Not sure if I agree with their decision to make the text sideways.
Star Ocean 5 screens and character art
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Not sure if I agree with their decision to make the text sideways.
Best if you quote the images to make them smaller. It also looks like the childhood friend has a rune on her leg, or am I seeing something else?
Edit: Looking at the concept art, it looks like it's some kind of leg brace actually.
Daredevil7
Banned
If it has fan service then I'm all in. 
Yeah, it may be a serious issue during actual combat. Hopefully they will change before February.
Looks readable enough to me...
LowParry
Member
Readable, yes. Distracting, quite. It's just strange to see.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Omg yes! So much this plz get it out now!
Has this ever been a problem before? As far as I can tell, most would get swept up talking about the quests, story, and whatever else.
HerroRygar
Member
That outfit is just beyond stupid though, why even wear clothes? It is such blatant pandering to teenage boys that I would be embarrassed to be caught playing this game.
LowParry
Member
Please. For the love of God, no.
If you go by MGS5's reaction with Quiet to what we have now in terms of what gets talked about, SO5 should be fine.
threelights
Member
Considering there are 5 bars filled, it's probably just related to that. Not really hard to see how much it indicates.
SP and Fol are always at 0 though, I wonder how you raise those.
Would suck to be you.
Technically no one shown is an Earth human. Or so they claim, at least.
That there's one female character some people find completely ridiculous only serves to exacerbate why they see it that way, rather than mitigate it.
SolidSnakex
Member
AKIMAN is in his 50's, and i'm pretty sure he designed her for himself if you've ever seen his Twitter. His Twitter acount basically revolves around three types of tweets and retweets. Gravure models, art that's in line with Fiore (the witch), and action figures. I'll never understand this concept that a sexy character is only targeted toward teenage boys.
It's similar to the other games...
...though SO3 does have the percentage read normally (there's only one number though). I think they just did it this way so they don't have a bunch of numbers jutting out from the side of the bar to save space. They could make the "9 Hits" and "Long" smaller though.
Anyway all you have to know is that SP is at the bottom, FOL is at the middle, EXP is at the top. The percentages are read from bottom to top. IDK, there's nothing very complicated going on that would make it very distracting after a little play.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
Proof that gaming needs more witch hats.
LowParry
Member
I don't see it being a big deal. I completely forgot it's like that with previous games too. See? Everything is fine.
It's the SO3/SO4 bonus board thing and a Tales-style super attack gauge sorta rolled into one.
You get the bonuses based on the kind of attacks and actions you make. You can also fill the gauge to perform a special attack (Fidel's appears to be Ethereal Blast).
OmegaDL50
Member
Remember there is a SO3 Welch who wasn't annoying. Welch wasn't just in SO4.
And since SO5 is supposedly taking more after SO3, hopefully that version of Welch returns instead of her SO4 incarnation.
Welch was pretty cool in S03 in my opinion. Though her incarnation of SO4 didn't bother me either.
threelights
Member
I'm not really defending the vertical text either. Just saying that if you want to see how many exp bonus you have shouldn't be too difficult...
Did they actually explain it would be similar though?
idk, it looks different =X
I guess it's just been too long since I last played SO3.
sensui-tomo
Member
She also appeared in the psp remakes/ports of SO1/2(whatever its called)
Hexa
Member
I still think it's strange. Text is normally read top to bottom when reading so it feels off to me. Plus the text seems smaller to me compared to previous games so that amplifies the issue. I essentially just want them to flip it.
Etheral Blast is only a special attack? Hmm well I like the attack in SO3, but it's a little slow to use in some fights, so if the special attacks are useful then this seems like a decent change.
Also this seems to be Air Raid (or something similar)?
Going by the characters' HP and MP, it seems like you might get it early? Would be cool since it's one of my favorites from SO3, but you get it late.
OmegaDL50
Member
The Bonus Gauge done the same way in SO3 and SO4 too with the vertical text
I don't think SO5's bonus gauge won't be that difficult to read since the SO3 and SO4 bonus gauges weren't difficult either. Of course this just my take on it.
threelights
Member
"Vertical Air Raid".
Looks like it. Is there a horizontal one? =P
Also, Ethereal Blast has "Special Attack" over it, which is the same as Air Raid. Maybe it's not his super.
sensui-tomo
Member
On a side note, anyone have the threads to SO4's reveal, want to see if there was a bigger outrage for the cat loli than there is for the witch design.(since the catgirl has that bad revealing outfit with a distinct feature) Witch design beats that cat girl easily.. I like lewd stuff but that was about it for me.
Well they didn't explicitly state which actions give which bonuses, just that certain actions like guarding from weak attacks or building up a combo will fill it. The gauge can apparently be filled with all three, so that one shot has it fully filled with EXP stuff so you get a 500% EXP bonus, but one shot from the magazine has it slightly filled with 2% EXP, 15% Fol, 12% SP.
The yellow bar and the number seems to be your "Reserve Rush" stock, which are for the super attacks.
Fidel seems to have a lot (at this rate maybe even all) of Fayt's moves. From what I've seen he has Side Kick, Air Raid, and Ethereal Blast. And yeah Ethereal Blast might not be his super attack, it's just that they had that screen shot there in the part of the magazine page where they explained it.
threelights
Member
Yeah, I started to pay attention there. Depending on the bonus there is a different color filling the bar. But it's no proportional at all lol, I thought it would be like 100% = 1 bar, but it's like: 49% exp = barely anything.
