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[Scrabble]

My feeling is: black people have made it very clear they'd appreciate if you don't wear black face.

So even if you don't get it or don't totally agree: why disrespect black people in this way? Like, what, it was really important that your costume be 100% accurate?

Where are all these black people saying how horribly offensive it is? Because the overwhelming majority of the time it's upper middle class white people trying to look after black people by calling other white's racist whenever this comes up. Out in the real world this seems like an issue where no one really gives a shit: blacks, whites, asians, etc don't give a damn what you dress as where I live. Not one time in the real world has anyone I've ever spoken to, of many various backgrounds no less, told me they were offended by a Halloween costume.

It's a single day out of the whole year where you're expected to dress up as someone you're not, and the fact that over a hundred years ago it was racist to paint your face black doesn't make it so today. It's not the 1800's and early 1900's anymore, it's fuckin 2015 for christ sake. How much longer till it's deemed okay? This kid isn't trying to appropriate black culture any more than a white person dressing as Dracula is trying to authentically appropriate Romanian culture.

 

[Slayven]

My mind if full of fuck, did he just say black people need to fall back because Asians "got over it".

Jesus fucking Christ, how can shit on one race and backhand compliment another.


And I am a Race Baiter

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

Jeez I drive home from work for 30 minutes and this thread got crazy stupid.

 

[Maxim726X]

Oh boy. I'm out.

 

[Sai-kun]

Where are all these black people saying how horribly offensive it is? Because the overwhelming majority of the time it's upper middle class white people trying to look after black people by calling other white's racist whenever this comes up. Out in the real world this seems like an issue where no one really gives a shit: blacks, whites, asians, etc don't give a damn what you dress as where I live. Not one time in the real world has anyone I've ever spoken to, of many various backgrounds no less, told me they were offended by a Halloween costume.

It's a single day out of the whole year where you're expected to dress up as someone you're not, and the fact that over a hundred years ago it was racist to paint your face black doesn't make it so today. It's not the 1800's and early 1900's anymore, it's fuckin 2015 for christ sake. How much longer till it's deemed okay? This kid isn't trying to appropriate black culture any more than a white person dressing as Dracula is trying to authentically appropriate Romanian culture.

um

do we need to run a census of this thread

because i 100% guarantee it aint just white folks 'looking after' black people in here

have u read this thread mr

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

Err... You are aware you just stereotyped an entire race? You are aware what that makes you?

You don't understand systemic racism. Read up.

http://newjimcrow.com

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Where are all these black people saying how horribly offensive it is?.

In the thread you're reading.

Maybe you're just assuming they're white people with their capes on, but I assure you - there are currently, right now, IN THIS VERY THREAD, black people posting about how fucked up blackface is.

 

[Slayven]

"Just get over it"
"Calm down"
"Let me tell you what racism really is"
"Let it go"
"Japanese people aren't salty about internment camps"

Ed Harris in the Abyss never dived this deep.

Bravo on the movie reference

 

[Samara]

I've heard the '' it's just to honor said person. There is no bad intent''

This was on TV 2 years ago. I've heard that it was no different last year. This is French Canadian TV

Even children don't need to know that if someone has long blue dress and a white french braid (and is a person of color) they'll know that it's Elsa. Reminds me of that a-hole who made a remark on the native american child.

There is no need to paint one's skin to be someone famous or known. Someone's skin is not a costume.

 

[Bronx-Man]

Where are all these black people saying how horribly offensive it is?

So you're just confirming to the rest of us that you have read absolutely nothing in this thread, correct?

 

[metalslimer]

Where are all these black people saying how horribly offensive it is? Because the overwhelming majority of the time it's upper middle class white people trying to look after black people by calling other white's racist whenever this comes up. Out in the real world this seems like an issue where no one really gives a shit: blacks, whites, asians, etc don't give a damn what you dress as where I live. Not one time in the real world has anyone I've ever spoken to, of many various backgrounds no less, told me they were offended by a Halloween costume.

It's a single day out of the whole year where you're expected to dress up as someone you're not, and the fact that over a hundred years ago it was racist to paint your face black doesn't make it so today. It's not the 1800's and early 1900's anymore, it's fuckin 2015 for christ sake. How much longer till it's deemed okay? This kid isn't trying to appropriate black culture any more than a white person dressing as Dracula is trying to authentically appropriate Romanian culture.

