Phil Spencer Discusses Why FFXIV Isn't on Xbox (Contradictions?)
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Phil, when it comes down to it I feel like Xbox has every right to want to keep Xbox with Xbox if that's what you want to do. It's your business to run, it's your service, it's your product. If you feel it's right by you, and the consumer doesn't mind or is likes the same idea, that's 100% fine. Do your thang, make the best Xbox Live community you think you can make. But don't go blaming not getting in on Final Fantasy XIV on fake backroom third-party deals when you yourself acquired Rise of the Tomb Raider through the same means you smack talk today.
I know that since third-party options are running light and so you are building more first-party efforts, and that is the best thing to do. It'll help strengthen the brand and the base of the Xbox consumer. It adds value and will be a big boon down the road when people are looking for a cheap system and know that the Xbox One has a shitton of great exclusives. But don't get all high and mighty when the last 10 years of Xbox has been focused on securing as many third-party deals as possible and now you can't rely on them as much.
You're better than that.
YOU STAY OUT OF THIS, SOLAIRE.
I know that since third-party options are running light and so you are building more first-party efforts, and that is the best thing to do. It'll help strengthen the brand and the base of the Xbox consumer. It adds value and will be a big boon down the road when people are looking for a cheap system and know that the Xbox One has a shitton of great exclusives. But don't get all high and mighty when the last 10 years of Xbox has been focused on securing as many third-party deals as possible and now you can't rely on them as much.
You're better than that.
YOU STAY OUT OF THIS, SOLAIRE.
Solaire of Astora
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Ign? That's not really their M.O, is it? They don't have the balls to kick the Hornet's nest and do some hard hitting "games journalism".
Damn, I loled.
Y'know, Yoshida is a fairly common name.
This should have been the first and last post.
I understand about PR spin and accept it, but this goes beyond PR spin. PR spin does not involve out-and-out lying and subtly back-handing two other companies
HeWhoWalks
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HeWhoWalks
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Indeed. Never really been a big fan of the guy. I get that he's "PR", it doesn't mean I have to LIKE what he's about.
NavyPharaoh
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Ryan was asking Phil the questions since it's for unlocked & we all know how what color his tighty whitey's are.
Seriously, if you want Phil to come back for another interview to increase your clicks, what good does it do you to upset him?
They had a port begging segment on unlocked this week but wasn't FF14 announced as an exclusive? So y would they expect it to come to Xbox?
Same. I don't think this is a case of Sony transferring large sums of money to Square Enix. Wasn't FF11 really popular on 360?
Phil Spencer said:
alexandros
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Let me play devil's advocat and say it's (not very, but still) possible he's being honest (about not liking third-party exclusives, not about FFXIV). He may actually not like the practice of third-party exclusivity deals but he obviously believes they are necessary based on the Tomb Raider deal. The console audience sadly places a huge emphasis on exclusive content so anyone in Spencer's place would feel obliged to secure such deals even if he personally disagrees with them.
The Mad Draklor
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Yeah, I find Phil's statements to be hypocritical, especially in context with ROTR. I know it's PR, but statements from Yoshida and SE point towards the conclusion that it was MS's cross-platform policy that prevented FFXIV from going on the XBO.
Off topic:
I think I finally figured it out!!
Iwata was kinda cool but Nintendo feels to much "we decide what's fun" and how we're supposed to enjoy it.
Mattrick Spencer to much of a PR guy. Not a speck of dust.
Yoshida(Shu-san) is just a big kid and so am I.
But hey things can change. I was for the longest time pissed at Moore even though I know he didn't kill Shenmue and I understand why it died on Xbox instead of giving it a real try on PS2. That kickstarter kinda put the nail in my stupidity.
I think I finally figured it out!!
for me that is.
Iwata was kinda cool but Nintendo feels to much "we decide what's fun" and how we're supposed to enjoy it.
Yoshida(Shu-san) is just a big kid and so am I.
But hey things can change. I was for the longest time pissed at Moore even though I know he didn't kill Shenmue and I understand why it died on Xbox instead of giving it a real try on PS2. That kickstarter kinda put the nail in my stupidity.
Shu isn't just stumbling into being the "gamers gamer", trust me. He knows that being a personality in this industry is one of the best things you can do.
I'm not saying he doesn't care about gaming and only cares about business, but he's not stupid. He knows he can do both.
Except yosp passion for games is truly genuine. Just look at how many hours he spends getting platinuming games (Dude's pretty boss at Bloodborne too). It's really easy to spot bullshit in this industry. People like Boyes and Shu are gamers at heart. It's not just about wearing indie game shirts.
Oh, please.
He's been catty about this third party shit for a while now, and this misleading nonsense of an answer only makes it worse. Conveniently, it started as soon as their position of strength in the market decreased.
This is the guy that defended the parity clause and started the "first class" thing.
There's saying you don't like third party exclusivity for PR reasons, and then there's misleading in an interview suggesting the other guys have a deal -- when the truth is that the game is not on their platform because of their *own* walled garden nonsense.
True enough
all of them are trained by PR.Ohh I forgot to mention that I love Shibata as well.
I'm not saying he isn't a gamer at heart, trust me I really like Shu.
But he knows he can use his personality to gain sway in this industry. He was built for this kind of job.
Well i always see Spencer playing xbox, most of the time Destiny, but also a lot of indie games.
