Destiny - The Taken King |OT| Time to Explain

You're focusing on just one comment. The OT has been positive through out, let's keep it that way.

I'm enjoying the content greatly, and don't mean to bring down the party... but it's frustrating to ask questions (or see people ask questions) and get non-answers... been happening over and over in this thread.

he said so I did not nit-pick, I told him it is not on the disc. we had a lot of people who got angry because they did not know that in advance.

but sorry that I did want to help prevent him from buying something he maybe regret in the end -_-

K that's cool... I just wish his first question about where his character data exists was also answered...
 
Why on earth wouldn't they be when they're on Vanilla missions? That's how it's worked for vanilla owners when each DLC came out, for owners of the first DLC when the second came out, people who only owned the second DLC, etc.

That's a completely different point, and now we're just talking about acquisition rates. It's genuine misinformation to say something "isn't available" if it actually is, even if you don't think it's worthwhile to play the game with options locked out.
the weekly heroic it isn't available this week. That's a fact. It won't be available at least half of the time. And Nightfalls will always be beyond vanilla players even if they are old strikes
 
I'm enjoying the content greatly, and don't mean to bring down the party... but it's frustrating to ask questions (or see people ask questions) and get non-answers... been happening over and over in this thread.

Yeah, I understand. There are just a few questions I can't answer especially since I haven't played the update. Trying my best to answer them via sources (Reddit, DGAF community). Some questions I just ignore, because they sound very trollish.
 
Dreadnaught is part of Taken King. I'm not sure what the other thing is.
Sorry I meant the mission Cayde's stash. Damn auto correct.

Well it appears I may have gotten free access to The Taken King, lol. I have no idea what's going on but I haven't even bought the game yet and I have access to these missions. I've played through to the second mission on the Dreadnaught.
 
I'm really liking the changes and the new presentation. The graphics do look a bit better, too. I'm mostly in for the PVP, though, so I don't mind if the new 'campaign' is short, or the strikes lacking. Anyway, I'm back in! Would be great to play with GAF-guys ( and girls ), so maybe I'll head to the community thread.
 
Digital things do not have the same inherent value as physical. I don't need a lesson on supply and demand and markets, thanks. I took Econ too.

You can't resell digital, and it costs nothing to duplicate.
Lol you can't tell me you took Econ and bring up "inherent value" when that's the first thing you'd have learned doesn't exist.

The lack of resale possibility or whatever only affects your preference curve (basically the value you place on resale ability vs the value you give instant delivery) and does nothing to change market fundamentals. Cost and delivery method and any characteristic you can throw at the issue is only relevant insofar as it affects your perception of worth, not the inherent value since such a thing doesn't exist (outside price itself, which is where businesses estimate optimal subjective preferences will maximize profit).

But enough of this. I'll leave it at that and hope you learned something :)
 
Alright hopefully a non broken link: These came in the mail today just in time for launch

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Lé Blade Runner;178908320 said:
I'm really liking the changes and the new presentation. The graphics do look a bit better, too. I'm mostly in for the PVP, though, so I don't mind if the new 'campaign' is short, or the strikes lacking. Anyway, I'm back in! Would be great to play with GAF-guys ( and girls ), so maybe I'll head to the community thread.
Awesome! See you there.


When is it OK to shard old gear? Other than nostalgia, is there any reason to keep old raid weapons and armor or other purple gear?

Bungie has flip flop their message when it comes to old gear. For example, they said they would never upgrade the Vex, well they did. I would keep the old raid gear just incase they have a change of heart.


Alright hopefully a non broken link: These came in the mail today just in time for launch

Oh man! Now it works. Where did you buy those, I want some for the office.
 
Looks like I'll be spending the $40 on The Taken King today. I've been out of Destiny for months, and there are a ton of games I'm playing now, but all of these changes are drawing me back in.
 
Sorry I meant the mission Cayde's stash. Damn auto correct.

Well it appears I may have gotten free access to The Taken King, lol. I have no idea what's going on but I haven't even bought the game yet and I have access to these missions. I've played through to the second mission on the Dreadnaught.

Oh interesting. Unless I'm mistaken and there's some kind of sneak peak to entice vanilla players?
 
the weekly heroic it isn't available this week. That's a fact. It won't be available at least half of the time. And Nightfalls will always be beyond vanilla players even if they are old strikes
Oh, I see what you're saying, I think- the Vanguard Heroic Playlist is probably too high level? What level are Nightfalls at?

Daily Crucible (unless a TTK playslit) and Daily Heroic Story missions when they are vanilla missions should still be accessible and award legendary marks though.
 
Oh, I see what you're saying, I think- the Vanguard Heroic Playlist is probably too high level? What level are Nightfalls at?

Daily Crucible (unless a TTK playslit) and Daily Heroic Story missions when they are vanilla missions should still be accessible and award legendary marks though.

Vanguard heroic is 260 and Nightfall is 280
 
Oh, I see what you're saying, I think- the Vanguard Heroic Playlist is probably too high level? What level are Nightfalls at?

Daily Crucible (unless a TTK playslit) and Daily Heroic Story missions when they are vanilla missions should still be accessible and award legendary marks though.
yeah, were using old terminology. I forgot they axed Weekly Heroic strikes

Nightfalls and Heroic Playlist are gated at 40.
 
Apologies if this has been answered a zillion times already... Can you use an EU retail version of the game with a UK PSN account (specifically, the code that unlocks the additional content)? Normally you can use the bonus codes that come with retail games in this way, but it would be good to be sure...
 