Early 1900s? No wonder people are so ignorant when they forget how short time ago when lynching was a regular occurrence. Also I'm glad the black people where you live are so ok with black face

 

[User1608]

Of course we have people going "but so and so have done it, what's the problem ethnic/racial minority?" Without fail. This is disgusting and an obvious caricature of black people, come on.

 

[atr0cious]

Where are all these black people saying how horribly offensive it is? Because the overwhelming majority of the time it's upper middle class white people trying to look after black people by calling other white's racist whenever this comes up. Out in the real world this seems like an issue where no one really gives a shit: blacks, whites, asians, etc don't give a damn what you dress as where I live. Not one time in the real world has anyone I've ever spoken to, of many various backgrounds no less, told me they were offended by a Halloween costume.

It's a single day out of the whole year where you're expected to dress up as someone you're not, and the fact that over a hundred years ago it was racist to paint your face black doesn't make it so today. It's not the 1800's and early 1900's anymore, it's fuckin 2015 for christ sake. How much longer till it's deemed okay? This kid isn't trying to appropriate black culture any more than a white person dressing as Dracula is trying to authentically appropriate Romanian culture.

Hi, there's a few of us throughout the thread saying it now. My mom went to a segregated school FYI, and I've got a proper slave name for my first name, so it's kind of hard to forget this shit. Sorry not sorry.

 

[Crumpet Trumpet]

Where are all these black people saying how horribly offensive it is? Because the overwhelming majority of the time it's upper middle class white people trying to look after black people by calling other white's racist whenever this comes up. Out in the real world this seems like an issue where no one really gives a shit: blacks, whites, asians, etc don't give a damn what you dress as where I live. Not one time in the real world has anyone I've ever spoken to, of many various backgrounds no less, told me they were offended by a Halloween costume.

It's a single day out of the whole year where you're expected to dress up as someone you're not, and the fact that over a hundred years ago it was racist to paint your face black doesn't make it so today. It's not the 1800's and early 1900's anymore, it's fuckin 2015 for christ sake. How much longer till it's deemed okay? This kid isn't trying to appropriate black culture any more than a white person dressing as Dracula is trying to authentically appropriate Romanian culture.

yes, only white people have political beliefs. only white people talk about blackface

 

[IceDoesntHelp]

You seem angrier than anyone else here
Also I think a general good rule of thumb is that if something was extremely offensive one day being on Halloween does not make that thing suddenly ok.

wow it seems like this is a really important issue to you

You sound upset

I'm not angry or upset. Its not a really important issue to me, its just everyone always makes this a big deal.

Like its okay to dress at Hitler, or any terrible dictator, or to dress up as anything else offensive, but when it comes to this everyone loses their minds.

But thats just like me shitty opinion, so I'll just show myself out.

I asked you earlier about what you thought about people dressing up as Zwarte Piet for St. Nicholas' Eve. People use the exact same excuse for that.

Who the fuck is that anyway?

I know right?!

black people should just get over being paraded in character as niggers, jiggaboos, blackies, alligator bait, coons, etc!

I mean sure, youve been made throughout modern history to feel worthless and hate your own image, but just get over it!

Holy shit this is what I mean, calm down. It's halloween, dressing up as a Kanye West isn't even that racist, I don't get it.

 

[Mael]

Where are all these black people saying how horribly offensive it is? Because the overwhelming majority of the time it's upper middle class white people trying to look after black people by calling other white's racist whenever this comes up.

GAF is a white only club confirmed.

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

Do some of you realize how you sound placing Halloween costumes higher in importance over the perspectives and history of an entire race?

 

[Tain]

Err... You are aware you just stereotyped an entire race? You are aware what that makes you?

did you feel like you were dropping a bombshell with this gem?

 

[marrec]

I'm not angry or upset. Its not a really important issue to me, its just everyone always makes this a big deal.

Like its okay to dress at Hitler, or any terrible dictator, or to dress up as anything else offensive, but when it comes to this everyone loses their minds.

But thats just like me shitty opinion, so I'll just show myself out.

People have been trying to explain it though, if you don't get it at this point then it's on you not them.

 

[metalslimer]

I'm not angry or upset. Its not a really important issue to me, its just everyone always makes this a big deal.

Like its okay to dress at Hitler, or any terrible dictator, or to dress up as anything else offensive, but when it comes to this everyone loses their minds.

But thats just like me shitty opinion, so I'll just show myself out.

Who the fuck is that anyway?

