Is there anything within the gaming sphere you refuse to support on principal?

Labadal

Member
I don't buy anything that forces me to use uPlay.

I even have an Origin account, but uPlay rubs me the wrong way and I will never use it.
 

seat

Member
Amiibo/Skylanders/Disney Infinity.

I shouldn't have to buy pladtic trinkets to unlock content already on the disc. Can't wait for this fad to die a miserable death.
 

PooBone

Member
Anything Orson Scott Card gets a paycheck for. The Gamergate douche who made The Vanishing of Ethan Carter. And I'm about to stop giving money to Activision. Just look what they did to Bungie, my former favorite developer.

EDIT: And oh yeah, Amiibos.
 

Woffls

Member
Nah, if something compels me enough, then that's all I need. I might have a strong inclination to avoid certain things, but I still make a judgement every time.
 

Steroyd

Member
Almost nothing.

Say what I want about many of the wrong practices of AAA devs, but none of the wrong things they've done are terrible on a conceptual level, it's the implementation by said publishers that makes me sick of the shit.
 

Olly88

Member
Never bought a digital game, DLC, season pass, micro-transaction etc... anything like that. Luckily I have no interest in them anyway.
 

Demoskinos

Member
Nothing really. If a product looks worth my money I buy it. If its not worth my money I don't. Don't have any real crusades to fight.
 

MrBadger

Member
I'm a man with simple priorities. I'll buy whatever if I think it's worth the asking price.

But I will never star an "automatic Mario" level in Super Mario Maker.
 

Regiruler

Member
-Something that tries to make a political statement when it's not integrated into the story ass a whole. Metal Gear, as a series, is fine, since political themes are integral to the story and writing.
-Third Party social network integration. Steam Communities and Miiverse get a pass because you don't need an external account.
-Paying for anything luck-based in a non F2P game (and even then, the F2P games I will actually do this in boil down to mostly TF2, where I've only done it 3-4 times)
 

spekkeh

Banned
Free to play. I think the devaluation and subsequent necessary monetization of games is destroying our hobby. I'm not going to take part in it. I even made it a thing not to download the free game in the first place.

I know I'm not going to effect any change, or at best delay the inevitable downfall, but at least my conscience is clear.

Also any non story microtransaction in other games.
 
  • I don't pre-order (with one or two exceptions)
  • I don't buy Early Access games
  • I don't support the Green Light process
  • I don't purchase Season Passes or "Deluxe" versions of games

So basically I do (or don't do) those things that everyone doesn't do.
 
Boycott or outrage/agenda movements around certain games, games-related people and/or companies. To be honest I really just do not give a shit that some dev said stupid stuff on twitter or some CEO lied about the graphics quality of their game or that EA is overworks people. I pay no attention to them and they do not affect if I will buy a game.

When I think about the countless things I buy and all the possibly terrible companies I buy them from I realize I simply don't have time in my life to care about things like that.
 

RMI

Banned
Anything Orson Scott Card gets a paycheck for. The Gamergate douche who made The Vanishing of Ethan Carter. And I'm about to stop giving money to Activision. Just look what they did to Bungie, my former favorite developer.

didn't know he was involved with gamergate. I just thought he was the homophobe whose work was the basis for Shadow Complex.
 

i-Jest

Member
Amiibos and their ilk. A perpetually incomplete set of collectibles to clutter your home and leave you bankrupt? Nope. Nope nope nope.

This made me laugh more than it should have and I collect the things.


- season passes aren't things I normally buy

- always online games I don't normly play

- unjustified microtransaction
 

Qwark

Member
I won't buy anything made by Rebellion Studios after all the crap they started trying to prevent people from using the word "Rebellion". I mean, really, come on. It helps that I'm not really interested in any of their games.

I also won't touch f2p games that use timers (unless they have a 1-time unlock fee, but that's not really f2p anymore anyway), I want to play on my terms.

I'm also super burnt out on match 3 games, but that's not really principal, just sick of them.

Never bought a digital game, DLC, season pass, micro-transaction etc... anything like that. Luckily I have no interest in them anyway.
Dude, you're missing out on so many great digital games that would never be feasible as a physical release anyway.

didn't know he was involved with gamergate. I just thought he was the homophobe whose work was the basis for Shadow Complex.
Ah man, you guys are ruining OSC for me. I had no idea he was such a douche.
 

papo

Member
Not really. Nothing on principle. I may avoid mobile games or games like LoL because they are not my thing, but I will try everything once and just not pay attention to stuff I really don't care about.

I feel that because gaming is a business there is a lot of stuff that people avoid on principle that seems like overreacting in the grander scheme of things. I know they do shady stuff specially with DLC and microtransactions sometimes, but I just avoid those. More often than not they do not affect the overall experience of that particular game.

For example more recently MGSV got a lot of heat with Konami acting crappy and the FoB. Nothing would hav emade me skip Kojima's last game and in the end the FoB didn't really restrict anything in the main game.

What I kind of dislike is when people 'on principle' half-ass/avoid game by just buying them used. I feel if it bothers you hat much that it goes against what you believe don't buy it at all, this 'punishment' of buying used seem like a joke.
 

Atolm

Member
I don't boycott anything by principle but I don't play mobile or F2P games for the most part, so I guess that? They just don't pick my attention at all.
 

