TMZ: Lamar Odom Found Unconscious In Nevada Brothel

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Sad. I think he seemed like a good fellow after watching him on KUWTK. Swedish news source says he has suffered from a few strokes and his chances to pull through aren't good.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
It's the old adage, especially in dealing with addicts: You can't help someone until they are ready to help themselves. If Lamar was doing a 4 day coke bender in a brothel, he probably wasn't ready to help himself and thus, there is NOTHING Kobe or his wife or anyone else could have really done to help him.
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What could they do?
 
wth is Master P tawnbout? Like DL said it be shitty for an outsider to say "Master P didn't do enough for C.Murder!"

And to add, P is a former crack dealer...
 
BloodyJasonMask said:
The reason spoke on this situation is because Master P said that Kobe could have done more to help Lamar. He's basically saying that Master P doesn't know what Kobe has done for Lamar. At least that's what I got out of it.
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I know about what Master P said. But the way Hugley was talking, its like he knew what Kobe has tried to do with Lamar or something. Im trying to see if he actually does. If not, why is he out here on some junkies gonna be junkies shit instead of just not speaking on personal situations he knows nothing about?
 
rambis said:
I know about what Master P said. But the way Hugley was talking, its like he knew what Kobe has tried to do with Lamar or something. Im trying to see if he actually does. If not, why is he out here on some junkies gonna be junkies shit instead of just not speaking on personal situations he knows nothing about?
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He didn't say that at all. He is saying that Master P doesn't know what Kobe did or didn't do, so for him to speak on it as a criticism towards Kobe is a dick move. He is also explaining his history with having a loved one who is an addict, and explaining that sometimes there is nothing you can do to help them no matter how bad you hope/pray/try.
 
So, I'm in the gym today, and the news is covering this. And three girls on treadmills behind me hear the news, look at the tv, and one says...

"Oh wow, Lamar might have serious brain damage!"

And it wasn't in a voice of concern. Girl seemed flat out giddy about the news.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
He didn't say that at all. He is saying that Master P doesn't know what Kobe did or didn't do, so for him to speak on it as a criticism towards Kobe is a dick move. He is also explaining his history with having a loved one who is an addict, and explaining that sometimes there is nothing you can do to help them no matter how bad you hope/pray/try.
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How does he know what P knows, is my point. P has known Odom for years; before Kobe did. Who knows what they talk about?

For P to call Kobe out for not being there, it raises the question. What has Kobe done to help Lamar since his spiral? Or Khloe for that matter? Its totally believable that now that shit has hit the fan in the worst way, that now Kobe legitimately cares but could he have helped sooner? Has he even reached out prior to this?

Again, im questioning what does DL Hugley actually know about the situation to be here on the radio with some junkies gonna be junkies shit? We have one person in Odom's circle calling out another person in who is/was in Odom's circle. Where does Hugley fit exactly?
 
rambis said:
How does he know what P knows, is my point. P has known Odom for years; before Kobe did. Who knows what they talk about?

For P to call Kobe out for not being there, it raises the question. What has Kobe done to help Lamar since his spiral? Or Khloe for that matter? Its totally believable that now that shit has hit the fan in the worst way, that now Kobe legitimately cares but could he have helped sooner? Has he even reached out prior to this?

Again, im questioning what does DL Hugley actually know about the situation to be here on the radio with some junkies gonna be junkies shit? We have one person in Odom's circle calling out another person in who is/was in Odom's circle. Where does Hugley fit exactly?
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It doesn't matter what he knows. He's not the one saying Master P is a bad friend for not being their for an addict. Master P is the one questioning people's intentions and criticizing them for whether or not they have and haven't done. And DL is using his experience with addicts to say "Hey, sometimes you can't do anything. You can give a person all the support, love, money, resources, whatever, and they will still run back to the drugs." Even if Master P knows, and is friends with Lamar, he would still be an ass for calling out Kobe. He is basically saying that anyone who is friends or family with an addict, are phonies because their friends or family are addicts.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
It doesn't matter what he knows. He's not the one saying Master P is a bad friend for not being their for an addict. Master P is the one questioning people's intentions and criticizing them for whether or not they have and haven't done. And DL is using his experience with addicts to say "Hey, sometimes you can't do anything. You can give a person all the support, love, money, resources, whatever, and they will still run back to the drugs." Even if Master P knows, and is friends with Lamar, he would still be an ass for calling out Kobe. He is basically saying that anyone who is friends or family with an addict, are phonies because their friends or family are addicts.
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It does matter what he knows or doesnt know and thats not what P was saying at all. If he doesn't know shit then he should keep his mouth shut. Alot of people have had to deal with junkies, we don't need him to bring this up if it has no relevance.