It's really weird.
hosannainexcelsis
Member
Considering most of the people complaining are saying they aren't going to buy the game, there shouldn't be much to worry about in the actual OT.
OmegaDL50
Member
Going to fun trying to maintain a maxed out bonus gauge like in SO3, knowing that a critical hit landed on your currently controlled character will shatter the whole thing and you need to start over build it up again.
I wonder if the multipliers will come back again...like if you keep your bonus gauge for 10 battles without it being broken you get a 2x bonus effect, and 50 battles it goes to x3 up to a max of x5.
500% x5 seems kind of overkill, but considering the max level in a Star Ocean game is 255, and with item creation it's possible to make level up gear that gives you like 400% exp growth stacked with a full bonus gauge.
They could easily balance it out by needing to split the exp pool 8 ways since you now have your entire character cast as combat characters instead of the previous games which were limited to just 3 or 4 member teams. so 100 / 8 characters means a 100 exp enemy only gives everyone 12.5 exp a piece. This only implies IF they do it this way.
sensui-tomo
Member
Thanks, time to check if there was any issue for the catgirl at launch (which i hope we can all agree is a worse design than this witch by any stretch, because i'd love to see people defend Catgirl with labia(i think thats the right term) especially when the character is supposed to be young. ( i get that one of the devs on the project wanted to make eroge... but damn was i not fine with SO4 for the most part... except gameplay)
it's from 2009, before gaf was the way it is now, so i doubt you'll find much
threelights
Member
Oh boy, 2500% exp bonus, why not? lol
Maybe instead of splitting the exp itself (which then would make it harder to balance for people who can't keep the gauge up) they could split only the extra. That would end with 312.5% extra to each character on a full party (or 357% if there's only 7 characters).
Although, looking at previous games, I don't think they are too fond of balancing =P
Still. It will be pretty fun keeping the gauge full in-between battles.
Dark_castle
Junior Member
Once you hear the reason she dressed like that, you will be ashamed of your words and deeds.
Xion_Stellar
People should stop referencing data that makes me feel uncomfortable because games get ported to platforms I don't like
OmegaDL50
Member
In previous games it was easy to make weapons that give 800% EXP on top of 150% Maxed bonus board for a total of 950% bonus exp. Again you only had 4 characters to a team and not 8.
So 2500% exp bonus shared between 8 characters with experienced divided isn't much worse compared to 950% bonus shared between four. The game clock would still easily hit the 140 hour mark by the time you reach 255, so even with the insane exp gains you really aren't rushing through the game.
They even rebalanced some items in the PS3 port of SO4 so the exp gain tricks aren't not nearly as effective too.
Get it all out now while you can guys. I mean it's not like this isn't the 4th or 5th Star Ocean thread in which a majority of the discussion was focused on...this one character.
Unless of course you actually LIKE talking about Fiore? Hehe.
threelights
Member
Yeah, but then it's what I said there. They would have to find a way to balance the main story itself to make it so that no one becomes horribly overleveled by being good at the game.
iirc those items in previous games couldn't be made so early on. Something that gives 2500% exp from moment 1 in the game would mean that good players are just going to breeze through everything or that not-so-good people would struggle and have to grind.
OmegaDL50
Member
Even at level 255 the Ethereal Queen, Lenneth, or even Freya bosses on Universe difficulty would destroy you without being careful and timing your specials carefully, due to that Anti-Attack Aura having returning all damage to the attacking character.
Star Ocean 4 wasn't much better either since it turned most of the post game bosses into HP sponges when Universe seemingly tripled their HP values, so instead dealing with a boss that had 40 Million HP, they had 120 Million and it turned into a one-hit kill fest with you feeding revival items to your AI partners as meat shields while the player controlled character did a majority of the damage dealing.
I can't imagine what sort of chaos Star Ocean 5 will bring with 7 or 8 characters in battle all at once at the same time.
FYI there are 7 party members not 8.
OmegaDL50
Member
Well it could very well be 8 or more...and they just didn't reveal the character yet. I mean traditionally dating back even the first Star Ocean the entire team you could recruit was comprised of 8 characters total, same for SO2, 3, and 4.
Also there is factoring alternative characters joining. Like in SO3 choosing between Nel, Albel, Peppita, and Roger. Just the same Star Ocean 2 you could choose between Celine, Ashton, Dias, Opera, Ernest, Precis and Bowman, and whoever else I'm forgetting.
I mean they could just be showing off currently 7 but later on you could possibly have a max of 8 like the previous games as well as being able to alternatively recruit different characters based on Private Action responses. I'd expect tri-Ace to keep some things a secret at least.
SatelliteOfLove
Member
If it just wasn't so damn two-dimensional yeah. In fact, most everything 3 did in combat would be aces if they weren't so damn two-dimensional. You either broke it or were miserable following rules that the game didn't really function under.
SO5 to have a Hell level?!?
threelights
Member
Hmm. I guess...
I didn't play SO4, but that sounds rough =X
I also wonder what they'll do with 7/8 characters now. There's so much they could do (or not, considering hardware limitations...)