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Star Wars: The Force Awakens Final Trailer

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Tonight my daughter jumped up from the potty and ran off and I wondered why. Then I heard the Star Wars trailer music coming from the TV as she scampered down the hall pants-less to catch another glimpse of the trailer before bed. She's 3. She named that tune in like 2 notes.
 
Jonm1010 said:
It just seems like everyone is targeting Fahrenheit because he is the one with a deviant opinion of the trailer in this thread compared to the consensus. Sorry if I threw you into the group piling onto him.
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People are quoting him because everything he is saying is insanely ridiculous.

He said the movie will be an event just as much as Transformers.

Come the fuck on.
 
Jonm1010 said:
Holy cow. Just let the guy have his opinion.

We are all just making projections of quality based on a carefully edited 2.5 minute promotional clip. It's an argument that can't be answered for another couple months even if some people have already made up their own minds one way or the other.... Just save his quotes for the tomato meter thread like most Gaffers do. Assuming the film plays out like you guys project.
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I never projected anything about this film. His opinion on the trailer is fine, I was addressing him on assuming what the quality of the film was without seeing it.
 
Tookay said:
It's not really a matter of a deviant opinion.

It's that said deviant opinion doesn't make a lot of sense.

He's complaining about battles being emphasized in (1) a trailer and (2) a movie called Star WARS.
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Something tells me that if the forum piled on to a not insignificant number of people that loved the trailer, demanding explanation after explanation to qualify their opinion, they too would end up not making a lot of sense.
 
Key is never let others on the internet ruin your positivity.

A child-like excitement and optimism is something to hold sacred and you should feel pity for them as they have lost that.

I got goosebumps and I actually got misty-eyed. It must suck to never be able to experience the same feelings I can due to cynicism.
 
So the implication from the trailer is that Jedi/Sith are not really known about and are more of a 'folktale' again? Is that right? Kylo Ren may not be a Sith master and has only begun to seek out the dark side of the force?
 
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If one of those dudes is Iko Uwais I'm going to flip my shit so fucking hard.
 
Sutton Dagger said:
So the implication from the trailer is that Jedi/Sith are not really known about and are more of a 'folktale' again? Is that right? Kylo Ren may not be a Sith master and has only begun to seek out the dark side of the force?
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I mean, they were already basically a folk tale in the original trilogy, and this is 30 years later. Unless there was a resurgence of Jedi, it's not surprising they've passed into myth.
 
Honestly, if you think about it, did anyone really know about the Jedi & Sith during the original series? Most considered Darth Vader just someone who practiced an old religion and had "magical powers" to fear. Same with the Emperor. No one knew about the Jedi except for Leia and Han.

Most people know about the "ace pilot Skywalker" who defeated the first Death Star, but it disappeared from the Rebel alliance after Hoth to search for Han Solo.

I bet you Lando & Nien Nunb are heralded as the heroes of the Battle of Endor while no one but people like Han and Leia knew that Luke was the true hero that ended the Emperor.
 
So, this is from a guy who isn't really a fan of Star Wars, only watched Ep. IV and V (will watch VI before this), but likes the score (John Williams, duh), art style and design of this world and characters.

I liked the first scene, very cool. But in general, I thought the trailer was weaker than the trailer before. The other trailers felt like Star Wars, this too, but lesser. It felt more like a generic Hollywood trailer.

But when the score kicked in at the end, I too got goosebumps. Looking forward to it.
 
Sutton Dagger said:
So the implication from the trailer is that Jedi/Sith are not really known about and are more of a 'folktale' again? Is that right? Kylo Ren may not be a Sith master and has only begun to seek out the dark side of the force?
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Depending, if you consider things that are told by the director are spoilers:
He is not a sith. All Knight of Ren are no Sith, just dark side users.
But I strongy expect a Dark Lord in the Background.
 
Sutton Dagger said:
So the implication from the trailer is that Jedi/Sith are not really known about and are more of a 'folktale' again? Is that right? Kylo Ren may not be a Sith master and has only begun to seek out the dark side of the force?
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Guess Luke decided to go on a solo path finding quest instead of establishing Jedi Academy or High Council?
 
Hagi said:
You should have been around for the Nolan Batman threads, now those were a treat.
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say what you will about his films but nothing beats the nolan-hype threads. batgaf was GOAT.

everything since hasn't been as entertaining. all the shit posting, the memes, the posters etc.
 
I don't care what someone thinks about the trailer in terms of quality. People are and should be free to criticize, debate, and talk about their impressions and analysis whether they think it's crappy, mediocre, good, great, whatever. But there is some hot garbage about cultural significance getting thrown around that is basically objectively wrong.

I'll happily concede the point that this film will be as bad as the prequels for the sake of argument because it speaks to the cultural juggernaut that Star Wars is. Even a bad Star Wars film captures as much interest as Obama did during his presidential elections. That's absolutely insane. That doesn't happen solely because of marketing, you can't just "replicate" that. Battleship and John Carter anyone? How many failed would be action franchises have crumbled despite the immense marketing machine put behind them? You can't just manufacture cultural acceptance/significance on the scale that Star Wars commands. Even if you take a relatively successful franchise like Transformers, it can't even hold a candle to Star Wars.

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Iceternal said:
Yes so now you can go the fuck away and let us enjoy the hype without you ruining it for us.
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How insecure are you about how good a movie may or may not be that someone who thinks the trailer sucks derails your hype?

Daft_Cat said:
1. You have seen 2 shots featuring Harrison Ford in which he has spoken.

2. Real and organic feeling dialogue can also be poetic and weighty. Good dialogue does not simply mimic human speech. For an operatic, high-intensity story like Star Wars, it would feel incongruent to expect Linklater levels of naturalism (and even that sort of dialogue hardly captures the way people actually speak -- there'd be a lot more mumbling and stupid shit, for one).

3. Some of it did, sure. A lot of people found Star Trek's opening sequence in particular to be very emotional.
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2 shots of ford acting the same way he did in the last indie. "operatic, high-intensity story like Star Wars" Ok, I know Space Opera and all but the original star wars didn't have that dialog. The prequels did though,...

Brawndo Addict said:
I don't care what someone thinks about the trailer in terms of quality. People are and should be free to criticize, debate, and talk about their impressions and analysis whether they think it's crappy, mediocre, good, great, whatever. But there is some hot garbage about cultural significance getting thrown around that is basically objectively wrong.

I'll happily concede the point that this film will be as bad as the prequels for the sake of argument because it speaks to the cultural juggernaut that Star Wars is. Even a bad Star Wars film captures as much interest as Obama did during his presidential elections. That's absolutely insane. That doesn't happen solely because of marketing, you can't just 'replicate' that. Battleship and John Carter anyone? How many failed would be action franchises have crumbled despite the immense marketing machine put behind them? Even if you take a relatively successful franchise like Transformers, it can't even hold a candle to Star Wars.

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You guys keep banging on about this cultural event stuff. I've made my point 20 times over about that, we went back and forth on it. Whats important to me is a good movie, you guys can keep your cultural event
 
kurahador said:
Guess Luke decided to go on a solo path finding quest instead of establishing Jedi Academy or High Council?
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Luke Skywalker was on a solo path ever since the Battle of Hoth. He showed up during ROTJ on a battle cruiser for like a day to volunteer for a mission. Then left that mission where no one else knew where he was. Then he showed back up on Endor after the victory. Nobody but Han & Leia knew where Luke was.
 
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