Who in the world told you it was ok to dress as hitler

Dear lord I always forget how terrible these threads are. Don't give a fuck about people's opinions to where a damn costume

 

[jWILL253]

Bitchmade fuckery.

If you don't hop the entire fuckouttahere...

 

[fuzzyreactor]

Quoted for truth.

Also still perpetually amazed by people who argue and then clarify that they aren't racist. Guess what, babes? If you're white in America you're a little racist. You were raised that way, in that culture. Accept it, think about it, and stop arguing for friggen flexibility and maybe listen instead.

lol

shit post

 

[Slayven]

Do some of you realize how you sound placing Halloween costumes higher in importance over the perspectives and history of an entire race?

To some people telling them "no" is the worse then any other atrocity on earth.

 

[Veritigo_X]

Who the fuck is that anyway?

I guess I'll just google that for you then...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zwarte_Piet

 

[BHZ Mayor]

Serious question: at some point, will black people let it go? Maybe 300 years from now?

Asian people were brought here and exploited as slaves to build America's railways and as slave labor in gold mines.

There has been a history of yellow-face (e.g. The King and I) as well not to mention the continued white-washing of Asian roles in movies (e.g. Avatar, GITS, etc.) Asians generally continue to be portrayed as feminine, nerdy; they are rarely featured outside of martial arts films.

I'm not salty about it at all. My sister isn't. My mom isn't. I dunno, at some level, you gotta just it go.

Americans mocked Japanese people during WWII, rounded Japanese Americans up and put them in a camp, dropped two atomic bombs on Japan. The Japanese don't seem that salty about it.

Even if you look at China and Japan and the atrocities carried out during WWII including the Rape of Nanjing. Despite all of that, China is Japan's largest trading partner. At some point, you just gotta let it go, IMO.

Or, and I'm just throwing this out there, I know it's crazy. People could "let go" of being racist.

 

[soundahfekz]

this thread has basically become "Can u lend a nigga a pencil?"

 

[Mael]

yes, only white people have political beliefs. only white people talk about blackface

Some of my friends certainly wished it was this way lol.
(I am VERY a political minded guy)

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

It's a single day out of the whole year where you're expected to dress up as someone you're not, and the fact that over a hundred years ago it was racist to paint your face black doesn't make it so today.

I am baffled at this.

Is it really that important to you that people should be able to dress in blackface because it's Halloween?

 

[Bronx-Man]

I can already tell this year's Zwarte Piet thread is gonna be one for the ages.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Its not a really important issue to me, its just everyone always makes this a big deal.

But you came in here for some specific reason though, right? So it's important enough to do that. And there's a possibility for you to maybe get an idea as to why it's important to other people. So you're in here, and the possibility you can learn from this is right there, but instead, you wanna fight it. So you took time out of your day to enter a discussion on a topic that isn't important to you specifically to swat at the potential for greater understanding of any sort, and then get hurt/confused when your presence isn't particularly welcomed anymore.

What about any of that makes any sense to you?

 

[marrec]

To some people telling them "no" is the worse then any other atrocity on earth.

Or telling them that they've been participating in an action that is racist.

So they have to defend that action with their lives because they're making the leap between "I was previously okay with this racist thing" and "I'm racist".

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

Like its okay to dress at Hitler, or any terrible dictator, or to dress up as anything else offensive, but when it comes to this everyone loses their minds.

I'm realizing you're not only ignorant when it comes to black history; you actually just don't seem to follow anything going on in the world at all.

 

[Newline]

Oh for fucks sake. Does anyone read anymore? You're in a thread where people are telling exactly why it IS offensive.
What you THINK is offensive is not consequential.




Yes.

If you're just going to say yes without any follow up, then I'll just say you're being far too sensitive. There was nothing racist in Cloud Atlas, all cultures were handled with respect, there was no mockery or I'll will displayed at any time. People not liking something doesn't justify it as being racist.

 

[Crumpet Trumpet]

Its not a really important issue to me

we know

 

[Camjo-Z]

For me, the intent is what matters. If the guy was honestly thinking "hey, I'd look more like Kanye if I painted my skin" rather than "lol blackface!!" then I don't have a problem with it.

 

[Floridian]

"It's just halloween, get over it. Actors like Robert Downey did it too".

No. Just no.

 

[soundahfekz]

For me, the intent is what matters. If the guy was honestly thinking "hey, I'd look more like Kanye if I painted my skin" rather than "lol blackface!!" then I don't have a problem with it.

just curious, are you black?