Olly88

Member
You've never bought a digital game? Why?
I just really dislike the thought of buying a game and not having anything physical to show for it. Even when the games are free, like the ones they gave after PSN was down, even though I've already got access to them I'd rather buy actual copies of them. The whole experience just doesn't feel right to me.

Obviously the main reason is probably because I'm a big fan of collecting games, but maybe there's some other reason(s) too that I haven't figured out yet. Though I don't mind having digital music/films/tv etc, so who knows.
 

L Thammy

Member
The thread title is driving me crazy.

On topic, there aren't a lot of things that affect my purchasing decision like that. Not buying a game because the designer is a jerk on Twitter is petty. Not buying it because it has microtransactions is trying to deny reality. I'd probably avoid Gamergate folks and neo-Nazis unless their game is somehow incredible despite them, but there aren't a lot of them whose products I'm interested in. Kingdom Come is the only thing that really comes to mind.

Honestly, the most horrible games out there are too crappy to justify purchasing as is. I'm talking about things like Ethnic Cleansing, that white nationalist recruitment game where you murder ethnic minorities. Nobody in 2002 was that desperate to play a shooter game.
 
Gamer Petitions/Movements

After a decade working with multiple studios and publishers, I can tell you with absolute certainty, that they're completely ineffective and 99% of industry management are completely unaware of their existence in most cases.

But the worst aspect of them... is when a company decides, for a completely unrelated reason, to eventually do the thing the petition was originally about. Then gamers all pat themselves on the back like they fought 'the man' and won. No. You didn't. We didn't a give single fuck about your campaign. We probably didn't even know it existed. The policy changed because...

* It was already scheduled to change 8 months ago and we're just now implementing it - your 4 week campaign was pointless.

* Management within the company changed and they wanted to go in a different direction - completely oblivious to the fact that there was a small, vocal group advocating for the same thing somewhere on the internet.

* We actually got back real metric data that shows us we need to shift focus - and this would have happened with or without your campaign anyway.

So, even if I agree with their premise, there's really no point to supporting them. Consumers lost all power years and years ago. Pretending there's some remnant of that still left is, quite frankly, delusional.
 

Data West

coaches in the WNBA
Toys to life. I'm not even a 'ugh this is disgusting I'm boycotting this' type. It's more a, 'I'm not spending 200 dollars on your game just to unlock things already on the disc.'

That shit is ten times worse than dlc for stuff already on the disc.
 

KdylanR92

Member
Nothing really, if I like the game i'm going to buy it.

If a new Monster Hunter for consoles was announced that had microtransactions, preorder DLC, the fucking devs came out as pro-gamegaters and it had a monthly online fee, I would open a new tab and Pre-order that shit right now, hell gimme the collectors edition and art book I don't care.
 
Pre-order bonus bullshit. This kind of crap actually makes me less likely to buy the game.

I also hate the idea of buying season passes early on before we have a good idea what the content will actually be. Buying a season pass on launch day is fucking madness to me.
 

7threst

Member
Nah, it's hobby and it's not worth getting panties in a twist and "boycotting" shit like a fool.
No offence to you or anyone in particular, but my hobbies and my principles go hand in hand. If a game or developer is touching upon stuff I don't like it stings.
 

Olly88

Member
Dude, you're missing out on so many great digital games that would never be feasible as a physical release anyway.
Yeah that's true. It is disappointing when I see a game that I think looks cool but ends up being digital only.

But there are so many games out there I'll never get to play them all, so one way or another I'm going to miss out. If I see a digital game that looks good, for every one of those there's always another game I'm interested in that did get a physical release that I don't own yet, so I'd rather save the money and go and buy one of those instead.

Luckily, the two main digital games I've been interested in have ended up getting physical releases, which was nice.
 

Vlaphor

Member
Games that get censored or edited in any notable way in their US release. We live in an era where everyone knows everything and this is stuff you just can't get past us anymore. I just don't want to support companies that do that.

Also, about Amiibos. I buy some of them (have 6), but I haven't opened any of them. Don't plan to. Just a big fan of Nintendo's stuff and glad to have cheap collectibles to decorate my room. Certainly won't pay scalper prices for any of them, or even anything about their MSRP.
 

Bergerac

Member
Exclusives gone multiplatform, diluting the differences between systems. Legacy, I understand. Especially 2 plus generations. Concurrent generation? Fuck off.
 

Kalamoj

Member
I generally don't buy MP only and always online games. The pub/dev can kill the servers any time they want.
Also don't buy DLCs I just don't think they are worth their price in general.
But this shit is nowhere close to what Black Library is doing with Horus Heresy.
 

Jakoo

Member
To be honest I wasn't commenting about you specifically, more anyone who uses that argument to dismiss more serious issues within gaming, though I can see how you read it as that, I could have worded it a little better

You also made a leap though referring to boycotts when that wasn't what the thread is about

You can play a game with micro transactions and not use them out of principle, like in your example, and unless you feel particularity strongly over a certain publisher or dev you can still play their games while reducing support for them through buying the game when it's on sale or used

I don't think this kind of thing will change things, like I said in the OP, no matter what anyone does, micro transactions in paid games are here to stay now, there is no turning back, you can boycott, you can refuse to use them, but it won't matter. No one is expecting to change that by not using them, but you can still fundamentally disagree with them being in paid games and refuse to use them out of principle

Haha...you are right. I guess I meant a solo-boycott, not actively rallying against something.
 

AmyS

Member
Digital pre-orders, season passes, nickel & diming microtransactions, and digital downloads of games that are available at retail.
 
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