Marvels Secret Wars by Hickman & Ribic |OT| Everything ends... Everything begins
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echoshifting
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It's a big spoiler. Some will say it's predictable, and the main news here is standard comics, but there are details to the spoiler that are surprising.
No.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
twozerotwo
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IIRC, they showed Thor, Black Swan and two(?) other people either integrated to where they "should" be or standing alone somewhere.
He (Quill) was gathering an army in Guardians of Knowhere. This issue was probably supposed to come out before that.
Siege spoliers
America using her multiverse power brings up so many questions. They might have just downgraded it to teleportation. However, the surprise reaction tell me that it hints at something more. Possibly that she might actually remember the old world the whole time and she and Kate might have jumped off Battleworld.
SW 6:
SO good. That conversation between the Reeds was excellent, just a notch above the Spider-banter.
One thing I didn't like was Panther and Namor already in a teamup when we first see them again. I thought we would get a little more buildup than that.
Anyway, I am ready for some Clobbering action next issue.
One thing I didn't like was Panther and Namor already in a teamup when we first see them again. I thought we would get a little more buildup than that.
Anyway, I am ready for some Clobbering action next issue.
Coriolanus
Banned
Ah, found him.
Yerp. Knew that leg was familiar.
Yerp. Knew that leg was familiar.
LucidMomentum
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THIS COMIC. THIS FUCKIN COMIC.
SO GOOD.
SO GOOD.
BossDarkseid
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I have just read iron man on the bus but i did not get what people said was a spoiler in relation to the conclusion of Secret Wars?
BossDarkseid
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Oh yeah id seen that somewhere else so i was expecting something else. Ah well. Enjoyed it tho
Coriolanus
Banned
Of note is that, the way that scene was written, SW's ending should give the idea that the exact opposite happens.
Or at the very least that he'd be removed from play.
Or at the very least that he'd be removed from play.
They have given no indication on
whether anyone remembers anything about whatever happened in Battleworld, which version of Batleworld hero is granted back in 616, and what do people / heroes who weren't there know about it.
The end of Iron-Man 1 shows
a surprised Tony Stark facing an unrecognisable Doom
Stark not knowing Doom appearance without his armour and being befuddled at him being out without it.
who this Tony Stark is and what does he know about Battleworld and Doom.
On the other hand, we do know that
Doom was unable to cure his face even with his godly powers
Coriolanus
Banned
You did notice that he still had a scar, yeah?
But yes, fair point. We don't even know who that Vic is.
But yes, fair point. We don't even know who that Vic is.
Coriolanus
Banned
616 tony popped up in Ultimate End, tho.
Fucking Bendis man. Gotta make complicated shit even more complicated for no reason.
Ultimate End characters weren't really 616 characters. They even mentioned Doom remaking/rebooting things in the past. Plus Bendis.
Siege #4 spoilers:
judging how the final panel says something like final war journal entry, I'd say it's the end of the series
The only problem with this Tony is that
it references stuff that happened during the recent Iron Man run, which was in 616
Pretty sure it's only 4 issues, but it may tie back into Secret Wars at the end.
Yes, that's the end.
It was pretty good, i think. Some of the double page spreads from guest artists were awesome, and the main characters were fleshed-out.
EDIT: too late, send me to the Wall
LucidMomentum
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I'm honestly hoping we get an Omnibus with all of the tie-ins and the main story, in some sort of chronological or thematic order. I know it won't be cheap, but it would be nice to not have to hand a friend 30 plus comics just to get the full experience.
It would have to be multiple volumes. I never kept track of how many issues all of these tie ins add to, but it must be in the hundreds.
LucidMomentum
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Oh for sure. I wouldn't mind it being in 3-4 volumes, but it would be nice to have it all curated in some form. I can't even keep track of them all.
Ribic faces still too good.
Who knew all Carol needed to be interesting was a little Sinister?
Dalek, pls.
Who knew all Carol needed to be interesting was a little Sinister?
Dalek, pls.
Unfortunately I don't think we'll see any of that, maybe a panel or so.
Coriolanus
Banned
I know it'll probably be crap just like the other 4 issues, but Ultimate End #5 will only be released in november. What the hell.
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Deleted member 13876
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A few things:
The story told to Franklin and Valeria doesn't really add up for me. It's shown Doom has completely shifted people's backgrounds on a whim in the tie-ins. Atillan Rising in particular has him completely swap Black Bolt and Medusa's roles and parts of the domain in literally a finger snap. So I think that despite what Hickman has said, this is the original Fantastic Four and the reveal is what will make Reed go over the edge towards the climax of the story.
This also makes me wonder why he doesn't finger snap the prophet's uprising back to a status quo of his choosing. Maybe he can't affect the raft survivors in the same way, or the story will paint it much like Thanos' L in the Infinity Gauntlet, where his subconscious basically wanted him to lose.
The delay has definitely made things awkward though. Especially with the Bendis books this event. Ultimate End had Bendis swearing up and down everything will make sense when the last issue hits and the Wolverine book was basically just him hurling like a pinball ball through Battleworld and then 616. Then there's that Iron Man cliffhanger.
This also makes me wonder why he doesn't finger snap the prophet's uprising back to a status quo of his choosing. Maybe he can't affect the raft survivors in the same way, or the story will paint it much like Thanos' L in the Infinity Gauntlet, where his subconscious basically wanted him to lose.
The delay has definitely made things awkward though. Especially with the Bendis books this event. Ultimate End had Bendis swearing up and down everything will make sense when the last issue hits and the Wolverine book was basically just him hurling like a pinball ball through Battleworld and then 616. Then there's that Iron Man cliffhanger.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
I think that is the case. It's probably why he left the problem of the uprising to his barons, and what he was referring to about having less grace.
There was one panel with Reed 1610 that was also copy-pasted from elsewhere. It stood out like a sore thumb.
Coriolanus
Banned
We've pondered that previously, and the reason why it's kinda easy to accept that maybe those are not, in fact, the 616 FF Family, is because then Vic would basically be pretty much raping Susan. Think it was kwiston or someone else that raised a point along those lines.
If they aren't 616, tho, it makes no sense whatsoever for the Fantastic Foundation to be hanging around, all intact-like.
If they aren't 616, tho, it makes no sense whatsoever for the Fantastic Foundation to be hanging around, all intact-like.
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Deleted member 13876
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I can see that. At the end of the day though, Doom is still a villain and has done things like making a suit of armor out of the woman he loved the most. While Hickman seems to have steered away from that characterization and stuff like that may not fly today.
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