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[Dead Man]

Jar Jar.

Can't be, nobody would cry over him.

 

[kurahador]

I hope Han will make a callbacks to this;

 

[BocoDragon]

Korea eh? Wonder what she'd think about the canon Korean webtoon adaptation of the OT.

Wow. Luke is so pretty. Haha.

 

[Atraveller]

I hope Han will make a callbacks to this;

https://youtu.be/lQDvsf5lAp0

 

[liquidtmd]

I hope Han will make a callbacks to this;

"HEY BRAAAH REMEMBER THE TIME WE BOTH WANTED TO FUCK LEIA AND YOU WERE GETTING FRISKY IN THAT MEDICAL BAY 30 YEARS AGO AND I ONLY GOT HER BECAUSE YOUR DAD TURNED UP ON HOTH WANTING TO KILL YOU, THEN SHE TURNED OUT TO BE YOUR SISTER"?

"Oh yeah, Good times man"!

 

[Chezzymann]

Have you ever studied war before the last 100 years? Drummers, bagpipes, bugles, trumpets, singing, sound blaring from helicopters - music and song has a long standing history with the human race as a way to rally troops, intimidate the enemy and serves as a reflection of the culture of the army.

The concept makes a ton of sense. It's a pretty damn interesting and out there way to incorporate a classic part of war culture but the concept of a vehicle blasting music itself is completely believable in the construct of the world being established.

No, you're not getting what I mean by stupid. Yeah it makes sense as the context of drummer, but the entire design, personality, and presentation is insane and stupid. In a good way.

 

[SlickShoesRUCrazy]

What are the chances that Kylo Ren and Rey are related? Totally flimsy, but since Luke and Leia's names both start with L, maybe same in this case?

 

[Septimus Prime]

What are the chances that Kylo Ren and Rey are related? Totally flimsy, but since Luke and Leia's names both start with L, maybe same in this case?

Kylo Rey?

 

[BuggyDClown]

What are the chances that Kylo Ren and Rey are related? Totally flimsy, but since Luke and Leia's names both start with L, maybe same in this case?

Of course they are going to be. Theres no way based on that trailer shes not lukes. Also kylo has vaders mask which could only have been taken from luke so shes probably his but more likely han and leias given his age vs reys and lukes vs hans

 

[Switch Back 9]

The cynic in me says the aging of the OT might have unpleasant effects. There was that one gaffer who did the same as you, and ended up sad because his gf made fun of it. Lmfao

My GF is 20, had never seen a Star Wars movie until we started dating.

If she hated them or thought they were silly, she's been keeping it under wraps for quite a while now. I thought she wouldn't enjoy them, because they're older and a bit dated, but she seemed entertained enough and didn't talk shit.

But she's also one of those people that feeds off the emotions of their partner, so when I'm super excited or fond of something it seems to rub off on her. Not sure, if viewed in a vacuum, what her true opinions of the films would be.

 

[BocoDragon]

What are the chances that Kylo Ren and Rey are related? Totally flimsy, but since Luke and Leia's names both start with L, maybe same in this case?

Note the way they are aligned on the poster... I think it's very possible.

 

[sphagnum]

Of course they are going to be. Theres no way based on that trailer shes not lukes. Also kylo has vaders mask which could only have been taken from luke so shes probably his but more likely han and leias given his age vs reys and lukes vs hans

Luke probably left Vader's armor to burn on the pyre at Endor.

 

[SlickShoesRUCrazy]

Kylo Rey?

Never saw Kylo as an actual name, but more like how all the sith had "Darth" before their name since the dude loves Vader.

 

[-Plasma Reus-]

I hope Han will make a callbacks to this;

The OT has its fare share of issues. Some of them equally as offensive as the PT.
This moment is bad, but what gets me worse is Ben Kenobi's habitual lying for the sake of convenience.

 

[sappyday]

Never saw Kylo as an actual name, but more like how all the sith had "Darth" before their name since the dude loves Vader.

Isn't the Ren part the actual part that he took from the group he was from?

 

[BocoDragon]

Isn't the Ren part the actual part that he took from the group he was from?

