, but i lost a lot of detail to crushed blacks and some scenes were impossible to do much to in post because of how high i had to crank the ISO and how low i had to stop the aperture just to get an acceptable image.
undoubtedly the 4.6k version of the ursa mini will be akin to the second coming for low-medium budget filmmakers. it's definitely going to be worth the upgrade eventually. personally, i need a camera fairly immediately so i'm not willing to wait for the 4.6k to be readily available and all the bugs to be ironed out, so the 4k version will be an acceptable replacement for now. i just need to work a little harder out on shoots.
OrangeAtlas
Member
So I'm probably going to buy a 35mm Samyang for my DSLR, but I was thinking of getting a zoom lens to go along with it.
I'd had the 50mm f/1.8 yongnuo recommended, and I was wondering if this was fine, or if there were other alternatives.
I'd had the 50mm f/1.8 yongnuo recommended, and I was wondering if this was fine, or if there were other alternatives.
If you're wanting a zoom lens then you're gonna be disappointed buying a prime lens. If you want a prime lens, the 50 1.8 is fine, but you may find that it's tighter than what you expected.
I don't know what your expectations or goals with this camera are, but I would recommend getting a zoom lens for your first lens so you can learn how they work and have a little more flexibility with your shots.
I don't know what your expectations or goals with this camera are, but I would recommend getting a zoom lens for your first lens so you can learn how they work and have a little more flexibility with your shots.
OrangeAtlas
Member
I want to shoot short films, so I'm lookimg for a lens that'll give me the best possible image quality.
You're probably right about getting a zoom lens thoughh, do you have any recommendations (I'm willing to pay a bit more if it means a large improvement)?
I've been leaning towards the Samyang because I've heard it gives amazing picture for the price, and that's my priority at the moment.