peanutbutterlatte
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As long as it's not making a walk-on bounty hunter character massively integral to the history of the lore, it'll seem conservative by comparison.
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As long as it's not making a walk-on bounty hunter character massively integral to the history of the lore, it'll seem conservative by comparison.
Man, dont forget that there are letters in the opening
Well she looks very upset in any case, or worried.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
somewhere between Jurassic "the first one was awesome remember that" World and Star Trek "remember Wrath of Khan tho" Into Darkness
brandonh83
Banned
I think it'll be somewhere between Star Wars Episode VI and Star Wars Episode VIII.
not really calling it stupid tho
Setting up the former cast and locations is obvious it's building on a foundation that's already there. Im asking do you see it a passing of a torch in terms of story or will it still be the big 3 overshadowing the rest. Or 2 because Im assuming Luke will have a small amount of screen time. Then again I havn't read or looked into the spoilers shit.
TheDinoman
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Could it be...?
DrForester
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There's no crack in her trailer.
brandonh83
Banned
Think the focus will be on the new characters. The old ones are there logically but they're not the main characters. It seems like Han is a big character and Chewbacca will be there naturally but they're not going to be overshadowed. In the trailer it introduces and sets up Rey as the new main character followed by Finn.
Warner is really pushing Batman in every movie possible
Could it be...?
I originally thought of it being a Jurassic World approach on it as well. Idk just a thought that hit me with the start of the marketing machine starting up in a month or so and how they would approach it.
What if Kylo Ren is Boba Fett's son?
I am really looking forward to getting more of this guy's backstory in Star Wars: Rogue One.
WadiumArcadium
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Nah, that would be the guy with a Mandalorian helmet in the Knights of Ren shot.
I just hope it wont be as bad as JW.
For those saying "oh noes too similar! It has people in it", here are some similarities to A NEW HOPE.
Some of it is spoiler, some is obvious from just watching the trailers. I haven't read the full synopsis or anything, so might not be all.
Some of it is spoiler, some is obvious from just watching the trailers. I haven't read the full synopsis or anything, so might not be all.
- hero is an 18year old "no one" (who will turn out to be related to the Vader character later) on a backwater desert planet, wants to see the bright galaxy
- hero by accident gets ahold of an item the Vader character/Empire wants back.
- Imperial stormtroopers (coming from a Star Destroyer) land on the desert planet and scorch a place in search of this something they want (DS plans/Luke's light saber)
- hero seeks out guidance by an old veteran. (Obi Wan/Max von Sydow)
- there will be a mystical "introduction to the Force" scene with the mentor similar to Ben Kenobi's hut but this time featuring some talk about the lightsaber crystal)
- Von Sydow probably dies at the village burning, similar to how Aunt Beru and Uncle Owen died for Luke
- they go to a cantina (!), meet up with Han Solo and Chewie
- they escape in the Millennium Falcon
- they get chased by Imperials.
- they have to infiltrate the Empire stronghold superweapon which can destroy planets/solar systems
- there will be "you may fire when ready" demonstration of said super weapon
- there is an Admiral Tarkin character
- there is a Darth Sidious character pulling strings who will stay in the background in this one and come forward in the next.
- there is a Boba Fett type character
- there is a cute R2 type character
- they meet up at the rebel base shortly before the final battle
- there is a climactic aerial battle above the Empire stronghold
What is fresh is the Finn character being an ex-Stormtrooper that joins up with the heroes and (probably) Leia pointing our heroes towards Luke's whereabouts and the cliffhangar ending of finding him.
There also seems to be a battle around the rebel base/Luke's hideout location which will be more like ESB or ROTJ in that regard.
- hero by accident gets ahold of an item the Vader character/Empire wants back.
- Imperial stormtroopers (coming from a Star Destroyer) land on the desert planet and scorch a place in search of this something they want (DS plans/Luke's light saber)
- hero seeks out guidance by an old veteran. (Obi Wan/Max von Sydow)
- there will be a mystical "introduction to the Force" scene with the mentor similar to Ben Kenobi's hut but this time featuring some talk about the lightsaber crystal)
- Von Sydow probably dies at the village burning, similar to how Aunt Beru and Uncle Owen died for Luke
- they go to a cantina (!), meet up with Han Solo and Chewie
- they escape in the Millennium Falcon
- they get chased by Imperials.
- they have to infiltrate the Empire stronghold superweapon which can destroy planets/solar systems
- there will be "you may fire when ready" demonstration of said super weapon
- there is an Admiral Tarkin character
- there is a Darth Sidious character pulling strings who will stay in the background in this one and come forward in the next.
- there is a Boba Fett type character
- there is a cute R2 type character
- they meet up at the rebel base shortly before the final battle
- there is a climactic aerial battle above the Empire stronghold
What is fresh is the Finn character being an ex-Stormtrooper that joins up with the heroes and (probably) Leia pointing our heroes towards Luke's whereabouts and the cliffhangar ending of finding him.