Yup. It seems to be that he is named Kylo, a knight of Ren.

 

[cdyhybrid]

My girlfriend heard I was hyped for this movie, and watched the trailer.

She was so intrigued, now she wants to watch the originals.

Guys... I'm pretty sure she doesn't know Darth Vader is Luke's father. She is from Korea, and doesn't have a nerdy bone in her body, and none of her friends do as well.

Cannot wait to play out this experiment...

Report back in with results.

Also, do it sooner rather than later - spoilers for the original will be everywhere as hype builds.

 

[SlickShoesRUCrazy]

Isn't the Ren part the actual part that he took from the group he was from?

Didn't know that, thanks.

 

[Steiner84]

awesome, got tickets for the 00:01 show on the 17th. This will be super sick!

 

[BocoDragon]

Report back in with results.

Also, do it sooner rather than later - spoilers for the original will be everywhere as hype builds.

True, good point. Although if she's made it this far... I can tell she isn't feeding on the information sources that would spoil her.

She's on tumblr, but it's like... interior design tumblr, fashion photography tumblr. No avengers gifs. No doctor who cosplay.

 

[Sutton Dagger]

Yup. It seems to be that he is named Kylo, a knight of Ren.

Who are the knight of Ren?

 

[BocoDragon]

Who are the knight of Ren?

These guys presumably:

I dunno.... dark side fanboys? I haven't spoiled myself to know yet.

 

[hooijdonk17]

Who are the knight of Ren?

They are the Knights who say.. REN!

 

[sappyday]

Who are the knight of Ren?

Presumably these

 

[Sutton Dagger]

These guys presumably:



I dunno.... dark side fanboys? I haven't spoiled myself to know yet.

They are the Knights who say.. REN!

Presumably these

So we aren't supposed to know anything about them yet?

 

[SomedayTheFire]

The thing that I don't like (im quick on this one but eh). will be that Leia, Han, Chewi, and maybe Luke won't be in the other episodes.. are they going to just kill them off?

I'm sad.

Luke was filming for VIII recently.

 

[hooijdonk17]

Luke was filming for VIII recently.

As I pointed out before,

Spoiler

Alec Guinness was filming for V

 

[SomedayTheFire]

As I pointed out before,

Spoiler

Alec Guinness was filming for V

and you've been making shit up all thread.

 

[Guy.brush]

So is Maz Kanata basically Ms. Exposition and basically telling the newcomers about a mysterious mcguffin and the knights of Ren?

 

[Dabanton]

Apparently there's a music-only version on the Disneyland facebook page.

Seems like they accidentally uploaded a version that only features surround channels as the audio.

It also has no end titles for some reason.

 

[BocoDragon]

So we aren't supposed to know anything about them yet?

Nope. There are people out there who have the full script, and they know everything. But from what's officially released, we just know there are Knights of Ren, Kylo is amongst them... and that's it.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

Yeah lot of people who exposed themselves to leaks that are being giant douchebags in this thread.

 

[DOWN]

Apparently there's a music-only version on the Disneyland facebook page.

Seems like they accidentally uploaded a version that only features surround channels as the audio.

It also has no end titles for some reason.

It's really cool like that actually so someone please make sure that I can still get to it when they've realized their mistake lol

 

[Ushojax]

What are the chances that Kylo Ren and Rey are related? Totally flimsy, but since Luke and Leia's names both start with L, maybe same in this case?

I haven't read the spoilers but you would assume that they are brother and sister, even the way they are positioned in the poster suggests that. If Luke has been gone for 30 years then you'd assume that they are Han and Leia's kids.

 

[neorej]

Who are the knight of Ren?

Descendants of the Knights Who Say Ni.

Spoiler

Supposedly, they are a in-group within The First Order who are devoted to the ways of Vader. IIRC they also have the badasses from The Raid in their ranks.

 

[Neverforget]

I didn't care to watch any trailer up until now and oh god was I right in doing so! I love this so much, I'm freaking exited for the movie.

 

[Mœbius]

VII - JJ Abrams
VIII - Rian Johnson
IX - Colin Trevorrow

It's like they are actually trying to mirror the directorial quality bar of the OT.