I feel like Spencer really loves games as well, but when I personally first started noticing him, it was less him advocating for indie games and instead just wearing shirts and saying things Mattrick wanted said.
I hadn't heard a single thing from him that he wanted to say until he became President. Him wearing an indie game shirt, then changing it mid show to another indie game shirt felt forced.
Today I have a better idea of him. He's a gamer, but he's got a rough job.
LMAO, this thread is killing me.
I can't believe I sat through this garbage. How did it get so many views?
Wow, this guy is full of shit. First he says that third party exclusives have nothing to do with market share, then he acts like Xbox has never taken a third party exclusive before when they have taken several (one releasing in a few months) and let's not forget the odd behaviour around indie games. Now he is straight up lying about FFXIV? Man, I don't like him at all.
It was brought up again a little over a month ago when Dual shockers asked him if anything had changed now that MS is pushing W10 & XBO crossplay.
Shpeshal Nick
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But wasn't 11 on 360 cross play? Mind you, that was back when Microsoft was really really tight about that sort of stuff, so I'd be surprised if the new Microsoft Anywhere approach had an issue with cross play in a franchise that already had it previously on the platform.
Yeah, the same article where Square was asked about a NX port, and Yoshida answered they need first to see when it releases and how's the cross-play policy.
In the meanwhile, we've had titles on Nintendo consoles with cross-platform multiplayer with PC/iOS/Android, DQX announced for PS4 (and NX), and Dreii, an indie puzzle game stating how one of its major features is allowing all users to play together, and the game's coming to PC/iOS/Android/Wii U/PS4/Vita.
It's also true that, seemingly, a game coming out on PS4 and Wii U will allow for stages sharing, and that involves the already released Xbox One/PC versions, so that theorically is a start. I can't remember the name of the game right now, though.
SnakeLinkSonic
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Today the uninitiated learn @yosp and Yoshi-P are two entirely separate people. The latter said the game is ready to roll for XBO over a year ago as soon as Microsoft gives the go ahead.
seventynine
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LegendofDragoonLives
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The bullshit level is pretty high here.
Phil's gonna swear off touring and start making weird studio albums now.
STOP MAKING FUN OF MY AILMENTS!!!
seventynine
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Sgt. Cuphead's Lonely Hearts Club Band, the Green Album, Belowver? The man needs a guru though, someone eastern, wise...
Paracelsus
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Iirc someone who already posted in here said they had the upper hand at one point (aka 360-PC) but the conditions they set were bad (like gold-only and a piece of the subs pie), so they jumped ship, and then dropped the ball because the cross-platform thing worked like a free exclusivity deal for Sony.
Phil Spencer said:
I find this quite amusing in light of the actual reason it is not on XB1 along with the reality that one of the major titles in their "best lineup in the history of Xbox" is the purchased timed exclusive Rise of the Tomb Raider.
Phil continues being the king of telling everyone what they want to hear. It just so happens it's laced with heavy dose of irony here. I look forward to the day when I never have to hear the words "Phil Spencer said" ever again. His words have shown him time and again to be a giant PR sleezebag.
GreatestHits
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Microsoft
....still full of shit
This gen has been a den of unabashed lies for them. You know they are still holding onto that online only plan.... just waiting for the right time to roll it out... LMAO
....still full of shit
This gen has been a den of unabashed lies for them. You know they are still holding onto that online only plan.... just waiting for the right time to roll it out... LMAO
Of course they are. Because online only will happen at some point, for all consoles. Just not at near future.
Cthulhu_Steev
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From jock to victim. I bet Phil has been watching The Breakfast Club on repeat.
I feel like digital only is a certain, while online-only is more fear mongering at times.
I mean, on PC it's not like when you download games you can only play them when your online. while Steam Offline can be an issue at times, it still works. Consoles are moving towards a more digital future for sure, but I don't think we'll have to be online at all times to play games for a long time.
I respectfully disagree. The only reason I keep a keyboard nearby when I play is for chat, not for actual playing. Controller works really good.
Spoken like someone who hasn't played FFXIV on a console controller.
GreatestHits
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I mean they already got the servers ready, they just need to press a button.
And more on topic, I think it would be news if Phil Spencer said something honest, or correct. Has that ever happened?
I don't think online only will be a big deal at all when we eventually get the internet infrastructure working everywhere.
reptilescorpio
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Lol honest Phil
He answered the question with a non-answer blaming Sony for doing a third party deal.
How is that not a lie?
Shining Sunshine
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The Phil Spencer Theme Song
GinoFelino
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Let's be real.
Dude probably just didn't know what game they were referring to, and thought it was one of those thirdparty deals going on.
I honestly think he just didn't remember the exact reason for that particular game not being on Xbox. I'm guessing he has things to think about other than remembering the exact reason for every game ever made coming/not coming to Xbox. FF14 is an old game very few people are still rooting for to come to Xbox. No reason to lie about anything, so it's probably just a mix-up on his end. Nothing to see here.
Dude probably just didn't know what game they were referring to, and thought it was one of those thirdparty deals going on.
I honestly think he just didn't remember the exact reason for that particular game not being on Xbox. I'm guessing he has things to think about other than remembering the exact reason for every game ever made coming/not coming to Xbox. FF14 is an old game very few people are still rooting for to come to Xbox. No reason to lie about anything, so it's probably just a mix-up on his end. Nothing to see here.