zeopower6
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I guess it may have been buried? 4chan can move fast and people make a lot of dumb posts there. Though every so often, they're for real.
Multiple fatalities reported at Umpqua Community College shooting in Oregon
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I guess it may have been buried? 4chan can move fast and people make a lot of dumb posts there. Though every so often, they're for real.
Seriously.
"But the bad guys and criminals will have guns"
Then it will be far easier to know who they are and easier to take them from them.
state police
They should at least wait until it's confirmed that she's safe and out of the shooting area. Otherwise it's an incredibly insensitive thing to do. And yes, I know how journalism works.
ElectricBlanketFire
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You seriously don't get the difference?
For the last time that is not going to fix it.
ChubbyHuggs
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Isn't it kinda the same thought process of posting online while someone is mid shooting?
Tom Nook
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Right or wrong, they have to adapt with the change in how people communicate.
I don't remember really, it was long after I graduated. I just remember reading about it in the news. But I imagine it'd not be too difficult for the police to get an IP address and focus it from there.
I guess I'm more so saying if people see things like this they shouldn't just go "Oh everyone is anonymous, nobody will be able to trace it anyway, no need to report it".
that would require an impressive misunderstanding of both the English language and American federal law, which explicitly defines the "militia" to include at least all able-bodied male citizens between 17 and 45 years old
Drastic reduction of the number of guns in circulation would absolutely help to fix the problem don't be daft.
How about we fucking just ban guns.
I'm past compromise. Ban these things already JESUS.
helloresolven
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So, she's fleeing from bullets and ducks down to tweet?
JetBlackPanda
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if that is still accurate I need to send it to my co worker. I just told him about the shooting and he basically said LOL GUNFREEZONE liberal college.
TheLostBigBoss
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some inner city schools do, and there are campus police/security.
trying to guard every school isn't going to do anything when the person who is intending to kill looks like everyone else and has the element of surprise
entremet
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Which state?
Universities do have police but campuses are so huge and open that to station an armed guard and metal detector at every entrance would be outrageously expensive. Plus people are going to have all sorts of metal shit that would trip the sensor
Well obviously the next step is to have mandatory concealed carry.
I don't see how it could make things worse.
The Artisan
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no offense (I ask this genuinely), but do you have a better proposal?
Hale-XF11
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I wonder how many gun owners are driven by fear in order to obtain one. I would guess it's a pretty significant amount. We live in a society that seems increasingly paranoid and fearful, which really bums me out. I could easily point fingers as to who I think is at the reigns of all this, but I don't feel that I'll get anywhere with it.
And how do you suggest they do that oh wise one?
partyphone
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America is the greatest country in the world we can do anything I'm sure we can get rid of all our guns!
TwoDurans
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ElectricBlanketFire
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Maybe she's trying to get help/letting friends and family know she's alive?
Super_Cobra
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I watched a YouTube video about posts like these on 4chan. Apparently their is a lot of psychopaths on 4chan and people don't seem to give a shit.
Rip to all those people. Sad day.
JetBlackPanda
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Yeah that's what he said. its fucking Bananas.
TheLostBigBoss
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the issue is your ideas are simply not possible with the political climate, the constitution or public opinion.
we can all have ideas, but suggesting ideas that are impossible is just silly when they are clearly not going to get anything done.
CapitalismSucks DonkeyBalls
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You gotta be fucking kidding me.
Absolutely incredible that nothing will change or happen. In fact the NRA will go on the offensive, "enforce existing laws" (while they simultaneously try to erode and weaken existing laws).
Anyone trying to bring this up seriously will be targeted for political attacks.
The news organizations will bafflingly act like this has nothing to do with our gun culture.
Everything from Facebook to Mental health facilities will be blamed.
Nobody of note will be able to speak calmly and rationally about the American Problem With Guns without being shouted down. Long-time gafers, intelligent, otherwise reasonable people, will insist that the issue is not connected to the fact that Americans have casual, unlimited access to deadly weapons.
We bring it up in every thread, but Sandy Hook demonstrates forever, that we as a culture have an insane attitude towards guns.
Nothing will happen.
And there will be another one within the month.
Sigh.
Anyone trying to bring this up seriously will be targeted for political attacks.
The news organizations will bafflingly act like this has nothing to do with our gun culture.
Everything from Facebook to Mental health facilities will be blamed.
Nobody of note will be able to speak calmly and rationally about the American Problem With Guns without being shouted down. Long-time gafers, intelligent, otherwise reasonable people, will insist that the issue is not connected to the fact that Americans have casual, unlimited access to deadly weapons.
We bring it up in every thread, but Sandy Hook demonstrates forever, that we as a culture have an insane attitude towards guns.
Nothing will happen.
And there will be another one within the month.
Sigh.
cartoon_soldier
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Australia did the first two pretty succesfully in the mid 1990s
Stop with the "criminals" thing.
"Criminals" don't shoot up schools randomly - they target people/things for gain. People who have easy access to guns who have serious mental issues cause this. And you know what? If we cut off their gun access, we'd solve a whole lot of this.
Think about how many metal things a student is probably carrying from class to class. Pens have bits metal in them. Phones. Some notebooks. Calculators. Laptops or tablets. Car keys. It's a good idea in theory but on a massive level it would cause issues
Oregon, Washington, California, Montana, Idaho. Might as well contact the FBI too since it wasn't state specific
I've outlined my proposals, and they're typically things that could actually be passed, unlike the "ban all guns" pipedream.
Well good for them. They're also a different country with a different cultural and historical background.
You realize that a lot of these school shootings are from people that A) don't have a criminal records and B) bought guns legally, right
No one's saying that tighter gun control would magically stop all shootings from happening, but it would stop stuff like this from happening on such a constant basis.
JetBlackPanda
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when is the last time a "criminal" shot up a school? or movie theater? its always a kid or a mental case. Gun violence will always be a problem sure, but kids walking into a gym class and blowing away their classmates is not the same as a gang banger hitting another in a drive by.
Fine Ham Abounds
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Yep, let's just stick a few thousand more mentally ill people on watch lists, they're not even real people anyway so they won't miss their rights like law abiding gun collectors will
As long as we have the crazies accounted for no one can say we didn't do our due diligence next time
partyphone
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It's not going to magic away everyone's ability to get a gun like it sounds like it would. 2nd amendment is totally pointless in present day but still.
You keep talking about acknowledging peoples rights.
I dont think gun ownership is or should be a right. I don't think we can take guns away from people, but we can certainly ban them going forward.
Also - and I feel this strongly - if you don't support strong action toward gun control, and/or you yourself own guns - you're part of this problem.
Someone always says this every single time there is a shooting. Every. Single. Time.
There is never a "good" time to talk about gun control. But it needs to be talked about.
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