Again, reports are saying that Lamar just recently had this relapse after getting into some kind of argument on the phone with Khloe(who apparently recorded it for KUWTK). Before he was said to be down alot of weight trying to return to NBA shape. By most people's account Lamar hasn't been doping recently and was trying to be productive.

So why the fuck is Hugley on the radio with this junkies gonna be junkies shit trying to defend Kobe if he doesn't know shit?

And how is P an ass for calling Kobe out if it really is true that he hasn't done shit or tried to do shit? I would feel the same way if someone who could've helped me along time ago but didn't decides to show up to my deathbed.
 
rambis said:
It does matter what he knows or doesnt know and thats not what P was saying at all. If he doesn't know shit then he should keep his mouth shut. Alot of people have had to deal with junkies, we don't need him to bring this up if it has no relevance.

Again, reports are saying that Lamar just recently had this relapse after getting into some kind of argument on the phone with Khloe(who apparently recorded it for KUWTK). Before he was said to be down alot of weight trying to return to NBA shape. By most people's account Lamar hasn't been doping recently and was trying to be productive.

So why the fuck is Hugley on the radio with this junkies gonna be junkies shit trying to defend Kobe if he doesn't know shit?

And how is P an ass for calling Kobe out if it really is true that he hasn't done shit or tried to do shit? I would feel the same way if someone who could've helped me along time ago but didn't decides to show up to my deathbed.
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If what you got from that was "junkies gonna be junkies" then the entire thing seemed to go way over your head. That's not what Hughely was saying at all.

He is saying that when dealing with addiction and mental illness, if your first reaction is to point the finger at friends and loved ones and say "You are a shitty friend you didn't do enough!" then you are an asshole, and I agree with him. I don't care what Master P knows or doesn't know, that's not at all at issue. If he was supposedly close to Lamar, why didn't he help? Why didn't he stop the relapse? Why isn't he at Lamar's bedside? If he wasn't close to Lamar then he doesn't know shit about Lamar and Kobe's relationship.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
If what you got from that was "junkies gonna be junkies" then the entire thing seemed to go way over your head. That's not what Hughely was saying at all.

He is saying that when dealing with addiction and mental illness, if your first reaction is to point the finger at friends and loved ones and say "You are a shitty friend you didn't do enough!" then you are an asshole, and I agree with him. I don't care what Master P knows or doesn't know, that's not at all at issue. If he was supposedly close to Lamar, why didn't he help? Why didn't he stop the relapse? Why isn't he at Lamar's bedside? If he wasn't close to Lamar then he doesn't know shit about Lamar and Kobe's relationship.
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Who knows what happened? Who knows who Lamar reached out to? Again, there was supposedly an argument with his wife, Khloe that triggered him showing up to the brothel telling Hof he needed to get far away from something. At that point its already too late.

So what happened before then? What did Lamar need before that? There are things and connections that Kobe has that P doesnt and vice versa. We don't know if P had the ability to help Lamar. Or Kobe for that matter, but what has he told P that makes him conclude that nobody is helping him?

These are questions that can only be answered by people who are connected to the situation. If you don't know then don't be on the radio creating narratives and framing the guy as just a lost cause beyond the help of anybody.
 
rambis said:
Who knows what happened? Who knows who Lamar reached out to? Again, there was supposedly an argument with his wife, Khloe that triggered him showing up to the brothel telling Hof he needed to get far away from something. At that point its already too late.

So what happened before then? What did Lamar need before that? There are things and connections that Kobe has that P doesnt and vice versa. We don't know if P had the ability to help Lamar. Or Kobe for that matter, but what has he told P that makes him conclude that nobody is helping him?

These are questions that can only be answered by people who are connected to the situation. If you don't know then don't be on the radio creating narratives and framing the guy as just a lost cause beyond the help of anybody.
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And if you don't know don't be in a grocery store parking lot creating narratives and framing the guy as a bad friend just because Lamar relapsed.

And if Master P knows because he is "close" to Lamar, then why didn't he stop him from relapsing? Why wasn't he there for his buddy? Because he's a clownass hypocrite who is probably talking out of his ass hoping that someone mentions him on TMZ, that's why.

Again, you seem to completely miss DL Hughley's point. He's not pretending to know Lamar's personal life. He's not pretending to know Kobe's intentions. He is using his own personal experience with addicts to call out Master P on his flawed logic that if you are friends with an addict, and they relapse, then you are a bad friend. Sometimes you can be the best friend in the world and that won't stop an addict from relapsing.
 
This whole situation sucks and Lamars downfall has been fast.

I remember cheering for the guy for bagging a Kardashian; now he's on his deathbed. Wtf. Hope he pulls through with minimal damage.

Sure Kobe probably could have gotten him on the team, then again Kobe could toss me a couple million. Woulda, coulda, shoulda. P giving Kobe cred for a bad situation that has absolutely nothing to do with him.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
And if you don't know don't be in a grocery store parking lot creating narratives and framing the guy as a bad friend just because Lamar relapsed.

