I hope it's just them. Loved the chemistry.
Persona 5 TGS trailer
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I hope it's just them. Loved the chemistry.
I take it you don't know who Fukuyama is.
To answer your question, yes. I would take subtitles over a dub, especially knowing some of the Japanese VAs.
I thought lots of people love code geass.
EscapeArtist
Banned
To each his own, I just think it's odd someone would prefer what is basically gibberish to them over a language they understand.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
I would rather listen to whichever has the better quality acting. Persona generally gets good dubs, but if it ends up being poo by some crazy travesty, I'd rather listen to the Japanese.
Trigonometrize.
Member
The true deal breaker for me are the honorfics in Atlus dubs. It sounds so wrong. If Atlus wants to pretend so hard they're keeping the culture in tact why not just gives us the Japanese?
Judging by the party dynamic so far, I don't think we'll be hearing too many honourifics among them.
Just listen to this comparison and you can easily tell the difference:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6JzQbEyOb0
I'm sure the Persona dub will be fine or whatever but yea I wish they would just do dual audio. I'm more than willing to pay extra for a series that matters to me.
EscapeArtist
Banned
I've tried so many times to watch that, something about the art...I just can't get in to it.
BlackNova224
Neo Member
Every game needs an Arc Rise Fantasia option.
Oublieux
Member
I think your wording comes off a bit patronizing, but I don't think it was intentional. I actually also firmly fall in the camp of usually preferring subtitles with the original voice acting (in this case, Japanese). It's "gibberish" but my reasoning follows the same logic as to why I prefer subtitles in foreign films and animation over dubs: the cast is how the original director envisioned representing the characters. Those actors and actresses were selected for their particular talents, but most importantly, their emotive line delivery is how the director intended it to be.
This isn't a knock on dubbing. Dubbing can be very good but, in the end, it uses assumptions and best guesses to translate the original director's intentions. I want to play the game (or watch a film/show) as it was originally intended. That is my personal reasoning.
Morgana's Persona looks like Zorro. He even does a Z flick with his rapier thing. See here:
He steals stuff too. Mainly from rich assholes. Like a brown Sword Wielding Robin Hood.
Zorro is a licensing mess. Know what's in the public domain though? Puss in Boots.
BlackNova224
Neo Member
Is the original director not involved in the dub selection process? Do they not oversee translation and the voice recordings?
Probably depends on the project but unless they themselves are fluent in the language they're dubbing, there are bound to be variations.
BlackNova224
Neo Member
Now you can't use the excuse of "it goes against the director's vision.". I respect one's preference and decisions, but it's always good to stay on solid ground ^^. Especially when it comes to critique.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Lol, why not? Namba isn't the director.
Oublieux
Member
Yes, of course the game attempts to stick as close to the original vision as possible but there are bound to be interpretations due to pure language and cultural differences. I may have not stressed it, but my primary draw for subtitles is that I prefer the original intonation and tone of line delivery.
This is a bit off-topic discussion since it's more about subtitles and dub differences, but bringing it back to this thread... I am so stoked for Persona 5 regardless. Basically giddy despite the delay. I can wait out the extra few months no problem.
Yu Namba is not only not the voice/game director of the Japanese version, but is a native American who has no immediate involvement with Atlus Japan's development process. He's just of Japanese descent and fluent in the language.
Granted, he is heavily involved with the recording process for pretty much all of Atlus USA's dubs, but from all accounts I've seen, neither Hashino nor the typical Japanese performance directors, Akiko Kitazawa and Kiyohito Nozoe, so much as touch the dub.
EscapeArtist
Banned
Not attempting to sound "superior" or, "patronizing" as you said...I mean I know there are loads of people that prefer subbed anime to dubbed, even if the dub is good (Cowboy Bebop etc). I guess I've just never understood it. Obviously if the dub is like straight out of the 80s dubbed anime terrible then yeah, I would absolutely rather just get a subtitles version...but it hasn't been that way in quite a while, there are very few sub-standard English dubs of Japanese games anymore.
KimonoNoNo
Member
He's in Japan for TGS. I'm sure he could find better things to do with his time.
Modest Mauser
Member
What would be the motivation for reverse importing?
Better than wasting his time on GAF? I find that hard to believe.
Possible new game announcements. They might also play the game live.
From my website:
Obviously, we don't know what it will entail. There would be no point in building up to it, otherwise.
Previous games are amazing and they've aged nicely. Try them out if you like 5.
ColossalLazy
Member
I think they will play Persona 5 main theme with the new vocalist.
Ehhh, I don't know about invoking something Sentai did in a discussion about how Atlus approaches things. The two aren't related past Atlus owning the IP.
Sentai licensed that series and everything that happened with it afterward is on them. It says nothing about Atlus or Atlus USA in the slightest.
It's often cheaper to import a copy of a blu-ray from America than it is to buy locally in Japan. A big reason for that is because the animation companies typically charge more of a premium to offset the limited appeal and limited sales potential inherit to a niche product, a practice which largely doesn't carry overseas, with the exception of Aniplex. Games are also subject to this it's the reason why Arena was region-locked and why Ultimax only had dual audio when fighting and not in the story mode.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
Yep, same.
ULTROS!
People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
What months belong to Summer 2016?
Also I'll be in the minority here but: Star Ocean 5 > FFXV > Persona 5 TGS trailers.
You know what's great about SO5? It's beautiful (in terms of sceneries) and it's coming out less than a year after it was announced.
Also I'll be in the minority here but: Star Ocean 5 > FFXV > Persona 5 TGS trailers.
You know what's great about SO5? It's beautiful (in terms of sceneries) and it's coming out less than a year after it was announced.
cj_iwakura
Member
Atlus aren't even consistent with honorifics, SMTIV and Soul Hackers don't have them(thank god). Either go all or nothing, and I prefer nothing.
What months belong to Summer 2016?
Also I'll be in the minority here but: Star Ocean 5 > FFXV > Persona 5 TGS trailers.
Joke post? The game logo sequence alone is better than those.
They are consistent in that Persona's the only series that has them.
Makoto Yuki
Banned
What months belong to Summer 2016?
Also I'll be in the minority here but: Star Ocean 5 > FFXV > Persona 5 TGS trailers.
You know what's great about SO5? It's beautiful (in terms of sceneries) and it's coming out less than a year after it was announced.
Gotta say, seeing as how SO5 battles take place on the world map, I'm definitely more excited for it.
cj_iwakura
Member
I don't get why it's a translation thing they only apply to Persona. If we're at all lucky, the trend will die with P4.
StarSketch
Banned
He actually shows up in the credits for the Japanese versions sometimes as well, but then again that might be an entirely different person.
Edit: I looked at the JP credits for P4 and he's apparently listed for lyrics writing?
Perfect Cha0s
Member
Even the in-game camera turns have style!
But yeah, I really dig both of the new pieces of music we got in the staff video. Sets a nice chill atmosphere.
I always liked it. *shrug*