It seems as though, that despite there not being a 'cap' on marks per week. It looks like there is a finite amount of activites you can do to earn said marks... So there is still a cap. :/
 
Well, I'm miffed. I only own the base game right now, and I booted up Destiny a few minutes ago to find some unwelcome changes. So, firstly, all the original crucible game modes have been locked out, like control and relic, because they now require the Taken King to play. This would make sense to me if it was just the new game modes introduced with the latest update, but to lock all of the game modes behind the expansion seems shifty as hell. Of course, that's not to say I can't play the crucible at all, since there are three legacy playlists (6v6, 3v3 and free-for-all) but this still means that I cannot progress with Lord Shaxx's crucible questline because it requires me to play a game of control, which I can no longer access.

The vanguard playlists seem to have been affected similarly - the only one available to me right now is a level 20 legacy playlist, which is useless to me at level 34, and especially annoying because the higher level vanguard playlists from before no longer exist - or at least can no longer be accessed without the expansion. Legendary Marks are a problem for me as well, because from what I gather they can only be gained via non-legacy vanguard playlists or the daily heroic missions, which today is a Taken King mission, and will presumably be missions from the expansion for the near future. This means I can't buy vendor gear anymore because I can't get the currency, so I can't make any meaningful improvements to my character.

There doesn't seem to be much of a reason to play right now unless you've bought the expansion. I get that there needs to be an incentive for existing players to purchase it, but gating off modes and content that I used to be able to access is just making me less inclined to do so - what if the same thing happens in a year's time? At the moment it feels like you either need to cough up £80 for all the expansions, buy the legendary edition, or just stop playing.

This is complete bullshit... A Vanilla player should be able to get just as much out of the game as anyone could a year ago...

So is being required to buy TDB and HoW before you are permitted to buy TTK... for most people, that content was forgettable. I suggested to people buy HoW and skip TDB when HoW released... I should be able to suggest the same thing for TTK.

Right so in lieu of a montly subscription typical for these sorts of games, Activision have designed something that will eventually make them money on the back end of things and this design that you're seeing is a direct result of that. Whereas before, you could easily engage in a weekly or daily, you are now locked out because you refused to opt in to the new annual subscription, which is exactly what this is (rather than monthly).

I don't feel Destiny deserves to be a game with any kind of "continual fee" behind it to keep playing content you previously payed up front to access...
 
I caved and fired it up sans expansion.

Can't really do much huh? Tons of bounties but I can't level past 34. Crappy level 20 strikes. Crappy crucible.

Guess I'll use this time to play MGS.
 
Heh seems like I'm not getting rare gear over level 26.

You cut me off not only from legendaries but also that? Well played bungie...
 
I caved and fired it up sans expansion.

Can't really do much huh? Tons of bounties but I can't level past 34. Crappy level 20 strikes. Crappy crucible.

Guess I'll use this time to play MGS.

There is way less to do than pre TTK, glad I got Destiny a month ago when I could still play some interesting end game content and get end game gear.
 
Heh seems like I'm not getting rare gear over level 26.

You cut me off not only from legendaries but also that? Well played bungie...
Do you mean required level 26, or something? What kind of attack/defense values are you seeing?
 
Quests aren't 1 per account, are they? I've just unlocked a tone after beating I think was the last mission and wondering if I should change character.
 
Do you mean required level 26, or something? What kind of attack/defense values are you seeing?

I'm a Vanilla peasant mind you.

Yep required level 26 max, from any gear or emblems I get from Crucible or missions.

Defense values max out at around Year 1 legendaries funnily enough.

I'm level 34.
 
Goddamn, just did the Sunless Cell Strike. That was fucking awesome.
Loved the fight in the dark with the room just being illuminated by thralls.
 
Goddamn this expansion is great. Veteran's Tour was surprisingly cool and Rahool gave me a good laugh. The first two story missions were excellent and the subclass mission was way cooler than I ever expected.
 
Control is really locked? That's straight up bizarre, especially if the other 3 original modes aren't...? It's like the most basic newbie mode, lol...

I haven't had the chance to login but maybe he's confusing the new control mode in TTK with the old control.

There are now two control variants, possibility the old variant is turned off for now.

Well for reference, this is what my crucible menu currently looks like:


The bottom three are the legacy playlists (6v6, 3v3, free-for-all), while the middle ones are all locked behind TTK, including salvage and control. The top three cannot be selected - if there are legacy versions of other game modes as you say, I guess this might be where they appear, but there isn't any indication of this right now. I imagine the middle icon in the top row will end up being the trials of osiris at some point.

This is my vanguard menu:


Again, bottom one is the level 20 legacy playlist, the one on the right is locked behind TTK (it's level 41). There is another icon on the left that I can't select, but it's worth noting that it also has a barely-visible TTK icon on it, so it's fair to assume that I won't be able to access that either.
 
Anyone have access to their Suros weapons yet? I have the emblem and shader, but I'm not being prompted about the weaponry. Also, I'm a bit peeved that I missed out on getting the Fixer cloak that I wanted for my Hunter. I only needed one more day of it being available, and I'd have been able to buy it. What are the chances of it popping up elsewhere? It was previously a Legendary Class Item that Cayde-6 sold. I never saw it anywhere else.
 
Question about the 17gb patch.
On PS4 is done downloaded through the "downloads" section in the same way other games download their updates -- or does the game have to be running, and has to be patched in client?
 
I'm a Vanilla peasant mind you.

Yep required level 26 max, from any gear or emblems I get from Crucible or missions.

Defense values max out at around Year 1 legendaries funnily enough.

I'm level 34.
Ah like 170, right? So that sounds about right. I think 34 and 170 Light are the pre-TTK maxes, and TTK rares being at that level is about what I've heard (the required level isn't really as much of an indicator of what it's good for as the Defense value). 34 obviously is 4 levels higher than the cap actually was at vanilla.
 
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