Man does black face for Kanye West costume because this shit will never end

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Yes. Some things should be a given. But just because we think they should doesnt mean they are. Education is truly powerful, even on the internet.

I wish I could find it again, but there is a good book out there written by a black woman who met with KKK members regularly to interview and discuss. By the end of the book one member even turned his robes into her and quit the KKK. I don't think we have a shot at having such a profound impact on GAF, nut I also don't think we're dealing with any KKK level racists here either.

It's actually much easier to deal with and educate people like that because they are up front about what they believe and feel, and are very often simply uneducated and/or unexposed to different people and information. It's the ones who tell themselves that they're progressive while suggesting that the people getting shit on should just let it go so everyone else can keep having fun.
 

Interfectum

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I personally find it hilarious people find this offensive. Bad costume? yes. racist? lol

People amaze me

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I personally find it hilarious people find this offensive. Bad costume? yes. racist? lol

People amaze me

Its the history of the black facing.
At least in the US it is very clearly racist. In other country where the black facing doesn't have a racist history its a different case in my opinion, but in the US its obvious.

What I always wondered is why people weren't outraged by black faced Robert Downey Jr. in Tropic Thunder.
 
Its the history of the black facing.
At least in the US it is very clearly racist. In other country where the black facing doesn't have a racist history its a different case in my opinion, but in the US its obvious.

What I always wondered is why people weren't outraged by black faced Robert Downey Jr. in Tropic Thunder.

Probably because they watched the movie
 

Doc_Drop

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Holy shit at the roundabouts this thread is riding in. Do people really have such a short attention span that they can't read the thread before getting involved?

For the record, can any Europeans stop lumping the UK in your "this isn't a thing in Europe". It has quite clearly been stated, and should be understood, that there is a history of blackface/gollywogs being a thing in the UK and that it is not OK in the slightest. We definitely have a large collection of racists here, whether diet/fullblown/closet/whatever, but this shit doesn't fly here and if it does you're hanging out with racists.
 

Nabs

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Its the history of the black facing.
At least in the US it is very clearly racist. In other country where the black facing doesn't have a racist history its a different case in my opinion, but in the US its obvious.

What I always wondered is why people weren't outraged by black faced Robert Downey Jr. in Tropic Thunder.

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Herbs

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Its the history of the black facing.
At least in the US it is very clearly racist. In other country where the black facing doesn't have a racist history its a different case in my opinion, but in the US its obvious.

What I always wondered is why people weren't outraged by black faced Robert Downey Jr. in Tropic Thunder.

you forgot to post the RDJ pic so we know what you are talking about.
 

Alucrid

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Its the history of the black facing.
At least in the US it is very clearly racist. In other country where the black facing doesn't have a racist history its a different case in my opinion, but in the US its obvious.

What I always wondered is why people weren't outraged by black faced Robert Downey Jr. in Tropic Thunder.
I can't tell what is and isn't a joke now
 

Bronx-Man

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Its the history of the black facing.
At least in the US it is very clearly racist. In other country where the black facing doesn't have a racist history its a different case in my opinion, but in the US its obvious.

What I always wondered is why people weren't outraged by black faced Robert Downey Jr. in Tropic Thunder.
The whole point of RDJ's character in Tropic Thunder is that he's such an out-of-touch dumbass that he doesn't realize how ridiculous that getting blackface surgery to "be more covincing" is.
 
Have you seen the movie? RDJ's character didn't exactly get off lightly for it.


you forgot to post the RDJ pic so we know what you are talking about.

I can't tell what is and isn't a joke now

Well yeah, the character was a satire, but you can't have it both ways.
This dude who dresses as Kanye also thinks its a joke and not racist.
The quality of a joke or a satire doesn't really matter when it comes to the question whether black facing is racist or not, because its subjective.
 
Well yeah, the character was a satire, but you can't have it both ways.
This dude who dresses as Kanye also thinks its a joke and not racist.
The quality of a joke or a satire doesn't really matter when it comes to the question whether black facing is racist or not, because its subjective.

HURRRR HURRRR I'M VAGUELY KANYE is not on the same level as a parody with any amount of tact.
 
Well yeah, the character was a satire, but you can't have it both ways.
This dude who dresses as Kanye also thinks its a joke and not racist.
The quality of a joke or a satire doesn't really matter when it comes to the question whether black facing is racist or not, because its subjective.

Does it really need to be explained what the difference is between a character playing someone in blackface (who was called out for it in the movie) and a guy actually in blackface? Is the Kanye guy trying to send some message or did he just see black skin as one of Kanye's defining features?
 

Klarion

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If the white face mask is not racist then why should a black face mask be racist? Aren't blacks and whites equal? Aren't all races equal?
 

Klarion

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You want to know what's really racist?

Saying ONLY black face mask is racist and that none other races-masks are. Now that's racism.

All races should be treated equally.
 
If the white face mask is not racist then why should a black face mask be racist? Aren't blacks and whites equal? Aren't all races equal?

Haha

Races are equal in a perfect world, yes. They are not equal in oppression. The use of white face, the purpose of white face, is not an equal use or purpose to the use of black face. When people dress as Tom Cruise, they don't paint their face white.

You want to know what's really racist?

Saying ONLY black face mask is racist and that none other races-masks are. Now that's racism.

All races should be treated equally.

Can you clarify why you take offense to white face?
 
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