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SPOILER: Metal Gear Solid V Spoiler Thread | Such a lust for conclusion, T-WHHOOOO
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Xpike
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Just showing off customization for Online is my guess.
ShockingAlberto
Member
That Kojima is amused that you can cover up the "LINE" part of "ONLINE"
I wouldn't hold out any hope that anything means anything anymore.
The idea there is some huge reveal coming or meta-narrative going on is just not realistic, I'm tired of believing....
It's just Kojima having fun, like all his breakfast pictures and stuff haha
Chapter 3 Trailer #CONFIRMED
ShockingAlberto
Member
I honestly kind of don't care about MGO anymore.
I know it's a different thing from the single player but it kind of drained some hype away.
I know it's a different thing from the single player but it kind of drained some hype away.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
I think I'm done until it comes out.
NoctisVsStar
Member
Konami should let him go instead of sitting on his ass until dec
Black Hound confirmed.
I'm having so much fun with FOBs lately I think MGO3 might end up being the best thing about TPP.
Taking revenue from TPP to make Chapter 3
zero shift
Banned
That was it? I just got all of the photos for Paz and...really that's it? No cutscene showing what REALLY happened in that helicopter?
NoctisVsStar
Member
I doubt konami will break even
ShockingAlberto
Member
That cutscene happened in Ground Zeroes.
Blooddimond
Member
What really happened is what happened in GZ. The Medic/Venom's mind simply was trying to block out the guilt that he failed to find the second bomb, which caused the hallucination of the medical bay.
U find out later. Fking helicopters are were shit gets real. MG taught me that
Did you get the photograph in the hallway too? It should have a... very disturbing final scene.
There's one more photo that appears on the wall just outside her room after you get them all.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
just finished. regular ending I'm assuming.
holy shit. grey fox/decoy octopus theories kind of spoiled it for me but the presentation still shocked me. I riked it. Lol it explains why Big Boss didn't have the scars/shrapnel in MGS4.
Bailing out now to try to get the true ending. lol
holy shit. grey fox/decoy octopus theories kind of spoiled it for me but the presentation still shocked me. I riked it. Lol it explains why Big Boss didn't have the scars/shrapnel in MGS4.
Bailing out now to try to get the true ending. lol
The Dear Leader
Banned
Does anyone know were to get the City/Urban camo pattern? It appears I'm missing it.
Love Deterrence
Member
They rebuilt him from spare parts of a clone. Doing away with a few scars was not something that needed to be explained if you can rebuild whole people in this universe.
FantasticMrFoxdie... The game is over, brother...
lmao
TheBlueBomber
Member
Yeahhhhhhh don't count on that
What was ocelot plan if the gov really delivered Big Boss' corpse?
this space represents 9 years comma, and after that, BB's life and story splited into 2 ways.
deep...
this space represents 9 years comma, and after that, BB's life and story splited into 2 ways.
That's quite clever. You'd imagine it was the Metal Gear "!" mixed with "V", but it definitely works as the two big bosses thing (or two phantoms also, if you want).
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
this space represents 9 years comma, and after that, BB's life and story splited into 2 ways.
Deep
being able to make a random solider Big Boss that easily makes the entire rest of the series make no sense. Why even have clones of Big Boss if they can just hypo-thereapy someone into being Boss?
Solid and Liquid have no reason to exist anymore. At all.
Also, I never felt like I was Being "evil" and the enemy that Solid snake has to confront in later games, in Zanibar and wherever else. Big Boss, or rather the medic-as-Boss, comes off as a pretty cool and tolerant guy all things considered.
When does he turn evil? When do both Bosses turn evil? Is this transformation supposed to take place in yet another game set between the (already tight) sequence of events we've seen during this portion of the timeline?
Medic-Boss or Phantom Boss is incredibly stupid, and every moment that passes gets me more angry about it.
Solid and Liquid have no reason to exist anymore. At all.
Also, I never felt like I was Being "evil" and the enemy that Solid snake has to confront in later games, in Zanibar and wherever else. Big Boss, or rather the medic-as-Boss, comes off as a pretty cool and tolerant guy all things considered.
When does he turn evil? When do both Bosses turn evil? Is this transformation supposed to take place in yet another game set between the (already tight) sequence of events we've seen during this portion of the timeline?
Medic-Boss or Phantom Boss is incredibly stupid, and every moment that passes gets me more angry about it.
zero shift
Banned
this space represents 9 years comma, and after that, BB's life and story splited into 2 ways.
(I saw this idea in JP amazon's review)
fuck dude...
The Dear Leader
Banned
Did you listen to the tape? I thought that story was pretty good.
this space represents 9 years comma, and after that, BB's life and story splited into 2 ways.
(I saw this idea in JP amazon's review)
Kojima is a genius.
akidnamededdy
Banned
At that point wasn't Big Boss's body/vital signs/biometrics already the lynchpin in the whole Patriots AI system? If that was the case then Ocelot had to know that there was no way they were going to get the body.
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
They should have had Sins of the Father play over the final confrontation between Skullface and Snake (like, my version of it.)
I mean, imagine it playing over this:
Oh, and we should have gotten a wicked Kyle Cooper Bond-esque intro sequence with the 1980s inspired 'A Phantom Pain' track like how we had one in Snake Eater. Fill it with psychological imagery, broken mirrors, fire, blood, broken limbs, mechanical limbs, etc.
I wonder if Kojima would even read it.
I actually think the Venom twist had so much potential to be cool.
I mean, imagine it playing over this:
Oh, and we should have gotten a wicked Kyle Cooper Bond-esque intro sequence with the 1980s inspired 'A Phantom Pain' track like how we had one in Snake Eater. Fill it with psychological imagery, broken mirrors, fire, blood, broken limbs, mechanical limbs, etc.
I wonder if Kojima would even read it.
Damn. That's pretty good. It certainly has a better structure than what we got. And I like how you manage the plot twist of Venom not being Big Boss.
Now I wish this is what we got.
I actually think the Venom twist had so much potential to be cool.
I dunno, I found it to be quite poignant especially after the end revelation about who Venom was.
Amentallica
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this space represents 9 years comma, and after that, BB's life and story splited into 2 ways.
(I saw this idea in JP amazon's review)
More like
No. He even says in the last game he appears in timeline-wise, MGS4, 'You erased me two times before' when talking to Best Snake about MG1 and 2.
There's the question of how exactly BB survived MG1 and appeared in MG2. Well, it's not so much a question but reframing history to have more intrigue.
The Dear Leader
Banned
Well I mean, the fact that Big Boss was killed in MG1 and some how came back after that.
The Broken Ska Record
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NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
Maybe he considers Venom Snake a part of himself.
But this is a theme which has been consistent throughout MGS. The argument of nurture vs nature. You're not a random soldier in MGSV, you're a specific soldier who was close the Big Boss and recognized as being very talented. It's no different from how Raiden could replace Snake, and how Big Boss could replace The Boss, even though none of them are related or clones. In the end, the clones of Big Boss were the ones who were unable to replace him because they were unwilling to become him, even though they were designed for that purpose.
Solid and Liquid exist because someone wanted to experiment on the theory that cloning could make a new Big Boss, but the theory was wrong. They ended up being failed experiments which had a will of their own, and created their own destinies. That's the entire point.
There is no "evil" Big Boss. It was all a lie created by the Patriots. In MGS4 it was made pretty clear that Big Boss was made a pariah because he split from Cipher, so information was distorted to make him the villain of the world when all he was trying to do was break Cipher's control. Sure, it's a retcon, but it's a retcon from several games ago.
The marketing for MGSV was definitely deceptive though, lol.
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