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Tales Of Zestiria is coming to PS3/PS4 October 16th and PC October 20th
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why not? it has the smoothest combat and the most moving story in the series
Most moving story in the series? I will never understand this. Ludger is a character they pulled out of their asses for the sake of a sequel they didn't originally plan. Playing through the game, I kept wondering why I was supposed to care about this guy. The game's story gets praise for being more mature, but I think there's a difference between being dark for the sake of being dark and actually being well-written. Xillia 2 just came off as son try-hard edgy and grimdark to me. Characters were introduced just to be killed off later
poor alt!Milla
I really liked Elle, but I didn't like how she had to be Ludger's voice all the time. Ludger being a silent protagonist reeked of lazy writing to me. As it was easier to integrate him with the Xillia 1 cast that way. It's also hard to care for any of the new characters
when pretty much all of them are dead by the end of the game
I still don't get the logic behind that...
A very old friend of mine in my country heard that voice too long ago, she didn't end well but her fight was worthwhile, I still meet her from time to time.
Waw ok, I hope that the next step is not gonna be about me being homophobic? Please don't try to judge my values based on a few posts about a game you apparently didn't even play.
I'm not opposed to the idea at all btw (and I'm aware of most of the said "proofs"), you're just using a very poor way to defend what is your opinion on this matter.
It was fun while it lasted but I'm gonna stop here, can't argue with facts and God after all.
"Word of God" is a term used for describing information specifically from game's staff.
Unlike you, I've done my research. Between developer comments, the blatantly romantic scenes and skits, how the two are written together like practically ever other romance in the Tales series, it's fairly obvious to anyone who's paying attention. It genuinely does not matter what you think.
Why the spoilers tho?
WickedLaharl
Member
Tales of Zestiria is up on amazon to preorder for PS4
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00X8WTMKQ/?tag=neogaf0e-20
guess extra frames = pay me more
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00X8WTMKQ/?tag=neogaf0e-20
guess extra frames = pay me more
footfunghi
Member
Do we know what they are going to price it at on PC? There's no price yet on the Steam listing.not on pc
No, not yet.
Price doesn't bother me at all (will be buying at BB though). Really hope they put out a Collector's Edition for NA. I've got Xillia, Xillia 2, and Symponia Chronicles CEs and I never want to miss another Tales CE.
RPGCrazied
Member
Still no CE announcement? Even though XIllia 2 CE was a bit too pricey for me.
PC as well? Well, that gives me one more reason to hold off on a PS4.
As long as it's not locked at 30 fps or some kinda nonsense I'd imagine it's pretty hard to screw up this port.
Yup.
As long as it's not locked at 30 fps or some kinda nonsense I'd imagine it's pretty hard to screw up this port.
Yup.
TheSadRanger
Banned
The tier 3 pre-order bonus has been moving like a snail for the past few months on steam
I'm starting to wonder if it's going to be able to reach it's goal so we can get Symphonia for free if we pre ordered it.
With only two months left and ton of other stuff releasing soon I'm not to hopeful :/
I'm starting to wonder if it's going to be able to reach it's goal so we can get Symphonia for free if we pre ordered it.
With only two months left and ton of other stuff releasing soon I'm not to hopeful :/
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
I preordered the digital version on Amazon not too long ago.
The tier 3 pre-order bonus has been moving like a snail for the past few months on steam
I'm starting to wonder if it's going to be able to reach it's goal so we can get Symphonia for free if we pre ordered it.
With only two months left and ton of other stuff releasing soon I'm not to hopeful :/
We have 2 months. It'll probably get another push once it's almost out. I can't think of a pre-purchase reward that didn't make it before.
1080p/30fps on PS4
upto 4k/30fps on PC
better draw-distance, AA, shadows, etc.
http://blog.talesofgame.com/en/tales-of-zestiria-reveals-its-pc-specs-ps4-info/
upto 4k/30fps on PC
better draw-distance, AA, shadows, etc.
http://blog.talesofgame.com/en/tales-of-zestiria-reveals-its-pc-specs-ps4-info/
Hero Prinny
Member
damn not even 60fps on pc tho? :/
Basileus777
Member
Animation is likely tied to the framerate and thus would cause issues without a lot of reworking and likely a big delay that would piss fans off even more. Damned if they do, damned if they don't.
They didn't lie though or wait and hope no one notices so they should get some credit for that
Uh oh.
So framerate that difficult to untangle, eh?
Somehow I'm a bit doubtful. I feel like they didn't want to allocate the resources to an external company to take the time to unlock the framerate.
They were most likely using an external company as the Tales team would be too busy working on the next Tales of title to deal with porting this.
Wasn't Tales of Symphonia 60fps?
Basileus777
Member
Only the original Gamecube version. But that's a different game on a different engine made a decade earlier.
I think it was a mix of 30 and 60 because the HD version was based off the PS2 version which wasn't as good as the GC version (correct me if I'm wrong?)
Solid 30 and far better draw distance ftw
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
RE: framerate being tied to animations, Naruto UNS3 had a similar issue on PC. Not even modding could fix that, as I recall
So basically shitty programming like in Dark Souls II, where unlocking the framerate messes up mechanics.
I hate to say it, but I guess I might be skipping over this port. Hopefully they don't use that same excuse for the Tales of Symphonia port.
Fluid combat systems likes Tales' are an absolute travesty to play in 30 fps.
I hate to say it, but I guess I might be skipping over this port. Hopefully they don't use that same excuse for the Tales of Symphonia port.
Fluid combat systems likes Tales' are an absolute travesty to play in 30 fps.
Basileus777
Member
That's exactly what they said.
A little disappointed but as long as it doesn't dip below 30 I'm fine. I want to see what a tales game looks like at high visual fidelity settings on my PC.
Any news on if the preorder numbers met namco's demand and we're gonna get symphonia for free?
and everything else would also be affected because of it ie double the amount of hits due to double the framerate leading to the game being too easy and unbalanced.
All of this is tied to animation which is mentioned there.
Basileus777
Member
Cornbread78
Member
Why is this still not up for pre-order on PSN?
and everything else would also be affected because of it ie double the amount of hits due to double the framerate leading to the game being too easy and unbalanced.
All of this is tied to animation which is mentioned there.
I guess you can caught it that way, but on first glance its seem sugarcoating the technical detail.
DR2K
Banned
60fps or give me death gaf incoming...
Yeah it's a problem with devs that don't do PC games or multiple platforms of differing power. They tie all sorts of things to frame rate for timing. When it gets ported later the team figures out they can't change it because it breaks all types of things. Hopefully with them doing a PC port once and the recent remasters they fix that and make the game code frame rate agnostic
It's not a shitty answer, it's exactly what is fucking happening.
I don't obsess about fps like other people do, but this is 1 of the few times that it sounds like a reasonable explanation.