Multiple fatalities reported at Umpqua Community College shooting in Oregon

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You seriously don't think being a part of a community like that and having people cheering you on can motivate someone to actually go through with something like this?

I think having the thought to do it and being provided the means to carry it in the first place are more pressing issues. I think there are many people that are part of that community that also post on neogaf or, in general, plenty of them that don't support his actions. I'm sure in that very thread there were lots of people telling him not to go through with it.
 
And that is exactly it's problem. Not every site needs to be moderated like GAF, but at the same time if a site chooses not to moderate, and it attracts a shit ton racists, sexists, homophobes and people who encourage someone to go on a killing spree, then relish when it actually happens. Then I'm going to call that site trash. It can't have it's cake and eat it too.

"When you decline to create or to curate a culture in your spaces, you’re responsible for what spawns in the vacuum."

Totally agree. There's a pretty intense faction that would disagree though.
 
People laughing over the Beta male club thing on CNN but they are absolutely right.

20 years ago shitstains like this guy would have cried in their room and if any violence happened we were lucky they offed themselves. Now these people get to meet up with the others like them and find echo chambers for their the world hates us, women are evil, woe is me bullshit.

I mean we had people going so far as to tell him how to maximize kills and how to lure people into a sense of security so they would be easier to massacre.. The people saying not to do it were more concerned with their ownership of a gun than any potential lives lost.
Places like that have no legitimate purpose and need to cease to exist.

No lies detected
 
Even though I'm a Conservative in many views, it really is beyond me how people can defend such ease of access to firearms. Guns are inherently weapons of destruction, and while many people use them rightly we as a society need to keep those who shouldn't have them from getting them. The people who are responsible who desire to hunt, protect themselves will always be able to do so, but we absolutely cannot keep allowing this to happen. More guns is not the solution either.
 
I agree that Gun Control and Mental Health improvements can help prevent this stuff but I honestly think we have a parenting culture issue in America.

I think we just have way too many kids who have grown up in either broken homes, or homes where parents are applying disciplineless modern parenting styles. I'm not advocating corporal punishment but parents seem to just let kids do whatever they want all the time with no accountability. My wife is a teacher and some of the kid/parent relationships are dominated by the kids and they run wild.

Its a little too late for the current generation and I honestly think its going to get worse.
 
Of course it was /r9k/. Fucking pathetic scumbags. The whole board should be purged. The culture and mentality it promotes is self-defeating and now it's even dangerous. All it does is provide an echo chamber that condones extreme misogyny and misanthropy.
 
I hope America can find a way to emulate Australian gun laws. They work really well and we are still able to go hunting or collect weapons if we want.

People need to be able to go to school or cinemas or church or shopping and not get shot en masse every few weeks.
 
People laughing over the Beta male club thing on CNN but they are absolutely right.

20 years ago shitstains like this guy would have cried in their room and if any violence happened we were lucky they offed themselves. Now these people get to meet up with the others like them and find echo chambers for their the world hates us, women are evil, woe is me bullshit.

I mean we had people going so far as to tell him how to maximize kills and how to lure people into a sense of security so they would be easier to massacre.. The people saying not to do it were more concerned with their ownership of a gun than any potential lives lost.
Places like that have no legitimate purpose and need to cease to exist.

nail > head

Yup. Pretty accurate.
 
Isn't Ellen Pao working to clean the site up? I don't keep up with that racist shit hole though

Isn't she not part of Reddit anymore? It's still pretty bad though. The way they handle "user accounts" over there is nearly the same as having things work like they do on 4chan and the other anonymous boards.
 
Hey America, we've got internet anonymity and mental health issues and shitty parenting and every other social ill imaginable in the rest of the civilised world too.

You know what we don't have? Regularly scheduled gun massacres.

The UK and Australia have both demonstrated that gun control works. When you take away the guns you drastically reduce the number and severity of shooting sprees.
 
Isn't Ellen Pao working to clean the site up? I don't keep up with that racist shit hole though

She got fired. The new policies put those kind of shit subreddits under "Quarantine". Never count as all, never show up in searches, and all kinds of other restrictions that make the shit difficult to spread through Reddit itself.

It's the largest set of English language forums in the world, by a fairly substantial margin. It isn't remotely fair or justified to throw (the wildly more popular) photography groups out with the fringe racists and sexists.
 