 

[PInk Tape]

Serious question: at some point, will black people let it go? Maybe 300 years from now?

Asian people were brought here and exploited as slaves to build America's railways and as slave labor in gold mines.

There has been a history of yellow-face (e.g. The King and I) as well not to mention the continued white-washing of Asian roles in movies (e.g. Avatar, GITS, etc.) Asians generally continue to be portrayed as feminine, nerdy; they are rarely featured outside of martial arts films.

I'm not salty about it at all. My sister isn't. My mom isn't. I dunno, at some level, you gotta just it go.

Americans mocked Japanese people during WWII, rounded Japanese Americans up and put them in a camp, dropped two atomic bombs on Japan. The Japanese don't seem that salty about it.

Even if you look at China and Japan and the atrocities carried out during WWII including the Rape of Nanjing. Despite all of that, China is Japan's largest trading partner. At some point, you just gotta let it go, IMO.

Holy shit, I need a drink after reading this.

 

[Sai-kun]

I'm not angry or upset. Its not a really important issue to me, its just everyone always makes this a big deal.

Like its okay to dress at Hitler, or any terrible dictator, or to dress up as anything else offensive, but when it comes to this everyone loses their minds.

But thats just like me shitty opinion, so I'll just show myself out.

Who the fuck is that anyway?



Holy shit this is what I mean, calm down. It's halloween, dressing up as a Kanye West isn't even that racist, I don't get it.

i thought users had to be 13 or older to join gaf?

 

[SilentRacoon]

Serious question: at some point, will black people let it go? Maybe 300 years from now?

Jesus...

 

[Gentleman Jack]

I am baffled at this.

Is it really that important to you that people should be able to dress in blackface because it's Halloween?

Surely you didn't expect it to go any other way?

2013, Exhibit A
2013, Exhibit B
2013, Exhibit C
2014
2014, Exhibit B

And that's without touching Zwarte Piet threads.

 

[JDSN]

I really dont get how people can talk about an overreactive society while at the same time acting like a crying angry baby online.

 

[Opto]

I came in for a fun round of mocking the racists and... I didn't get what I wanted

 

[Poohblaster]

I forgot that Halloween was like that day in The Purge where everything goes and we just forget about it the day after.

I'm going to send dog poo through my bank's pneumatic tube for the lols and cause Halloween.

 

[Newline]

just curious, are you black?

Why does that matter, can the man not use empathy? I agree with him.

 

[Crumpet Trumpet]

I came in for a fun round of mocking the racists and... I didn't get what I wanted

im having fun

 

[marrec]

For me, the intent is what matters. If the guy was honestly thinking "hey, I'd look more like Kanye if I painted my skin" rather than "lol blackface!!" then I don't have a problem with it.

The person may not be intending to come off as insensitive but their intention doesn't really matter in a case like this because they may be completely ignorant.

Specifically with Halloween or Cosplay I think it's more important as a measure of how the person perceives the character they're playing. Characters to imitate are rarely defined specifically by race and Kanye is no exception. He has 1,000 other qualities to imitate BEFORE his skin color.

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

Surely you didn't expect it to go any other way?

2013, Exhibit A
2013, Exhibit B
2013, Exhibit C
2014
2014, Exhibit B

And that's without touching Zwarte Piet threads.

Thanks for this convenient compilation

 

[BlackGoku03]

Where are all these black people saying how horribly offensive it is? Because the overwhelming majority of the time it's upper middle class white people trying to look after black people by calling other white's racist whenever this comes up. Out in the real world this seems like an issue where no one really gives a shit: blacks, whites, asians, etc don't give a damn what you dress as where I live. Not one time in the real world has anyone I've ever spoken to, of many various backgrounds no less, told me they were offended by a Halloween costume.

It's a single day out of the whole year where you're expected to dress up as someone you're not, and the fact that over a hundred years ago it was racist to paint your face black doesn't make it so today. It's not the 1800's and early 1900's anymore, it's fuckin 2015 for christ sake. How much longer till it's deemed okay? This kid isn't trying to appropriate black culture any more than a white person dressing as Dracula is trying to authentically appropriate Romanian culture.

Here's one right here.

I find it terrible and in poor taste. If I saw him at a party, I'd leave after making him feel stupid.

 

[Sai-kun]

Why does that matter, can the man not use empathy? I agree with him.

if he's not black... honestly his opinions on how offensive blackface or in what situations he sees it as 'okay' don't really matter as much