There also seems to be a battle around the rebel base/Luke's hideout location which will be more like ESB or ROTJ in that regard.
brandonh83
Banned
Sequels are... sequels. Continuations. It's fine. I still don't agree with the Jurassic World nostalgia pandering accusations, the old themes showed up like 3-4 times in a 75+ minute soundtrack and the story was about hybrids and trained raptors. It's almost nothing like the original except it has dinosaurs in a theme park, and even that was different as this one was working. The shooting style wasn't even similar and they looked tonally very different. So I really don't agree at all with the accusations but people will see anything familiar and start pointing fingers, especially if they're seeing everything through a negativity viewfinder.
There are callbacks but it doesn't mean the entire picture is relying on nostalgia. They went back to the first island and I would have been livid if they didn't show the old visitor's center, even if just briefly, and it was very brief. I also recall a lot of people screaming about how Giacchino better bring back the old themes, or else! and when he did, even if just a handful of times, it gets criticized. I just don't think it's a very good argument and just adds more negative jack shit to a conversation. I'm not accusing you of that, you're obviously fine with it as you noted, but it's becoming a huge pet peeve of mine. This is Episode 7, not a spinoff or something, old shit shall return!
People are welcome to their thoughts but if all people do is whine about nostalgia pandering, that's just... unfortunate. It's not a very thrilling or intellectual conversation. Just my thoughts, I'm not attacking anyone, I'd just like to see better approaches to criticism. It feels very last straw to me.
WadiumArcadium
Member
You probably should have marked that with spoilers before posting it.
Allonym
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Did you notice his lightsaber's hilt like grew or something lol or maybe it was the lighting but it definitely looked like it expanded.
brandonh83
Banned
See what nostalgia pandering criticism led to? Spoilers out the fuckin' wazoo! Luckily tagged before I got the chance though.
WadiumArcadium
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Thankfully I didn't read it.
if it was up to me I would have had a dream sequence in JW with a talking raptor
ViewtifulJC
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ALAN
Spiritreaver
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Why GAF doesn't have a crash course on spoilers at this point is beyond me.
brandonh83
Banned
Dream or not, dumb as hell lol. Like... seriously
WadiumArcadium
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I would love for it to be the older brother on the ship heading there to have the exact same dream and same pitched ALAN delivery
See that's a textbook callback that would have sold tickets
brandonh83
Banned
brandonh83
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George Oscar Bluth II
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BRANDON
If anything, your post made people do this.
WadiumArcadium
Member
If anything, your post made people do this.
That's actually pretty close to what I must have looked like.
Remember all the complaining about Kylo's lightsaber?
I still think it would be more menacing if it were JUST the imperfect beam. That's enough to look super menacing. The hilt still just looks silly. Also in every shot so far it just happens to be parallel to the camera so the viewer sees it's best view, makes it look super stupid. Hope it's not like that for every shot it's in. Doesn't look natural.
brandonh83
Banned
I'll be too busy owning the disc and later on 4K to give a shit but yay go Canada
My stance on the saber is that it's both a) Kylo trying to make it cool and b) Kylo trying to make it cool, dude almost seems like a cartoon villain to be honest, worshipping helmets of dudes that he didn't understand, wearing that mask for no reason other to... look cool, etc. I mean I don't think this is a flaw or criticism, just that the guy is kind of a dumbass.
Discotheque
Banned
Could it be...?
His ship looks like a batwing or something. This film is further pushing the dark side's superior style tbh.
WadiumArcadium
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Only read 3/4 so far but yeah, it's a pretty fun post-Jedi story. #3 was really great. I think it could have benefited from more than four issues though.
TheDinoman
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Remember all the complaining about Kylo's lightsaber?
The hilt only bothered me at first mainly because it just kinda reminded me of all the gimmicky lightsaber variations found in the EU.
The EU has a guy with lightsabers coming out of his knees, for crying out loud.
Fine Ham Abounds
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Right now I'm assuming there will be cameos of MacGregor as Obiwan and maybe even that wooden Canadian dude as Anakin's ghost, and the entire plot will be basically a rehash of ANH, both of which will piss off OT fans hoping this won't suck. I do not expect cameos of Jar Jar. So somewhere in there is the middle ground.
Spiritreaver
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+1 to this. "Fun" is pretty accurate considering the scenarios that are presented (that Leia story).
While we're on the subject, I've been on the fence over Aftermath for a while. Anyone have thoughts on that?
That's because you fill the blanks with your imagination now. It gets better after rewatch just cause.
Octavianus
Banned
Remember all the complaining about Kylo's lightsaber?
Yeah I do. It still fucking dumb.
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