And if Master P knows because he is "close" to Lamar, then why didn't he stop him from relapsing? Why wasn't he there for his buddy? Because he's a clownass hypocrite who is probably talking out of his ass hoping that someone mentions him on TMZ, that's why.

Again, you seem to completely miss DL Hughley's point. He's not pretending to know Lamar's personal life. He's not pretending to know Kobe's intentions. He is using his own personal experience with addicts to call out Master P on his flawed logic that if you are friends with an addict, and they relapse, then you are a bad friend. Sometimes you can be the best friend in the world and that won't stop an addict from relapsing.
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Did you read what you quoted? Who knows what Lamar needed or who he reached out to prior to him going to the brothel? Again it was already far too late then.

And P didnt say anything with that logic at all, go watch the interview. He's an idiot for thinking that Kobe has the power to snap his finger and get lamar on the lakers but there's more to what he said.

But Im thinking im done with this particular subject. You don't seem to know much more than anybody else, you keep glossing over my points and are seemingly here to defend Kobe so im gonna let you have this.
 
rambis said:
Did you read what you quoted? Who knows what Lamar needed or who he reached out to prior to him going to the brothel? Again it was already far too late then.

And P didnt say anything with that logic at all, go watch the interview. He's an idiot for thinking that Kobe has the power to snap his finger and get lamar on the lakers but there's more to what he said.

But Im thinking im done with this particular subject. You don't seem to know much more than anybody else, you keep glossing over my points and are seemingly here to defend Kobe so im gonna let you have this.
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again the major point you seem to be missing is that DL Hughely is not trying to speak on Lamar's personal situation, and doesn't pretend to.
 
rambis said:
Did you read what you quoted? Who knows what Lamar needed or who he reached out to prior to him going to the brothel? Again it was already far too late then.

And P didnt say anything with that logic at all, go watch the interview. He's an idiot for thinking that Kobe has the power to snap his finger and get lamar on the lakers but there's more to what he said.

But Im thinking im done with this particular subject. You don't seem to know much more than anybody else, you keep glossing over my points and are seemingly here to defend Kobe so im gonna let you have this.
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You keep saying the same thing. So you really believe Lamar Odom has addiction problems because Kobe wasn't a good enough friend? That's not how addiction works.

edit: Odom first got to the Lakers at 2004, he would have been ~25 when he met Kobe. They're co-workers, not life-long friends. Why anyone would shit on Kobe of all people instead of other teammates/coaches is belying and agenda.
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IKa1hA-T5s

Anyone who truly believes these six superficial bimbos are powerful enough to get a grown ass man like Lamar Odom hooked onto drugs and self destruct the way he has - is a fucking moron!

I say this because I am seeing it all over the internet and media that the Kardashians are to blame for this mess - and the reason why Lamar is fighting for his life.

It's actually really disgusting that people are exploiting this tragedy, to find yet another reason to bash the Kardashians.

I reiterate this is a man who repeatedly cheated on his wife (Khloe) with multiple women, and further humiliated her by boasting about it in his drugged-up amateur rap videos. He has also been stalking her for years, and ironically the reason why Khloe is now making medical decisions over his life - is because he has used every trick in the book to delay the divorce for as long as he can.

Also Khloe is the one who reunited Lamar with his heroin addicted dead beat dad - only for the dad to hound Khloe for money. After she got sick of handing out money, Lamar's dad went to the media selling stories about the Kardashians. I guarantee you all the person who is responsible for all these hospital leaks about Lamar's condition is his own broke ass dad, trying to make money from the dire situation his son is in.

Also I didn't want to bring this up out of respect, but the reality is Lamar Odom is the reason why Rob Kardashian (once a young, energetic, successful, athletic, and good looking young man) developed a drug problem as Rob lived with Khloe & Lamar throughout their marriage - and Khloe herself has said (in prior episodes) that she feels guilty for not protecting Rob from Lamar......

Khloe Kardashian - Lamar Odom Poisoned My Brother

7/31/2014 7:58 AM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

Khloe Kardashian clearly blames Lamar Odom for contributing to her brother's drug problems -- and says she feels guilty for not being able to protect Rob from L.O.'s influences.

As we previously reported, Rob had gotten deep into sizzurp and weed -- and his family was pushing for him to go to rehab.

Now, Khloe is talking about Rob's issues -- and without specifically mentioning the drugs -- says Rob's problems stem from the time he lived with Lamar Odom, who has serious drug problems of his own.

"Rob has said, 'Being in that house it was so dark and it made me do dark things,'" Khloe said on "Keeping Up with the Kardashians."

Khloe added ... "Only Rob and Lamar know what happened in the house and know what's going on."