IV - Lucas (original, inspired, populist but blinkered approach to filming characters and technically not that gifted or brilliant as people think)
V - Kershner (Unique, off-beat, focused on character and dialogue interactions, free-form direction; clashes with studio approach, input, and editing)
VI - Marquand (Average director at best, end up having original director ghost directing pretty much the entire film)

Conclusion: JJ will probably ghost direct IX.

(Just in case it's not clear - I'm just kidding around.)

 

[shira]

I hope Han will make a callbacks to this;

Maybe they had twincest kids for a higher chance of Jedi babies.

 

[JoeInky]

So we aren't supposed to know anything about them yet?

Not yet, just that they're an order of knight's, not sith or anything, who Kylo takes his name from and is presumably the leader of given the fact that he wields a lightsaber whereas the others have "normal" weapons.

 

[PdotMichael]

It's like they are actually trying to mirror the directorial quality bar of the OT.

IV - Lucas (original, inspired, populist but blinkered approach to filming characters and technically not that gifted or brilliant as people think)
V - Kershner (Unique, off-beat, focused on character and dialogue interactions, free-form direction; clashes with studio approach, input, and editing)
VI - Marquand (Average director at best, end up having original director ghost directing pretty much the entire film)

Conclusion: JJ will probably ghost direct IX.

(Just in case it's not clear - I'm just kidding around.)

What does that even mean?

 

[hooijdonk17]

There's one thing that kind of bugs me about this trailer, something that makes it very un-Star Wars-y. There is not a single alien in the whole trailer, aside from Chewie in a single scene. All the resistance ground crew and pilots in the trailer are humans.

I have a feeling that the Resistance vs First Order thing has changed the scope of the war. The Empire is no more, and apparently alien planets, sectors and whatnot have broken off completely. It seems to have gone from a Rebel Alliance of all races against a humanocentric fascist Empire to a human civil war story of liberalist Resistance vs authoritarian First Order where both sides are human.

This is.. different to say the least. And it kind of explains

Spoiler

why Luke would kind of step aside and away from the fight, he is not a political figure and does not want to be. He only gets involved when it's discovered that the First Order has a galaxy threatening weapon/agenda.

 

[jelly]

I know it's probably not expected but hasn't everyone overlooked that Leia has the force as well and a good 30 years to develop it just because it's Carrie Fisher. Whether she has or not who knows.

 

[Peru]

I don't like Colin Trevorrow either but the tone will be set with this movie, the script will be worked on by other people, the producers, executive team at Lucasfilm will decide direction, character trajectories, Kennedy will meddle with everything. Let me pull out my old Bond examples, like Martin Campbell - a middle-of-the-road director if there ever was one, who did GoldenEye - a camp, super silly, super fun Bond and later Casino Royale, hailed by most as a fully successful reboot. Why? Two completely different movies in one franchise, by one director. Because Bond has long been operated much like Lucasfilm now operates Star Wars - producers and creative teams above directors in the hierarchy very much involved - only Lucasfilm takes it further with its story group.

 

[Mœbius]

What does that even mean?

Just that both Lucas and JJ are nowhere near as great as most people give them credit for. They are both good at mimicking styles. Lucas was inspired in that he mimicked the old style of Saturday morning adventures and used classic / basic mythic storytelling elements but told them with the aid of new technologies and (thanks to the editing of his ex-wife) did so in a dynamic way, at a time when movies were quite dark and cynical. Similarly, JJ is great at mimicking that style of directors from the Lucas and Spielberg era and playing on those emotional and nostalgic beats, without really adding anything meaningful or authentic himself. They are good, not great was the point I was making. It's just an opinion; and as I said - I wasn't being very serious about it.

 

[Dead Man]

That whole "the Jedi and Sith are mythical" 30 years after ROTJ is not the worst timeline offender if you count the ones done by the prequel trilogy.