The UK and Australia have both demonstrated that gun control works. When you take away the guns you drastically reduce the number and severity of shooting sprees.

The UK and Australia aren't the United States. The challenges are different. There should be more done but nobody should be under the impression that it's that simple.
 
I'll say this .. I work in a school . i'm not a teacher but i'm in charge of a bunch of stuff , mainly networks . i work closely with students and teachers on a daily basis. Loving my job.

I'm not in america , i'm from that country some of you might know in europe by name called "france".

Gun laws works. That is all.
I'm happy that i can go to work every morning , not thinking that my place of work might win the sad "lottery of life" and get assaulted by a mad man with guns because nothing was done to prevent it.

It's baffling that your president is powerless to change this. It's baffling that your congressmen/women are more focused on there money and poilitcal urges to ignore the issue.

My profond and most sincère condolenaces to the famillies of the deceased . May the injuried recover as fast as possible.

Ps: 4chan is nothing but a magnifying glass for the internet as a whole, if you think that the problem lies only within 4chan , then you are a fool
 
I agree that Gun Control and Mental Health improvements can help prevent this stuff but I honestly think we have a parenting culture issue in America.

I think we just have way too many kids who have grown up in either broken homes, or homes where parents are applying disciplineless modern parenting styles. I'm not advocating corporal punishment but parents seem to just let kids do whatever they want all the time with no accountability. My wife is a teacher and some of the kid/parent relationships are dominated by the kids and they run wild.

Its a little too late for the current generation and I honestly think its going to get worse.

Parenting is without a doubt a massive issue. We live in a society that if you try to keep your kid in check and call stuff out you are "insensitive" and just "don't understand them"

The inmates are running the asylum. No I dont mean all kids are crazy its just an analogy. In my career I see kids and parents all the time. They let them do anything they want and say shit like "I cant tell him no, its so mean"
 
Damn, I had to learn a whole knew set of lingo today to understand that 4Chan thread.

Twitter is saying it's a dude from Portland.. but that's twitter.
 
Mentally ill, broken homes, poverty, etc. aren't unique to the US though.

No, but a long history of gun ownership, the degree to which is ingrained in the culture, and the U.S. not being an island nation mean it's not as simple as copy/pasting policy from another country.
 
Of course it was /r9k/. Fucking pathetic scumbags. The whole board should be purged. The culture and mentality it promotes is self-defeating and now it's even dangerous. All it does is provide an echo chamber that condones extreme misogyny and misanthropy.

Well, it's like the guy on CNN said, and something that I've considered for a long time: Before the internet these guys tended to be stuck inside by themselves, isolated. But now they have a means of finding each other.

4chan is just one website. There will be others. The "problem" is the nature of the net in general, which lets like-minded people come together, bad or good.

However.

Let's not let this discussion of the net distract from the real issues, which are trivial access to guns and lack of care for mental health.
 
The UK and Australia aren't the United States. The challenges are different. There should be more done but nobody should be under the impression that it's that simple.

Maybe it would be if the US would simply...try it?

Why is that so hard to do? Why not just freaking try it? If it doesn't work here, than we go back to the drawing board.
 
It of course depends on whether we're talking state or federal charges (I'd think federal given the encouragement happened across state borders), but a reasonable case can be made that people knowingly encouraged a murder. The defense would obviously be that they thought he was kidding and therefore aren't responsible, but that would be for a jury to decide, and I wouldn't want to be one of the guys who encouraged and then later on praised the shootings.

i don't think i want anything more than for those fuckers specifically to get caught and tried.
 
Maybe it would be if the US would simply...try it?

Why is that so hard to do? Why not just freaking try it? If it doesn't work here, than we go back to the drawing board.

Just "try" a blanket ban? It's not that simple. It may be that simple in your mind, but there's a lot of ground to cover before a ban becomes palatable. That's just being realistic, as shitty as it is. I think gun control proponents miss the boat when they jump straight to a ban. They should chip away at smaller reforms until we get to that point.
 
Hey America, we've got internet anonymity and mental health issues and shitty parenting and every other social ill imaginable in the rest of the civilised world too.

You know what we don't have? Regularly scheduled gun massacres.

The UK and Australia have both demonstrated that gun control works. When you take away the guns you drastically reduce the number and severity of shooting sprees.
You don't have millions of redneck dipshits in your country though.
 
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