Does Mario Sunshine Deserve The Hate It Gets?
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Booker.DeWitt
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Worst mario after mario 2
OrbitalBeard
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I don't think it deserves any hate, but it's definitely one of my least favorite mainline Mario entries. I still really enjoyed it though.
It's a game with the best of intentions and a lot of cool ideas on paper, but it feels half-baked and I think it's a nightmare to play.
A lot of people like it and I tried, but I just could not.
Basically.
A lot of people like it and I tried, but I just could not.
Basically.
Littlefang
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It's my favorite Mario but that's probably cause I freaking love FLUDD and the environments.
Hayama Akito
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For me is just boring, can't explain exactly why, maybe the blue coins. Also Mario losing almost all his parkour-ninja moves was a letdown to me.
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
quick answer: no, one of my favourites.
whyreggielie
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Its a really good game that felt the most open and acrobatic. Also probably the most graphically impressive alongside Galaxy, I don't see why it gets any hate as the game is great. It even had those amazing side levels with shadow Mario or whatever that was.
Maybe because it was the most story oriented and cinematic? I actually enjoyed that to, honestly its one of my favorite Mario games.
Maybe because it was the most story oriented and cinematic? I actually enjoyed that to, honestly its one of my favorite Mario games.
GloriousBagel
Banned
Hell no, best Mario ever
Shmuely Bully
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It committed a cardinal sin for a Mario game by having shitty controls.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
My controversial opinion, it's one of my favorite Mario games. Love the world and how it fits together, the vibrant colors and tropical setting, the ridiculously dumb story, and the water spraying and cleaning I actually find satisfying. Also loved the music and the side missions more than the side missions in either Mario 64 or Galaxy.
For the 3D Marios, I like Sunshine more than 64, but I like the Galaxy games a bit more than Sunshine, BUT IROnICALLY, some of my favorite Galaxy stages are Sunshine inspired.
For the 3D Marios, I like Sunshine more than 64, but I like the Galaxy games a bit more than Sunshine, BUT IROnICALLY, some of my favorite Galaxy stages are Sunshine inspired.
entremet
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It's not a terrible game by any means, but following Mario 64 shows its glaring faults.
It's a solid 6. I doest not deserve a remake, but it was a fun at that time.
My problem was that only 3 of the worlds were actually fun, the Blue Coins were a disaster, and some of the Shines were repetitive. The hub wold was amazing and one of the best.
The best thing about Sunshine is that the FLUDDless stages were the direct inspiration for Super Mario Galaxy.
It's a solid 6. I doest not deserve a remake, but it was a fun at that time.
My problem was that only 3 of the worlds were actually fun, the Blue Coins were a disaster, and some of the Shines were repetitive. The hub wold was amazing and one of the best.
The best thing about Sunshine is that the FLUDDless stages were the direct inspiration for Super Mario Galaxy.
Cheesecakebobby
Banned
It gets hate? I'd say it deserves the mild indifference it receives in comparison to other Mario titles.
I don't think too many people here think the game is bad. I've heard nothing but praise for it here. It's a very good but flawed game.
There was some Wind Waker-like skepticism around the time it came out though. The island paradise theme, FLUDD mechanic and the kiddy marketing (in the US) turned some people off from what I remember.
There was some Wind Waker-like skepticism around the time it came out though. The island paradise theme, FLUDD mechanic and the kiddy marketing (in the US) turned some people off from what I remember.
FloweryMarston
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no, one of those games that i really loved and people that i talked with really loved too then i come to neogaf and it's been shit since the beginning.
Princess Viola
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Mario 2 is fantastic, you take that back.
Also Sunshine isn't a bad game, but I do feel it's the weakest 3D Mario game.
EndlessFloydian
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A shame that an HD remaster of it is unlikely anytime soon.
It's always been a fave of mine.
It's always been a fave of mine.
thecouncil
Banned
I played this pretty recently for the first time and the controls were pretty awful (couldn't change the x- and y-axis), but it was a GREAT Mario game.
Loved flying around and shooting off like a rocket with F.L.U.D.D. Great summer game.
Didn't like the parts where they took F.L.U.D.D. away though and you had to run around giant children's blocks for some reason.
Loved flying around and shooting off like a rocket with F.L.U.D.D. Great summer game.
Didn't like the parts where they took F.L.U.D.D. away though and you had to run around giant children's blocks for some reason.
User 479360
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I bought it, let it sit and then got around to playing it a couple of years later. I couldn't get into it, though, and didn't play a ton.
I've been secretly hoping they'd remaster it for Wii U to give me an excuse to try it again.
I've been secretly hoping they'd remaster it for Wii U to give me an excuse to try it again.
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entremet
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Which one? Lost Levels or Super Mario Brothers USA?
Those are much better than Sunshine.
The weakest mainline Mario is probably the original New Super Mario Brothers on the DS. Great revival, but the game got surpassed by its sequels quick.
HyperCubed4
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People hate the most innovative 3D Mario game?
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
It was way less polished than past games and the mission/level design wasn't quite up to snuff. If this were a new IP a la Splatoon, more people would've given it a pass but as a Mario game it just wasn't as good as Mario 64, the Galaxies, 3D Land, and 3D World. If they were to remake the game, huge chunks of it would have to be redone and I don't see Nintendo putting the effort into it.
Note sure many people really 'hate' it. It's a really good game, just not as good as other Mario games and not what people wanted from Mario.
On the bright side they took the best part of the game that everyone loved (fludd-less pure platforming on abstract designs floating in space) added gravity shenanigans and called it Mario Galaxy. So all's well that ends well.
On the bright side they took the best part of the game that everyone loved (fludd-less pure platforming on abstract designs floating in space) added gravity shenanigans and called it Mario Galaxy. So all's well that ends well.
Snacks the sober sea lion
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Looks really good and plays great, but a lot of the Shines aren't much fun to acquire. And too many levels based around a gimmick like Blooper surfing, riding the roller coaster. I don't know why people hate the FLUDD so much though.
entremet
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Gamecube era wasn't great for Mario and Zelda.
Can't really blame them after OoT/MM and Mario 64 just killed it. Those were hard to follow.
SatoAilDarko
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It's a great game but probably the weakest 3D game because it made a ton of mistakes.
Honestly I don't think there is another mainline Mario game with close to number of missteps the game took.
The weird story and voicing acting, lack of location variety, camera issues and the greatest challenges in the game involved taking away the supposed main gameplay mechanic.
Honestly I don't think there is another mainline Mario game with close to number of missteps the game took.
The weird story and voicing acting, lack of location variety, camera issues and the greatest challenges in the game involved taking away the supposed main gameplay mechanic.
EndlessFloydian
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Yes, I like the album, okay?
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