Khloe says she feels guilty about Rob's situation -- saying, "I was not there to protect Rob. I was not there to protect myself."
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Jasper said:
Anyone who truly believes these six superficial bimbos are powerful enough to get a grown ass man like Lamar Odom hooked onto drugs and self destruct the way he has - is a fucking moron!

Also Khloe is the one who reunited Lamar with his heroin addicted dead beat dad - only for the dad to hound Khloe for money. After she got sick of handing out money, Lamar's dad went to the media selling stories about the Kardashians. I guarantee you all the person who is responsible for all these hospital leaks about Lamar's condition is his own broke ass dad, trying to make money from the dire situation his son is in.
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So Khloe isn't responsible for the downward spiral Lamar experienced after reuniting with his dad? Yeah, okay buddy.
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Master P says he's willing to have a face-to-face with Kobe Bryant -- and his message would be simple ... "It's just sad that last month no one had anything positive to say about Lamar."

It's another round in the Master P vs. Kobe Bryant war -- which started when P told TMZ Sports Kobe was a phony friend to Lamar because he didn't help Odom when he needed it the most ... only to surface at the hospital after things went wrong.

Kobe responded by saying it's insensitive to question his support of Lamar in such a critical moment.

Now round 3 ... P issued another statement titled," The Truth Hurts" -- in which he says during conversations with Lamar, Odom would complain "how everybody turned their backs on him, even his nba buddies."

P continued, "I am not trying to question the support of others that are truly grieving, this is a critical, life and death situation. This is only my opinion, it's just sad that last month no one had anything positive to say about Lamar."

There's more ... P says he doesn't blame anyone else for Lamar's current condition -- saying it's "a result of his decisions and actions" -- and admitted that even he had to distance himself from Odom.

"I tried to mentor him and give him advice but he is a grown man and made his own decisions ... I get that, that's life. So that's why I stopped dealing with Lamar."
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There is also a twitter or ig post from P that lists this big writeup with him in a clean suite for some reason. I'm hoping he wrote that in the past for another occasion, because the pic is so unnecessary.
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P said he was a mentor of LO, then said he wasn't.
Says he distanced himself from LO, then questions why Kobe did it.

lol
 
Andrew Korenchkin said:
Oh well, Kendrick>>>>Whoever this guy is.
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No, I doubt that even if Kendrick had a 20 year career to be honest. Music business wise, P is up there with Diddy/Birdman/Suge for what he accomplished. The argument could probably be made to put him over them as well with Birdman edging him out in the end.
 
EzekelRAGE said:
http://www.tmz.com/2015/10/16/master-p-kobe-bryant-lamar-odom/


There is also a twitter or ig post from P that lists this big writeup with him in a clean suite for some reason. I'm hoping he wrote that in the past for another occasion, because the pic is so unnecessary.
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P said he was a mentor of LO, then said he wasn't.
Says he distanced himself from LO, then questions why Kobe did it.

lol
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So Lamar says even his NBA buddies turned there back on him. Who'dve thought? But now that he's on his last legs, everybody wants to make sure the media knows they care.

I agree, thats fake as hell. I'll repeat, by the time he decided to check in that brothel it was already too late. Where was this new found support last month like P said?
 
rambis said:
So Lamar says even his NBA buddies turned there back on him. Who'dve thought? But now that he's on his last legs, everybody wants to make sure the media knows they care.

I agree, thats fake as hell. I'll repeat, by the time he decided to check in that brothel it was already too late. Where was this new found support last month like P said?
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You guys are phony for turning your back on Lamar when he was most in need...now let me explain why I turned my back on Lamar when he was most in need...
 
rambis said:
So Lamar says even his NBA buddies turned there back on him. Who'dve thought? But now that he's on his last legs, everybody wants to make sure the media knows they care.

I agree, thats fake as hell. I'll repeat, by the time he decided to check in that brothel it was already too late. Where was this new found support last month like P said?
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I mean, what can you do when someone is on the deep end and you've told them all you could do?

Dealing with someone who's addicted is incredibly difficult, especially at the level of addition Lamar seems to have.

They still have agency. You can't force the dude to go rehab.
 
Willectro said:
Can't stand Kardashian/West/Jenner apologists in 2015. You can't tell me you would want Khloe making medical decisions for you.
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I mean sure but Lamar Odom is a grown ass man. If he didn't want the woman he's married with to make these decision's he shouldn't have married her int he first place or shouldn't have stalled a divorce time and time again.

He knew what he was getting into when he said "I do". I don't wanna hear that like he some innocent victim of the Kardashians. He made a choice.
 
entrement said:
I mean, what can you do when someone is on the deep end and you've told them all you could do?

Dealing with someone who's addicted is incredibly difficult, especially at the level of addition Lamar seems to have.

They still have agency. You can't force the dude to go rehab.
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Clearly the answer is you get him a job on an NBA team. That should solve all of his problems. Kobe is selfish for not giving his buddy the hook up.
 
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