I think the big fuckup in time continuity actually already happened with the prequels and that they were placed only 18 years before ANH, making Ben Kenobi 56 years old.
The story demands the prequel story to happen somewhat close to ANH because of Luke and Leia's birth and Anakin's fall but it was just too close for my liking.
Anakin could have been way older by the time he had kids and him "fighting in the Clone Wars" with Ben Kenobi could have happened way before. When Luke spoke of the clone wars it always felt like Obi Wan was a 100 year old wizard and had seen some mythical shit. In reality the Clone Wars ended 18 years before.
That is like a kid today asking their uncle if they fought in Afghanistan.
If only the Clone Wars would have been what was originally envisioned..

Indeed. The problem is not 6-7, the problem is the proximity of 1-3. If the Jedi had been fading for a couple centuries, due to the influence of the dark side or just unexplained, then they get eradicated then 50-100 after that Luke and Leia are born the timeline becomes pretty plausible I think. They feel consistent between ANH and this, unless we assume Luke publicises his acts. Which would be out of character, to me.

I know it's probably not expected but hasn't everyone overlooked that Leia has the force as well and a good 30 years to develop it just because it's Carrie Fisher. Whether she has or not who knows.

Seems if she has, it hasn't been her focus. Be cool to see her suddenly kick some arse with a sabre though

 

[Yautja_Warrior]

I'm personally looking forward to a Monty Python spin off, The Knights of Ren vs The Knights That Say Ni, now that would be a movie to watch lol.

 

[neorej]

Indeed. The problem is not 6-7, the problem is the proximity of 1-3. If the Jedi had been fading for a couple centuries, due to the influence of the dark side or just unexplained, then they get eradicated then 50-100 after that Luke and Leia are born the timeline becomes pretty plausible I think. They feel consistent between ANH and this, unless we assume Luke publicises his acts. Which would be out of character, to me.

Yup, the Jedi go from a revered counsil in the galaxy to some mystical cult only heard of through legends in the span of a few decades. Really does not make sense at all.

 

[Metalmarc]

There's one thing that kind of bugs me about this trailer, something that makes it very un-Star Wars-y. There is not a single alien in the whole trailer, aside from Chewie in a single scene. All the resistance ground crew and pilots in the trailer are humans.

I have a feeling that the Resistance vs First Order thing has changed the scope of the war. The Empire is no more, and apparently alien planets, sectors and whatnot have broken off completely. It seems to have gone from a Rebel Alliance of all races against a humanocentric fascist Empire to a human civil war story of liberalist Resistance vs authoritarian First Order where both sides are human.

This is.. different to say the least. And it kind of explains

Spoiler

why Luke would kind of step aside and away from the fight, he is not a political figure and does not want to be. He only gets involved when it's discovered that the First Order has a galaxy threatening weapon/agenda.

There are going to be Aliens in the film though, and I think there is one in the trailer look to the right of the scene of poe, where poe pats Finn on the shoulder, also it may be Maz Kanatas voice that asks Rey who she is, and finally for all we know one of the Knights of Ren, could be Alien under their Masks



Bonus

Also I think Luke is in the Trailer, if its him putting his hand on R2

 

[efyu_lemonardo]

I've said it before, but I really want a new alien character as iconic as Chewie... Doesn't sound like there will be such a character in this film.

 

[Branduil]

There's one thing that kind of bugs me about this trailer, something that makes it very un-Star Wars-y. There is not a single alien in the whole trailer, aside from Chewie in a single scene. All the resistance ground crew and pilots in the trailer are humans.

I have a feeling that the Resistance vs First Order thing has changed the scope of the war. The Empire is no more, and apparently alien planets, sectors and whatnot have broken off completely. It seems to have gone from a Rebel Alliance of all races against a humanocentric fascist Empire to a human civil war story of liberalist Resistance vs authoritarian First Order where both sides are human.

This is.. different to say the least. And it kind of explains

Spoiler

why Luke would kind of step aside and away from the fight, he is not a political figure and does not want to be. He only gets involved when it's discovered that the First Order has a galaxy threatening weapon/agenda.

Well, I mean, how many important characters in the original trilogy were aliens? It's always been a story about humans, with some aliens and droids thrown in for flavor.

We know there are a variety of aliens in this film as well, they just haven't been featured in the trailers, which have focused on the new human characters.